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  • Posted on: Sun, 07/11/2010 - 5:27pm #19043
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    Mr.Knick 32
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    http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/articles/2010/07/11/20100711phoenix-suns-acquire-hedo-turkoglu-josh-childress.html

    The Suns are on the verge of acquiring forwards Hedo Turkoglu and Josh Childress, swiftly rebounding from the loss of Amar’e Stoudemire with two quality impact players.

    The Suns would send guard Leandro Barbosa to Toronto for Turkoglu, a 6-foot-10 Turkish forward with versatile skills to shoot from long range and be a playmaker.

    Turkoglu, 31, has played 10 NBA seasons with four teams and wanted out of Toronto after an unhappy first season there. He averaged 11.3 points last season on 40.9 percent shootings, his lowest scoring average and shooting percentage in six years. Two seasons ago, Turkoglu was the NBA Most Improved Player when he averaged 19.5 points, 5.7 rebounds and 5.6 assists with Orlando and followed it up with a 2008-09 season with averages of 16.8 points, 5.3 rebounds and 4.9 assists.

    Turkoglu could become the Suns’ starting power forward in place of Stoudemire, allowing new acquisition Hakim Warrick to come off the bench with Childress, Channing Frye, Jared Dudley and Goran Dragic.

    Phoenix would acquire Childress in a sign-and-trade deal with Atlanta, which still has his rights after he left the Hawks and the NBA to take a three-year, $20 million deal with the Greek team Olympiakos in 2008. Childress, 27, is able to leave Greece early and has agreed to a five-year, $30 million deal with the Suns. He is a 6-foot-8 swingman who averaged 11.1 points over four seasons with Atlanta, shooting 52.2 percent from the field and 36 percent on the 3-pointers.

    Phoenix will give up a future second-round pick to acquire Childress.

    The Suns would use some of their remaining $12.2 million trade exception to make both deals. They acquired the exception in the Stoudemire sign-and-trade Friday and used the first $4 million of it to do a sign-and-trade for Warrick.

    Turkoglu is represented by Lon Babby, who leagues sources have said will be the next leader of the Suns’ basketball operations. Until recently, Childress was represented by Babby’s agency before he switched to Octagon.

    Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/articles/2010/07/11/20100711phoenix-suns-acquire-hedo-turkoglu-josh-childress.html#ixzz0tQzyTiUM

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  • Posted on: Sun, 07/11/2010 - 5:35pm #352274
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    torontoraptors10
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    I think by the Raptors getting Barbosa, you can see Belinelli or Calderon being traded.

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  • Posted on: Sun, 07/11/2010 - 5:37pm #352276
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    Mr.Knick 32
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    It just happened.

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    • Posted on: Sun, 07/11/2010 - 5:40pm #352284
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      knicks82
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      If Turkeyglue can get back in shape its good for the Suns. But last year with Toronto he just looked a little heavier and was just the shell of who he was with the Magic.

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  • Posted on: Sun, 07/11/2010 - 5:43pm #352287
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    torontoraptors10
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    Do you have a link where it happened?

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  • Posted on: Sun, 07/11/2010 - 5:43pm #352288
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    Mr.Knick 32
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    Hedo is expected to play the 4 for the Suns.

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  • Posted on: Sun, 07/11/2010 - 5:45pm #352290
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    ilike.panochas
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    It seems like the Suns are just trying to “patch up” their team, I really dont see this team making the playoffs this year with Amare gone. Its time for them to rebuild and get young, instead their taking on bad contract such as Turkoglu.

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  • Posted on: Sun, 07/11/2010 - 5:46pm #352291
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    PaulsJayhawks
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    Now I would love to see the Raps go after Iggy to play the 3. Would have to take Brand but Im okay with that.

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  • Posted on: Sun, 07/11/2010 - 5:47pm #352293
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    Mr.Knick 32
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    So the Suns flipped Amare Stoudemire into

    Hedo
    Warrick
    Childress

    I don’t know how I feel about this.

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  • Posted on: Sun, 07/11/2010 - 5:48pm #352295
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    Where do you see that?

    As a raptors fan, I’m praying that it’s true.

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  • Posted on: Sun, 07/11/2010 - 5:49pm #352296
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    Platypus
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    not sure why they said powerforward but oh well

    Nash – Dragic
    J Rich – Childress
    Hill / Clark – Dudley
    Hedo – Warrick
    Lopez – Frye

    Toronto
    Calderon – Jack
    Weems – Barbosa
    Derozen – Belinelli
    Amir Johnson – Davis – Evans
    Bargnani – Alabi – Dorsey

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  • Posted on: Sun, 07/11/2010 - 5:50pm #352297
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    sheltwon3
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    Knicks should have tried to get Barbosa

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  • Posted on: Sun, 07/11/2010 - 5:51pm #352298
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    Platypus
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    googled and got this

    http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/38198855/ns/sports-player_news/

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  • Posted on: Sun, 07/11/2010 - 5:51pm #352299
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    Mr.Knick 32
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    The Suns have agreed to sign-and-trade with Atlanta for Josh Childress and will give him a five-year, $34 million contract, a source tells Y

    WojYahooNBA

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    • Posted on: Sun, 07/11/2010 - 5:53pm #352300
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      Sheltwon..Toney Douglas is Barbosa with better defense IMO. So I think the Knicks are fine without him.

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  • Posted on: Sun, 07/11/2010 - 5:57pm #352304
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    RUDEBOY_
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    The Suns need a post presence..Turkuglu is not a physical player..But it will be interesting to see if coach Gentry can take advantage of having 3 quality ballhandlers & good passers in the lineup Nash,Hill & Hedo at the same time…And i’ve never been a fan of Childress he has decent skils but was never able to put it all together..I think he’s overrated…

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  • Posted on: Sun, 07/11/2010 - 6:05pm #352306
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    thparadox
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    Goodbye Turkoglu, good riddance.

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  • Posted on: Sun, 07/11/2010 - 6:15pm #352311
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    sheltwon3
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    Knicks82 Toney Douglas does have a similiar game to Barbosa but he is not as good a Barbosa but I will say neither is Barbosa on a day to day basis.

    I get what you are saying but I am fan of Barbosa and he did not get many minutes in Phoenix the past few years and he is not going to a good situation in Toronto. Also Barbosa is a 2 guard and Knicks do not seem to plan on using douglas there. i guess those 2 extra inches and length make a difference.

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  • Posted on: Sun, 07/11/2010 - 6:17pm #352312
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    Suns will be alright, they play quick enough that they will just rely on depth and keeping the pace high. They may also not be done making moves.

    Al Jefferson is slow but he would not be a bad fit for Suns because they have Lopez who can run the floor. Lopez will become the man and if Suns keep Hedo, They have a lot of guys the can throw him lobs.

    Robin Lopez could possibly average more than his brother with Amare gone.

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  • Posted on: Sun, 07/11/2010 - 6:56pm #352334
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    Platypus
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    Brook > Robin always, barring injurys of course (knock on wood)

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  • Posted on: Sun, 07/11/2010 - 8:05pm #352357
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    bobbyb
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    I am sure he meant average better numbers, not be a better all round player

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  • Posted on: Sun, 07/11/2010 - 8:41pm #352366
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    I think this is a better place for Barbosa to play then Phoenix in terms of the style of his game and the development of Toronto’s offence in general. If Barbosa and Jack share minutes at the point it will give Sonny Weems and DeMar Derozan more opputunities to control the ball and st the offence.

    With Nash Barbosa rarely ever was given the oppurtunity to play PG.This trade hugely opens up the possibilities of trading Calderon. Barbosa thrives in the fastbreak (imagine Barbosa, Weems, Derozan, Johnson, and Bargnani running the fast break…sounds fun).

    Also Barbosa’s contract is only 2YR 14.7MIL compared to Turkoglu’s 4YR44MIL contract which really helps the Raptors.

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  • Posted on: Sun, 07/11/2010 - 9:01pm #352367
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    kacey
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    Best observation of the day:

    “Wow, Raptors are going to suck next year.”

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  • Posted on: Sun, 07/11/2010 - 9:05pm #352369
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    Is a great fit for Toronto. He is a big time upgrade at point, and I hope the Raptors hand him the keys and let him run. He is fun to watch, is a consistent 3 point shooter and is quick as hell. As far as Turkoglu trades are concerned, this had to be one of the best available, because adding Barbosa and Diaw by getting Turkoglu out of town is such an upgrade. Both of them can play multiple positions and Bryan Colangelo must have loved these guys from his days in Phoenix. Super versatile, and it gives the Raptors a much deeper team. Honestly, after this trade, the Raptors might not be as bad as everyone thinks they will be without Bosh. I still expect lottery, but maybe not worst team in the league, hopefully they still are bad enough to get a top 10 pick next year and hope for lottery magic.

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  • Posted on: Sun, 07/11/2010 - 11:43pm #352379
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    I no toronto will suck next year but at least they will be entertaining,

    Calderon
    Barbosa
    derozan
    Davis
    bargnani

    should make a run and gun team with no defence?

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  • Posted on: Mon, 07/12/2010 - 12:04am #352381
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    mamadou
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    OK, the blur is not a PG…AT ALL.
    Hidayet Turkoglu at the PF spot after mister Amar’e Stoudemire ?, in the west coast ? you gotta be kidding me.
    Traded again, or nash will be soon…good fit with dragic as a SF, atrocious at the PF wit nash.
    Los badass suns inside, frye-warrick-turkoglu, scary.

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  • Posted on: Mon, 07/12/2010 - 12:32am #352384
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    butidonthavemoney

    I really like this for the Suns, and I still think they will compete for a playoff spot next season…

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