What I think on the Wall/Turner issue.

Definite upgrade? So you’re definite the guy who hasn’t played a game in the NBA is better then a past allstar and six year veteran?

At no point did anyone believe Evans was a better prospect then Griffin, and in ’07 most saw Durant and Oden having equal potential…Portland obviously didn’t know Oden would repeatedly have knee issues and that Durant would eventually turn into a 30ppg guy.

Oden wasn’t just drafted on need, the guy is a 7’2 defensive monster. He just got hurt.

And nobody knew Tyreke was going to be this good man. Blake is hurt, it happens, I still think he will be an absolute beast in the league and the Clippers will have zero regrets.

Those are my thoughts.

I agree. I think the Nets will take Wall and trade Harris. That’s just how I see it. Harris was overrated to me from the jump, and I think that the Nets realize that Harris isn’t a winning PG even though he is good. I don’t think that most would like this scenario because of the risk, but I’m just speaking on what I think the Nets will do if they get the 1st pick based on some of what I’ve seen from the team and some of what I’ve seen/heard in the media. I think Wall will be a better pro than Devin Harris though, so I don’t really mind this at all.

that the Nets probably won’t win the lottery…..just cuz they are extra bad doesn’t mean they’re any less likely to win it than the last billion teams with the worst record…..

fastdan i agree… a definate up grade. that would mean wall will be a allstar in year one and put up better numbers then harris last year when he wasnt injured. not sure where he’s getting wall can play shooting guard thing from. anyone notice a theme with som eof the fans on here…. i THINK wall will be better. you dont trade a talent like harris just because you think wall is better. thats how people lose job’s. yeah it can work out that he is better but just to be sure it makes much better sense to keep both and see how it works unless you can get a player of equal value for harris which is very doubtful

they should be targeting Evan Turner right now and do whatever it takes to get him……

They can get some players in free agency that are better than Harris. If they trade Harris and draft Wall, while getting a guy(s) in free agency that are of at least as much worth as Harris or more. The Nets have a good deal of stuff going for them in terms of money and cap.

You can get value for Harris, but I think Wall is more valuable than Harris is so you take him if you get the pick..

Well I think they go with John Wall as taking him is the most favourable option. They should keep harris for at least some of the season, trade him at the deadline if you feel so inclined. Why trade harris in the off-season and risk wall having serious injury afterwards ala Oden and Griffin. Trading the pick just isnt worth it as everyone is going to play hardball and in the end they will get less than equal value for it. That being said i really wouldnt mind if they traded down slightly and drafted derrick favors or one of the other really good 4s this year as it is their only really glaring need. They have CDR and Terrance Williams at the wings, say whatever you want about harris he is still an all star point guard, and they have Lopez at C. Naturally this is all with the presumption that they recieve the #1 pick.

As for the Nets being able to get a better player than harris in this off-season. My thoughts on this are, the Nets are still in the running for the worst season in league history. What free agent wants to join that impressive squad? Money and cap space are nice but if nobody wants to play there its really more or less pointless to have. The only really good free agent i can see going there is Amare.

That being said I actually do like some of the pieces that the Nets have and they are in a very interesting position this off season, it just bothers me that everyone is diving headfirst into this get rid of harris as quickly as possible if we get john wall mindset.

I’m not worried about them in the least…..Harris as whatever, trade piece…..high pick to take likely another franchise player, or also a trade piece…..franchise center…..free agent loot to lure somebody to play in a brand new stadium in New York City…..can’t imagine they will be able to twist someones arm to do that……The nets are going to be seriously dangerous and soon…..Don’t forget they still aren’t out of the question about getting Lebron…..If I was Lebron that’s where I would wanna play….John Wall/Evan Turner, Brook Lopez, Devin Harris, and Lebron???? can anyone say domination….

so there are other players with allstar talent like harris out there iggy?…havent i been missing something?…everything you saying about wall is hoping what he will become. not knowing if he will get injured like a oden or just doesnt pan out early. a smart owner doesnt trade a sure thing for a maybe without making sure that maybe is worth it or cant work with the sure thing.

especially since turner has great potential as well. we all know what harris CAN do when he is healthy. theres no maybe or might about that. add turner to the mix with lopez and a free agent and things look pretty good

The nets have a 75% chance to NOT win the lottery…who remembers this time last year when everyday there was a new thread about how if Griffin/Thompson/Hawes front court could function together.

If NJ does win the lottery they will probably shop the pick and harris and choose whichever scenario gives them the better team, because it’s pretty obvious that two poor shooting/slashing/ball dominate point guards are not going to equal wins.

If they get someone to offer great value for harris, they will take it, and if someone is going to overpay for wall, they’ll trade the pick.

doubt very very very seriously that they shop the first pick… that doesnt happen

Lebron James, Amare Stoudemire, Carlos Boozer, and the rest of the elite players in the free agent class are better than Devin Harris. Devin Harris had 1 All-Star season and the rest of the elite guys have all been to multiple All-Star games, so yes, they are other players that are better than him.

What I’m saying is that if they get John Wall and get a free agent(s), which I’m sure they will, they will be able to trade Devin Harris and not have a bunch of problems. Harris isn’t exactly irreplaceable. It depends on if they get the 1st pick though. I can see them keeping Harris for a part of the season, but even he seem to know that if they get the 1st pick he’s on his way out.

they could even trade Harris for future first rounders really….that would probably be the smart thing to do…..

I could say this as the best situation for Brooklyn if they get the first pick…..if they can trade the pick inside the top 3 or 4, then they can do that for a future first rounder….odds are whoever it is won’t be that good and it will be a lottery pick next year…..then they will have the ability to make just a squad in the next 2 years……..their are going to be teams (Indiana comes to mind) that really want John Wall…..I’m sure the Warriors would also love to have him….pretty much anyone outside the Nets and Timberwolves…..so since their are many awesome players at the top of this draft, they might as well get one of them and another 1st rounder….

You know, its funny how people just get blinded by the draft and fall in love with the draft and its lure. (You think the bulls don’t regret trading their former rookie of the year in Elton Brand for the #2 pick in Tyson Chandler, who was suppose to be one of the pillars of the next “twin towers.” Not saying Wall is Chandler, but thats always a possibility when you trade proven guys. The Bulls til this day are trying to find a legit post player.) Devin Harris, when healthy, is an all star level guard in this league. How can you say Wall is better than him at this stage and has more value. I’m not saying Wall won’t be good or won’t even be an all star, but to just get rid of a proven player, who probably just in his prime yet in Harris, is comical. If you sell me on the idea that they haven’t done much winning with Harris at the helm and that you might as well take Wall, trade him and rebuild from scratch since you’re bad anyway, then I can accept that argument. But the notion that a guy who hasn’t touched an NBA court is better than NBA vets who’s proven in this league is just too much for me. And like I said in another post, Wall’s game is eerily similar to Harris’, and if you replace them, I don’t know how much more winning the Nets really do.

I think that you should trade Harris only if you’ll get another proven player at a position of need.

if anyone wins the lotto they need to take john wall. if the nets get him, play him at the 2 and see how it works. the nets cant get any worse with playing john wall and devin harris.

There is 75%chance the Nets won’t won the first pick,just saying

to take John Wall if you win the lottery, what if you’re a team like the Warriors, TWolves, New Orleans, Houston, etc, who already have a franchise PG, and you win the lottery? IMO Evan Turner can be justified as a #1 pick as well, it depends on what team wins the lottery. If my Warriors get it (yea right) i’d want Evan Turner over John Wall because we have Stephen Curry/Monta Ellis

exactly..you dont trade him without getting equal value nor without seeing how wall does first. which is what reports are saying out of jersey if they do get wall. im glad some of ya’ll arent gm’s ya’ll would trade a proven player just because you draft a potential good player. then if wall got hurt like blake or oden and the season sucked again guess who would be getting fired. some people just dont think

I agree that Turner could go first as well. I don’t see how you can define ‘equal value’ for a trade if you drafted Wall. What would equal value be for a guy who hasn’t played yet?

look i agree that it seems crazy to draft a point guard if you have one u believe in but out of all those teams only new orleans has a true stud point guard in chris paul. gs and minny have rookie pg who may or may not be franchise talents(i dont think flynn is and curry looks good and rubio, well who knows with him). im saying new orleans could use him at the 2(in my mind he is like a dwade), so could minny and gs and new jersey. only golden state is a question but we all know john wall could play sf in that system, lol. but seriously even if i was gs i would think about draftin john wall and trading monta or bringing him off the bench( this is assuming wall is drafted and looks like he can be a great player, and im not sayin trade monta right away, im saying that play all 3 guys and if john wall looks like a star trade monta mid season or in the off season next year). i think, assuming john wall will be as good as advertised, that a backcourt of stephen curry and john wall would be lethal. it wouldnt be the best defensive backcourt but it wouldnt be the worst because john wall can guard twos enough and curry can guard pgs well enough. and with such a young backcourt u can wait a year to see how they play together(gs isnt a playoff team with just john wall and what they have now). so in conclusion, in my opinion, every lotto team could use john wall somehow. thats all teams like new jersey, gs, minny, philly, houston, new orleans, etc.

if you have johnwall as youre sf you are gonna be in trouble big time. yeah it can work in gs but they will still be a bad team. they would get hammered by any of the top playoff teams. it would be alot easier for melo,bron, or any of the top teams sf then it would be for wall to check them. actually the thought isnt even reality thats more of a video game thought. not really a good idea for him to be a sg as well to be honest. the undersized sg doesnt seem to work if you tryna compete for a title. cp3 already said if they get the top pick he wants turner so my guess would be thats who they would draft

y do pll have the nets as the automatic 1st pick, r pll forgetting thts its a lottery. turner has more skill than wall, but wall has more valubility. heres y: 1) hes a PG 2.) he has more potential 3.) hes only a freshmen 4.) way more athletic.

john wall is to good to pass up, not sayin turner is not great, but passin up on wall is like wantin d-will instead of cp3. cp3 is better no matter wat

no one is saying they willhave the number one pick. everyone says if they get the pick. too some fans wall is too good to pass up but if you have watched or read comments made by news peopel who have talked to owners then you will know that wall isnt a lock for the number one pick. its not like lebron shaq duncan when they came out and everyone knew they were going number one. wall is a favorite but not a lock

Nobody thought evans should go over griffen. griffen was the sure fire 1 pick. Also the entire world thought the blazers should pick oden, don’t act like you wouldn’t have.

yeah we knew blake was going… i had durant going over oden so imnot sure who you addressed that too. i liked oden but i liked durant much much more. wasnt even close in my book and i said that over and over again before the draft. both were freshmen but durant straight dominated college. oden didnt have to go against future nba centers so i wasnt as sold on him

i gotta say as a nets fan ive been mulling this over since they went 0-18….yea i hear alot about john wall, how great of a pro hes gonna be, how hes a mini lebron all of this…i like the guy, think hes gonna be real good, but with all that talent on his team ive seen him put up lesser numbers than turner who is the main guy and he still gets the job done…with harris being hurt this year i think ppl forget how good he was last year, 21 and 7 as a pg and only 27 is damn near impossible to find….he gets to the hole at will….the one thing ill say about wall is he seems like a better leader than harris, but with turner your getting the same leadership abilities as wall…i see wall becoming a marbury type pg but i see turner becoming brandon roy, just a smooth all around talent for years to come where wall will be a flashy burn out type pg like francis and marbury

But the best comparison for John Wall is Derrick Rose……Mini-Lebron is pushin it….and if so that’s what Rose is too….

im not sure how wall seems like a better leader. when harris was in college he was just as good of a leader as wall was. i really cant say a college guy is a better leader then a nba player with all star talent because the talent they are playing against is worlds apart

Wall is more vocal and seems to have more of a knack for the big play than Harris has ever had. I think he’ll be a better leader than Devin Harris when it’s all said and done. It doesn’t really matter what level you play at to determine leadership.

thats not ture. harris was very vocal when he was with the badgers. he was a hell of a vocal leader on that team

and yeah it does matter. there are many leaders in college who werent leaders in the nba. there is a big deference when you play on different levels. thats like saying theres no difference from being a leader on a hs team compared to a college team

I don’t think Harris was the leader Wall was, even though he is a leader. He’s not the same leader as Wall. And yes there are players that were leaders, but if they weren’t talented enough to be in the NBA and John Wall obviously is, where is the relevance in that. A leader is a leader no matter what level you play at.

i remember harris..he was the leader wall was easily..not sure if you remember but i remember very well.didnt know who he was at the time but id watch his games because he was very talented and knew how to motivate his team. he would get in players face and get them motivated or hyped

if you have watched harris in college i really cant understand how you can say he wasnt the leader wall was

Just like this. He wasn’t the leader John Wall was. He’s never been as clutch, vocal, or “take-charge” as Wall. That’s one of Harris’ main flaws right now too. I’ve heard and seen Harris be called too nonchalant on the court more than 1 time.

Wall is athletic he should be more assertive on defense.

his defense fuels his transition game.

Harris is the better shooter in the halfcourt game though

I wonder what the Nets will do come draft day?

he’s never been as clutch or took over?..im pretty sure you never seen harris or dont remember him in college by that statement. that man used to take over games at will. its obvious you are going by harris in the nba and not in college because if you had seen him in college then you would clearly not be making those statements.

you make youre self look bad when you say things that are wayyy untrue ..go watch some tapes of harris in college and you will see how wrong you are. or read some articles about how nonclutch or not a leader he was

and harris took charge plenty of times in the nba last year when he wasnt hurt…why do you think he made the allstar team? i mean seriously

Everyone has taken over a few games and most have made a few clutch shots, but Wall is more of a leader than Devin Harris. It will come to head when Wall is in the NBA. He’s already shown it in college plenty of times.

Name: JNixon-Iggy9
Religion: John Wall

I’m starting to lean to Evan Turner for number one.

The thought of someone who can play the 1-2 and 3 is pretty enticing. I also think his overall ability could be pretty scary. At 21, he has years left to reach that Joe Johnson ceiling.

I would love to see Turner as a Net because now, you have 2 point forwards in Turner and Williams. I believe Devin Harris should be looked upon to be dealt if they decide to take Turner. Maybe for a legit PF.

I dont think it matters if they dont get that free agent wing

this is actuallymy fault. i forgot that you were probably 8 years old when harris was in college and dont remember how clutch he was while in college. he didnt have more clutch plays because he didnt have as many close games as wall where he had to be clutch. but the games that were close he showed how clutch he was. i recall harris like it was yesterday because of how he killed my terps and how clutch he was and unstoppable he was. no one could guard him because he was skilled and fast as hell. i cant take youre arguement seriously because of this. if you ever watch a bunch of games in harris when he was in college then come back and we can continue this because right nowyoure not really prepared to talk about how clutch harris was in college

Can we not talk about Devin Harris being clutch in college? He was overrated back then IMO.

Never got past the sweet 16 even though the NCAA was going through a weak point with players.

deal harris if they get turner?..lol..man alot of ya’ll guys are guys of the moment i see. just forget about how good harris is when he is healthy. seems like every young person i know has short term memory and just live in the moment. is just laughable like when a bunch of other young people on here were saying trade chris paul because of how well collins was playing

I wasn’t 8 lol. But OK. I personally feel that Wall will be better than Harris and provide more leadership than Harris will. Harris’ leadership has been questioned, but no one has ever thought to question Wall. As I said, we will see.

Knicksboy35- overrated back then?..yeah i just lost respect for youre basketball knowldge. let me guess you were proabably around 7-9 back then as well right?..so a player is overrate dif they never get past the sweet 16 in college?..man the leauge is full of overrated guys then

Fastest man with a basketball lol, guiness world record true story

Evan Turner, John Wall both are equal in my eyes.

one person creates mismatches with speed athleticism

one creates with big size and strength

who is better only time will tell, but age is on Wall’s side I guess…

id be happy with wall or turner but i think they should go the turner rout and trade yi and douglas-roberts for a solid pf if they dont end up singing a stoudemire…i like roberts but he clearly doesnt wanna be a net and yi isnt showing an consistency and hes been the starter for the last 2 seasons

Dude, I wasn’t 7-9.

Stating Facts my man. He COULD NOT get past the sweet 16 when the NCAA was going through a weak point. Am I wrong?

ummm iggy you cant compare wall’sleader ship not being questioned now…hes in college not the nba. no one questions james andersons scoring ability in college either but people question guys scoring in the nba. does that make anderson a better scorer then those guys in the nba?..no because anderson is doing it against college guys not nba guys. not comparable. just because someone does it in college doesnt mean they will be able to do it in the nba. thats like me saying psyco t is a better scorer then say hasleem last year because hes doing it in college.

not getting past the sweet 16 has what exactly to do with a player’sability?..that has more to do with a teams ability not a players…common sense

Leadership is leadership. Either your a leader or your not. People question whether a skill can translate because of different factors. It’s either your a leader or your not. It has nothing to do with what level you play at.

sop is ben wallace overrated because he couldnt get a scholarship to a high division one team?..beasley,durant arent as good because there team couldnt get to the final four?…so a players ability is based on how far they take there college team now?

Yea but you cannot lead your team…excuse me

You as a potential TOP 5 draft pick cannot lead your teams to more then 2 WINS? You said he was clutch in college….probably those regular season games but not when it was all on the line in the NCAA tournament.

sorry but thats no true iggy. ive had plenty of players on my aau team and highschool who were leaders but werent leaders when they got to college. and a couple who were leaders on my college team that werent leaders when they played pro

The fact that he can play the 1-2-3 makes him that much more valuable than Cousins or Wall who play one position AND it is a position where Minnesota and NJ are solid at…..in fact it is the only two places where neither team really needs a player at all….

so was durant also overrated as a college player?

You had plenty of leaders on your AAU team….but you can’t have plenty of leaders on a team. Something has to give. And they can’t be true leaders if their leadership doesn’t translate.

i dont think tim duncan got past the sweet 16 either…does tht make him overrated as a college player as well?

xavier henry
james anderson must be overrated college players as well

greg monroe
aminu..overrated as well?..none of those guys even made it to the sweet 16 this year

i played aau since 6th grade.every year we had a different leader not one team with a bunch of leaders

JJ Redick

Sweet 16= GOAT

Wall= transition game
Turner= halfcourt slow down game

just my opinion 😛

I never said that they weren’t clutch.

Put those guys in 2003 when alot of players left HS for the NBA? They would get past the sweet sixteen

there are a couple of leaders overseas who were leaders in college. the one that comes to mind is mateen clevees. theres not many college leaders who were more of a leader then he was. wall isnt on his level as a leader but cleeves wasnt the leader of a coupel of euro teams he played on or the sac kings. j.j reddick was the leader of the duke team he played one( coach k called him there leader and i cant say i argue with that) but i wouldnt call him the leader of the magic.

Knicksboy35 youre arguement makes zero sense. so if uk loses wall shouldnt go number one because he didnt get past the sweek 16?..monroe shouldnt go top 5 either huh?.

seriouslyyou cant believe a player is overrated just because they cant lead there team past the sweet 16

then you say that season was weak? lol…man if you are really the real guys who got booted then youre basketball knowldge has really suffered since you been gone.

and that guy said he was 15 at the time and the 2003-2004 season was 6 years ago

I can guarantee you Mateen Cleaves is a good leader overseas. He was a good leader in the NBA for his short time, even though he was one of the least talented players in the NBA. You don’t even necessarily have to be the best player on your team to be a leader. That’s why it translates so much easier than most other traits and skills.

Who said I rate players by how there leaders in college?

Come on Quincey- Get it together man, you’re slipping.

i was just kidding with john wall being the sf for gs. i like evan turner alot. i like devin harris alot. but if john wall is a mini lebron, or like d rose he has to be the pick. harris wasnt overrated in college but i kind of think he is now. he has avoided major injury but has had alot of little injuries and subtract last year he has had a very average career. and i think harris is a good leader but he just isnt that guy like john wall could be. no truly great leader lets their team be one of the worst teams ever. and you can only be as good a leader as your game lets u. ex. tim tebow is a leader but if he is third string qb will he be a leader? you have to produce to lead and harris doesnt produce enough. and as far as evan turner, the guy is great but i think he will play more of a jeff green role in the nba(note im not comparing their games only their roles) kind of a second option guy that does everything ala manu ginobili. and thats good but only if you have that true number one guy. wall looks like a sure fire number 1 guy. and u dont pass that up if u win the lotto. and i think we talk about the nets and the number one pick so much because we feel bad for them. a team that bad should just get the pick and have the lotto for the next 13 picks.

the leaders thing is directed at iggy knicks…youre comment about harris not taking his team past the sweet 16 means hes overrated makes no sense. there are plenty of guys who havent taken there teams past the sweet 16 so by youre logic they must have been overrated

and iggy i have friends who played with cleeves overseas and will tell you the leaders of his team were all euro guys so youre guarantee would be wrong. it doesnt always trasnlate. theres a chance that it can but its not a lock

How is it that you and your friends always end up out of some coincidence talking about the same stuff that we talk about on here? You and your friends really just had a conversation about whether Mateen Cleaves was the leader of his team overseas? Really?

theres a thing called a cell phone. i text people or yahoo chat when i chat with my friends. i could have easily just said this from the start or this post but none of my friends who have played were on yahoo or answered any of my text. i always text other peopel who have played ball who im cool with for a second opnion. i dont just go with what i think i like to see it from a different point of view…so thats how

theres many times ive talked on here and texted some friends or yahoo messaged some friends and they came back with a answer different from mine and ive said so..case in point

rondo over rose…most of them said rose

cousins isnt that good- most said they thought he was

and ive said this but for some reason you only point out or remember when they agree with me. selective memory maybe

Sounds good.

Please Quincey: Oh Smart One…

When have I said that I judged NBA players based on thier college careers? Read What I said in my original post….

you just said harris was overrated because he couldnt lead his team past the sweet 16. that means if a player cant lead there team past the sweet 16 then they must be overrated…you used his team success as a measurement of him being overrated. if you use it for him then obviously you have to use that standard for other players who didnt lead there team past the sweet 16 or it would show you are just looking for a excuse to say he’s overrated

He was overrated back then IMO.

Never got past the sweet 16 even though the NCAA was going through a weak point with players.

I said I didn’t believe Harris was a leader in college. He was overrated to me because in a time where he the NCAA lost alot of talent with the HS jump- he could not lead his team to 3 wins? IMO, that’s kinda weak.

I never said anything about his NBA game- So Eat It.

yeah you might wanna read the post…when did i even talk to you about his nba game?..if im not mistaken i wasnt talking to iggy….eat it..lol..really. you were a good what 9 10 when harris played in college and was probably at school or in bed during most of his games so excuse me if im not taking youre opinion about him beng overrated too seriously. harris was a beast in college point blank. thats not even a discussion

and now im curious…. if a highschool all american cant lead his team to a state title or the final 4 of his hs tournament does that make him overrated since the talent level is alot weaker there then in the ncaa tournamanet?

harris was a beast in college point blank.

A beast who couldn’t lead his team to 3 wins in the NCAA Tournament during a weak point in College Basketball.

What does HS matter?

Devin Harris couldn’t lead his team to wins in the NCAA Tournament. He got at the most, 2 wins per year. I don’t care about HS but he couldn’t win more then 3 games during a point where the NCAA was weak?

that has nothing to do with individual talent and alot to do with his teamnot being great genius. its a team game. no matter how good you are if you face a better team then you can be beat. thats common sense.and college basketball was not weak that year what are you talking about?????…because guys werent superstars in that draft you think it was weak?..a college season in which you were still in elementry school..lol..really

how you figure the ncaa was weak?…and dont give me the ” that draft class wasnt that good ” since we are talking about what a player did in college then and not in the nba

and i brought up hs because youre point is harris was overrated because he couldnt lead his team past the sweet 16 in a year you say college basketball was weak.

so if a all american cant lead his hs team past the same point in his his season against lesser competition then doesnt that mean that player is also overrated as a highschooler?

according to youre logic that would be yes

you just showed me you was not reading what I wrote.

Your calling him clutch. He didn’t lead his team to 3 wins.

Doesn’t matter to me. It’s because you like Devin Harris. If this was a player you disliked, you would have used some stupid shit as a reason not to like him. I don’t care.

The fact still remains: Devin Harris could not lead his team to the Elite Eight.

so wait…if a player doesnt lead his team past the sweet 16 ..he isnt clutch?…being clutch doesnt mean you can lead youre team ALL the time to wins. so that means every player who couldnt lead there team to a elight 8 that year was overrated?

so according to you being clutch doesnt have anythign to do with the player but it has to do with how far you can lead youre team. doesnt matter if you dont have a real good team or a team out of say the wcc because if you cant lead youre team past the sweet 16 that year then you are overrated and you arent clutch…..do you know how dumb that sounds

I meant overrated. He wasn’t that good IMO. The Fact still remains

Devin Harris could not lead his team to the Elite Eight.

I’m done. I know your going to make a completely new post about this so do your thing.

so because he couldnt lead his team to the elight 8 he was overrated…lol…you do know youre probably the only person in the whole world who has that opinion. i hate to say peopels opinions are wrong but youre is wrong..lol…go look at the other teams and players who didnt get past the sweet 16 that year. guess they were all overrated as well. yeah i cant rspong to you any more..you werent even old enough to even know much about basketball on top of not even being good enough to play hs basketball now so youre opinion holds zero weight

So you’re better then me because I don’t play HS basketball?

Alright man, I play basketball. By the time I got to 10th grade- I stopped playing ball because of my grades. That’s all. I’m not saying I could have gotten a D1 ride but I could handle my own on the court homeboy. I played with some of the toughest dudes. Growing up in Brooklyn, you couldn’t get on the court if your trash- I played. Once I moved upstate, my grades didn’t allow me to play. Could have been on a very good team this year but torn ligaments in my ankle. Sorry man.

If you made yourself feel better because you play ball overseas and I don’t, hope you got what you wanted. Now I see what you truly think, you think your cool because you play ball overseas and You come on the site so you can give us your lame scouting reports on your ” nephew” and other players in the DC area. It’s all good. Remind me everytime you make a post to call you a LOSER from now on.

Have a good day 🙂

Gimme a break, If your the Nets and you get the number one pick you take Wall and trade harris without hesitating…period….Are we REALLY arguing who will be better between Harris and Wall? Harris has been in the league for 5 yeears? he has been an allstar and what else? wall will be an all star in his second year and a superstar by his third…I agree with Igoudala on everything…harris more of a leader than Wall? Harris more clutch? Yea, sure..

Wuincey, you play overseas? They must have a TON of games and practices where you play

John Wall is a great talent, but here EVERYBODY goes falling in love with potential. POTENTIAL got the HAWKS a NOW developing SF in MARVIN WILLIAMS over two LEGIT STUD PGs (CHRIS PAUL AND DERON WILLIAMS) that they desperately needed. YES!! JOHN WALL IS GONNA BE A GREAT NBA PLAYER, BUT TO BLANTANTLY DISRESPECT DEVIN HARRIS AND QUESTIONING HIS ABILITIES AND LEADERSHIP IS A DAMN SHAME. CHECK HIS CREDENTAILS…WHY IS IT A QUESTION FROM FANS THAT HE WAS TRADED FOR JASON KIDD (HALL OF FAME PG)? BECAUSE THE GUY IS DAMN GOOD!!! I can recall TONY PARKER SAYING HE WAS GLAD DALLAS TRADED HIM TO NEW JERSEY BECAUSE HE WAS TIRED OF FACING SOMEONE JUST AS QUICK AS HIM ON THE FLOOR. I say NEW JERSEY just drafts TURNER or see how free agency pans out. BASICALLY, PEOPLE SAYING WALL IS BETTER THAN HARRIS…PRETTY MCUH RIGHT?!

thank you.. too many peopel try there best to discredit one players ability just because they are a fan of anothers. anyone who watched harris in college saw how good he was and far from overrated. anyone who watches him when he’s healthy sees he’s a allstar talent.

and no there is no real arguement now of who is better or will be better because wall hasnt played one game in the nba yet. no one knows the future so no one can say if he WILL be better or WONT be better.. the only thing we can say is ow good they are now and we cant even say how good wall is in the nba now because hes not there yet