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  • #12736
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    valentine

    seems like everyday i read a comparison of a hs or college guy to some nba star,allstar,former star who retired or hall of famer. do ya’ll realize that according to some of ya’ll for the next couple of years there will be about 10 hall of famers every year??. can ya’ll be a tad realistic?..how many guys in each draft class end up becoming allstars or stars?…not sure if ya’ll have short term memory but most dont. i hear alot of people say this or that guy doesnt look like someone you build youre team around so he shouldnt be drafted that high. how many players come out each year that end up becoming good enough to build a team around?…my guess is on average maybe one each year with some years being zero and some 2. then theres exceptions like the lebron draft. personally i think 98percent of the guys we talk about need to be compared to average -good nba players at this point. i agree most have potential but i do think we are raising the bar too high as far as what potential they have. history has shown that past players potential ends up not being as high as we thought

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  • #254493
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    tli232

    People wouldn’t be talking about the draft as much if all everyone compared people to were the average of RISK/ REWARD.

    For example, If I said… Gerald Green Will be Darius Miles (because balancing out risk/reward), people wouldn’t be as excited as if I said… “Gerald Green COULD be the Next TMAC!!!!”

    As for the actual comparisons

    I would actually put more value into a comparison where they talk about dribble heights, tendency, NOT ability to get in the lane, how hard they set screen, things like that than someone saying Player A will put up Vince Carter Numbers in a few years.

    That’s purely hypothetical. Shot release and stuff like that is NOT. 90% of players keep the same shot mechanics (maybe tweek them)

    Also, a lot of people give the BEST/WORST scenarios. That’s better, but I think people should just compare facets of player’s games such as

    Cole Aldrich:
    J looks like Camby’s
    Decent motor like Marc Gasol
    Great timing on defense like Pryzbilla (early years, he’s the boss at that right now)
    Throws pretty accurate outlet passes like Kevin Love

    you know…. stuff like that. I can read stats too, but I want people to actually watch a few games before making a comment about Player A and compare him to D-Wade.

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  • #254501
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    butidonthavemoney

    I like to watch player and just compare them with who has a similar game.

    To me comparisons aren’t predictions of sucess/failure.

    I compare Avery Bradley to Shannon Brown, because they have similar styles/tendencies, but I’m pretty sure he will be a better player than Brown.

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  • #254509
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    tli232

    Dude, I totally see where you’re coming from with the shannon Brown thing.

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  • #254519
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    tli232

    The Argument:
    “Oh College Player A is playing better than NBA Player B when he was at college and they’re the same size/ athleticism. That must mean College Player A will at least be as good as NBA player B.”

    That’s a bunch of crap.

    And yes, a lot of people on this site use that argument.

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  • #254528
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    butidonthavemoney

    Ever since I pwned Quincey in the “KamanVS.Boozer” topic, somebody has been taking my points… Suspicious…

    tli, I bet you we could find a fallacy in 95% of the arguments on this site. There is no way around it.

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  • #254555
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    quinceyhodges

    for one i talked to someone who’s at every game so you were obviously wrong about the boozer thing. 2 i could care less about points. i dont add nor subtract from people since ive made a new thing. so i obviously could care less about points. you should do the same

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  • #254561
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    butidonthavemoney

    Quincey doesn’t believe in numbers.

    You are hilarious.

    I owned you. If you have a rebuttal, than by all means. Being at the games proves absolutely nothing.

    Sorry if you were joking, it’s hard to tell through a computer screen.

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