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  • #1267742
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    I didn’t realize how much Onyeka Okongwu improved his shooting… he’s pretty good now – kept Atlanta in the game. Heat were just too much.

    So far Grizzlies having their way against the Mavericks. Figured as much though.

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  • #1267743
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    Kelal Ware had a huge impact on that game. On the other hand Zacharie Risacher was horrible. Just missing wide open shots. Ended up getting benched. Not what you want to see from your 1st overall pick.

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    • #1267744
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      Yeah, I was impressed with Ware. Usually am when he actually gets time. I think Risacher is better than what he displayed tonight.

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  • #1267745
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    Its pretty crazy how much Zach Edey has increased his mobility in the past 2 or 3 years. He does not look like a liability on the floor at all. Very happy with how he has developed I’ve been watching him play for a long time now. Its sad that the Raptors traded their pick for Jakob Poeltl thatended up being #8 Rob Dillingham one pick ahead of Zach Edey.

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    • #1267746
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      Yes, Edey is much better than the version that pushed around Wooden Award winner Luke Garza. He was decent then but was easily exposed. The year before he got drafted he was still easily exposed, but not as much… he’s in great shape now.

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  • #1267747
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    Memphis has all but won this game… AD looks great though and he’ll be forever the guy that got there by giving up Luka… it’s too bad, he’s doing everything he can to win – Dallas just doesn’t have Luka or pieces to go with AD.

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  • #1267753
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    Edey to Raptors with the 8th pick last year would have been a no brainer getting the Canadian guy would have been a good marketing ploy and he’d have been a perfect fit. Playing behind Poeltl and then assuming starting role in due course.

    Ware too has had a very solid rookie year, no doubt being with the Heat and their excellent set up has helped him develop.

    AD had an excellent game for Dallas but Memphis had more depth.

    NBA Draft Room ran a simulation mock this week and had Dallas ending up at 2nd and getting Harper. They probably need some lottery luck to get into the top 4 to be relevant again.

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  • #1267760
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    Indiana just destroyed Milwaukee in game 1 here… Indiana’s front court, balance and depth just too much today…

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  • #1267761
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    Vintage James Harden tonight. Buzzer beater three to end the 1st quarter with 15.

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  • #1267762
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    Kris Dunn has had a huge impact on the defensive end shutting down Jamal Murray and offering resistance to Jokic when they switch. On the offensive end however he’s had some great oppurtunities as a spot up shooter, as a slasher and as a cutter on some pretty tic tac toe passes which he has not been able to consistently convert on. If he were this game would be a blow out. The stats show a different story but hes had a few times where he refused to shoot op[en shots or try to finish at the rim through traffic.

    I see VJ Edgecom,be as a similar playstyle. His worst case scenerio is a more athletic Dunn. If he can do what Dunn does defensively and just be able to convert as a high level role player to me thats worth a top 5 pick. The NBA does not have many defensive playmakers at the guard position and even less that are not a liability offensively.

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  • #1267764
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    Going down to the wire here… Russell Westbrook of all people to hit that 3!

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  • #1267765
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    Looks like we’re going to OT

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  • #1267766
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    What a game. This might be one of the best series all year. I’m gonna try to watch every game.

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  • #1267767
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    Clippers cant keep them off the glass! Westbrook gets a tip on every loose ball he’s still amazing.

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  • #1267768
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    Wow, that was a barnburner!

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  • #1267769
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    I thought the Pistons had the Knicks for a minute… not so much now.

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  • #1267770
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    Damn… can’t even watch the Lakers tonight… awful! They’re playing like garbage.

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  • #1267771
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    The Timberwolves are very impressive vs Lakers. Denver vs Clippers could be a great series.

    The Thunder are absolutely slaughtering Memphis.

    GSW vs Houston is the series I’m looking forward to the most as despite GSW having to come via the play in if Steph gets his shooting sneakers on and Playoff Jimmy turns up I think they can shock Houston.

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  • #1267772
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    Seriously, Memphis is in danger of losing by 50!!!

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  • #1267773
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    I hope Orlando makes a game of the next one.

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  • #1267815
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    Lebron’s playing like a 35 year old tonight.

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  • #1267822
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    Orlando’s frontcourt is probably as good as the Celtics, but the Celtics backcourt is as good as their frontcourt too. It’s going to be tough to beat Boston.

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  • #1267824
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    Oh yeah and Celtics are banged up, maybe Orlando steals one.

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  • #1267829
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    Boston looks like they’re going to take this one… White/Brown/Pritchard too much backcourt.

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  • #1267852
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    Damn, Ja Morant fell pretty hard and OKC might actually come back and win this one… they were down a lot too.

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  • #1267853
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    OKC with the comeback. That one stinks. The Grizzlies have had some real embarassing playoff losses during the Morant era.

    Clippers win their first home game. Aaron Gordon maybe injured. Nuggets coach has no impact on his team and seems noticably frustrated.

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  • #1267879
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    Gary Trent Jnr and Giannis are pretty much saving the Bucks’ play off hopes on their own.

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    • #1267880
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      I think Indiana will get them sooner or later…

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  • #1267881
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    There’s been a good game here and there, but there’s been too many blow outs it seems this playoff year. What’s going on?

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  • #1267889
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    The Cavs are really impressing me given the Heat you’d feel will always battle hard with their play off pedigree.

    The Thunder are through but could easily have lost both games if Memphis if Ja hadn’t got injured. I’ll be interested to see how they go against the more battle hardened Clippers or Nuggets.

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    • #1267890
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      Tbh, I think OKC got a little bored with Memphis and let their guard down. The statement game was a 51 point win. Then they let go a little and still won by a lot. Then the other games happened.

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  • #1267893
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    What a game. Denver beats the Clippers on a Gordon buzzer beater dunk with 0.01 seconds on the clock. Clippers cqame back down by 22. If LAC took a 3-1 lead in the series Denver probably wouldn’t be able to come back. This series has been fantastic.

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    • #1267894
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      You got the Clippers winning it all… at least in Playoff Pick em’… That’s risky with this as the first series. Clippers have the talent though and Ivica is a stud. He’s improved every year and it’s showed this game… too bad he’s against Joker.

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  • #1267904
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    Knicks up on the Pistons 3-1…

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  • #1267907
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    Yeah the Clippers ended the season on fire. I forget the actual record but they were the best team the last two months and Kawhi was looking great. Denver on the other hand has been going through things all year. I actually think these two teams are probably my favorites to win it all. I’ll never pick Boston to win it all… I dont trust Cleveland to beat Boston. I dont think OKC is experienced enough, they are just so young. Lakers just have no Center, T-Wolves actually look good as well now that the playoffs have started I wouldnt be shocked if they won the West.

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    • #1267911
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      Lakers are in trouble… now down 1-3.

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  • #1267912
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    T-Wolves could be dark horses they have size advantage over GSW but maybe not Houston. I’d take OKC to match up well against T-Wolves if it was the conference final.

    I just think GSW will go deep. Boston vs Knicks could be a top series too.

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    • #1267914
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      The way Indy and Cleveland have been playing could be a good one as well.

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  • #1267920
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    I was really hoping Orlando would win this one and make it a series.

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  • #1267921
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    Indiana is just blowing out Milwaukee… I’m not too surprised though, the Bucks aren’t healthy and the Pacers are clicking.

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  • #1267926
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    Siakam trade has worked out well for the Pacers.

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  • #1267928
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    I think the second round will be better games than the first so far.

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  • #1267930
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    Dame has done his left Achilles tendon in and could miss a chunk of next season too. He turns 35 this summer so would be well into his 36th year before he returns.

    The Bucks have a number of veterans with player options for next season too so how their future looks I don’t know.

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    • #1267931
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      Yeah, it’s unfortunate… as a result, it’s possible Giannis gets traded. I think his window for another title is short and the Bucks are a ways to go…. I know the Joker needs some help. Not sure if both those guys could play together though, Giannis might have to be the guy. I’m not sure if his mind set is still that he has to be THE reason for the title or not guy anymore… but teaming up with someone would/could be a great move if it were to pan out… Wonder who would be players in pushing the chips for a Giannis trade?

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      • #1267933
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        Toronto’s gonna get Giannis if he goes on the block.

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        • #1267936
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          That would be awesome if they did, what package you think they’d offer?

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          • #1267941
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            I don’t know. It would suck to give up Scottie but probably him and picks. Or something similar to the Derozan/Leonard trade. Scottie, 2026 pick and Grady Dick. I dont think they will give them a 10 1st round picks package thats just not Toronto’s style.

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  • #1267934
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    Giannis is only just 30 and we see other guys being elite into their mid 30’s (LBJ is a freak so I’ll not expect Giannis to be that elite at 40). Giannis has a title so doesn’t need to chase one.

    If you look at teams with assets then Brooklyn, Spurs, Utah, Houston and OKC jump out. If OKC win this year I don’t see them going all in for him. Houston might as they have been linked with KD and Giannis has 6 years on him. Brooklyn is a big market and have assets and cap room. They would ideally need a good run of the draft balls and another top free agent to become a contender with Giannis.

    The Spurs have the picks and also Wemby. Utah have no real pieces but a load of draft picks and Danny Ainge to make deals.

    Toronto is interesting and have assets. If teams miss out on Flagg could they make an offer and trade for Giannis? If the Bucks want to rebuild getting an Ace, Tre, VJ etc could be tempting?

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    • #1267937
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      Giannis may have a title, but he’s a competitor that wants to be the best in the world and win as many chips as possible. At least that’s what it seemed last summer.

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  • #1267938
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    Giannis has two year’s guaranteed on his current deal so his trade value won’t get any higher on this deal. I don’t know when he could next extend as that contract will be a very important one as it could pretty much take him to the end of his career.

    The Bucks are pretty much out of draft picks either traded away or rights to swap for the next 5 years so to rebuild around Giannis will be very hard and trading him and tanking won’t be easy. But the risk is he walks in two years time and they get nothing back.

    Back to the play offs and the Cavs are totally destroying the Heat. Pat Riley might be making moves this summer.

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  • #1267939
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    What a tragedy. 82 to 38 right now Cavs vs Heat. They need to trade everyone.

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    • #1267942
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      Yeah, just stopped watching and found out Cedric Coward committed to Duke… and he’s testing the waters… win/win situation for him. If he’s a lottery pick, he’ll likely enter – if not, he’ll win a chip a Duke likely with their lineup…

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      • #1267943
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        Wow thats a crazy fit. Perfect fit. Dukes gonna be tough to beat. Houston also looks good though. What other teams would be up there. Maybe Creighton if it all works out? Louisville.

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        • #1267944
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          Virginia Tech, Iowa, BYU, St. John’s amongst some of the best

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  • #1267940
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    I dont see them trading Giannis and I dont see Giannis demanding a trade but I doubt he resigns and he’lll probably be pretty open about it. Theres some pretty crazy articles about him that recently released.

    Sam Amick:

    . I asked Giannis a very blunt question: “Hey, what happens if it just doesn’t work this year?” And he did something kind of wild—he grabbed a nearby staff member by the shoulders. I didn’t even know the guy. Had no idea what his job was. But Giannis grabs him and says: “Hey, if we lose this year, do you think you get fired?” Giannis literally said: “You think you get fired?” And the staffer was like, “Yeah, maybe.”

    Now that John Horst has a new contract, I can share this part: I wrote in a story that Giannis alluded to the GM. Well, the “alluded” part was this—he literally looked at John, looked at me, and said: “Sam, if we don’t win…” (Then he drew his finger across his throat.) Yeah, and just to be clear—they have a good relationship. Giannis was being playful

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  • #1267945
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    It’s really 116-68 in a playoff game with the Cavs ahead of the Heat right??? Smh! Are we sleeping on the Cavs or are the Heat just terrible? I can’t figure it out, but 4-0 seems like the Heat gave up…

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  • #1267946
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    The Cavs won 64 games so it’s no fluke. Just that a lot of us have the thought Boston has more experience and might edge Eastern Conference.

    The Heat had a losing season and traded Playoff Jimmy so aren’t the team they were however good their coaching and front office are.

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    • #1267947
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      true, but this is awful

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  • #1267948
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    I watched the game. The Heat gave up and the Cavs never let up.

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  • #1267950
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    Im just gonna say it. Draymond Green is one of the best players in the world when his shot is falling. Hes one of the alltime greats and I think he will only be truly appreciated when he retires. Guy just makes winning plays.

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  • #1267952
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    I love the physicality in these games but the refs gotta stop reviewing every play and skirmish and just realize this is gonna be a physical series. Keep the game moving.

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  • #1267953
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    Going down to the last minute here…

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  • #1267954
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    Draymond really came through though, looks like GSW take this one…

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  • #1267955
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    Gotta love Fred having the big night but Houstons young players just arent equipped for this level of ball. Esp3ecially Jalen Green and Jabari Smith. They just make zero IQ plays all game well, feeding the GSW vets.

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    • #1267956
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      yeah they looked shaken up… but then they need the reps for experience.

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  • #1267957
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    Draymond and play off Jimmy came up big for GSW last night. I thought Houston might have used their bench depth a bit more though. Jeff Green has over 1.100 games behind him if you need an experienced head he jumps out at me. Cam Whitmore also not seeing any time.

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  • #1267968
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    I dont think I’ve ever wanted the Pacers to win more than right now.

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  • #1267969
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    Oh no… That was bad. Stay tuned folks theres gonna be some questions for Giannis.

    After a phenomenal game by Gary Trent incl;uding 12 points in OT he bobbles the ball out of bounds and Indiana wins the game. Milwaukee blew two leads and kept letting Haliburton get to the rim. The two teams almost started fighting at the end of the game as well.

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  • #1267979
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    Go Pistons!!! I thought the Knicks had them… We might have a series!

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  • #1267986
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    Jamal Murray is a “G”! Between him and Westbrook, they just cooked the Clippers. MPJ had some key shots.

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  • #1267991
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    Maybe the Rockets can keep this up… it’s like the Warriors woke up a sleeping giant that got mad!

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  • #1267994
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    The Warriors cannot last a full playoff run let alone a series. Even if they get by Houston it seems like the mileage will catch up to them. Everyone of those guys is injured. Stephs thumb, Butler is limping, Back when Toronto beat GSW people said we got lucky because they couldnt get healthy…well they still cant stay healthy.

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  • #1267997
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    Lakers are in trouble early… if they don’t get it this year then next year, they will have played a little bit together and will have a better chance in theory, but their window with this team isn’t long… and OKC and HOU are only going to get better in the West.

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  • #1267998
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    I don’t think this needs its own post but who would you guys rather have. Luka or Edwards?

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    • #1268000
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      That’s a tough one… I LIKE Edwards better, Luka I think IS better. The Lakers just haven’t played long enough together to click. Also ANT has that dawg in him and Luka plays too much international ball to the point he never gets a break – and when he does, he really does! I guess if this were a draft I’d have to take Luka. But I just like ANT better. I’m also a big sucker for defense. ANT plays better on that end.

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  • #1268002
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    I’d take Luka over Anthony Edwards at their current peaks. The Lakers maybe have one more year with LBJ and he has a final run but they then rebuild around Luka.

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  • #1268005
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    Lakers ousted by the Wolves was a burner last night…

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    2 games 6 matches tonight!!! Should be great…!!!

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  • #1268011
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    I like this Pistons team I hope they come back. I’m just a big fan of the Thompson twins in general and enjoy watching Cade play the game.

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    • #1268012
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      Agree with everything you said and I’m a fan of Duren too. Beasley’s had a good first half…

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    Duren just outplayed KAT who just fouled out!!! This is going to be a great finish!!!

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  • #1268014
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    Knicks ball 20 seconds left tie game!

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    Cold.

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  • #1268016
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    Well thats it for Detroit. Great job by the Detroit fans in this series and also by cheering their team despite the loss. This young Pistons team outplayed their talent level for sure.

    Great job by Duren tonight. 9/10 FT’s and as Norrin said fouled KAT out of the game.

    But man… Jalen Brunson would not be denied. I remember alot of people questioned the Knicks signing him. Some people thought it was a bad move for the Knicks and a bad move for him. But I yhad him on my fantasy team the year before so I knew he was ready for a larger role and liked the move. I didn’t think it would look like this.

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      Brunson’s a beast!

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    This Rockets/Warriors game is chippy – should be a great finish.

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  • #1268032
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    Rockets extend the series is looks like… FVV and Sengun ballin’ out

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  • #1268034
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    Jalen Brunson probably has the most team friendly contract in the NBA. Detroit will come back stronger next year. I always smile when Lakers come up short as their entitled fans start moaning.

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    • #1268035
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      I’m not that bad… c’mon… the Lakers just weren’t together long enough to win a tough team like the T’Wolves. Lol! This Clippers/Nuggets game is a good start…

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  • #1268036
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    You are sound Norrin but in lots of sports the very top teams almost expect success. The Lakers have Luka who is a top 10 NBA player as their building point and I’m thinking LBJ opts in for next season too.

    Nuggets had a huge 2nd quarter and worryingly for Clippers it is a real team effort. Jokic for example hasn’t done it on his own.

    How come the Rockets and GSW series always seems a day or so behind the other ones?

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  • #1268037
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    Aaron Gordon might be the most underrated player in the NBA.

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    • #1268039
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      As soon as the Lakers declined the trade for Mark Williams they were giving up on the season. The medical came after the deadline and I think it was a bad decision. They should have gambled. They probably could have instead asked for the league to discipline the Hornets and recieved an extra 1st round pick as compensation. An article came out toiday saying this.

      [McMenamin]

      “Only Williams never suited up for L.A. He failed the team’s physical examination, and the Lakers “just couldn’t live with what they saw,” a source with knowledge of the subject told ESPN.”

      Also yes. Gordon is one of the leagues most underrated players and might be the best non allstar in the league. He’s improved his game so much from just being an athlete coming into the league.

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  • #1268038
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    Aaron never became the star people had hoped being a top 4 pick but he has had a rock solid career, has an NBA title, has made a stack of money and is such a good team player. He can certainly step up and play the major minutes in the play offs.

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  • #1268040
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    My dumbass thought the game was starting at 9:00. Who wouldve thought this wouldve been a blowout. Watch out for the Nuggets.

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    • #1268041
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      This run the Nuggets have been on is incredible… it was a close game at half.

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    On a side note have you guys seens Hassan Whiteside’s Peurto Rico highlights? He’s built like Shaq right now. His whole upper body looks like Zion Williamson its ridiculous. Lakers should have signed this guy before the postseason I’m pretty confident he could have at least helped them.

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    I think Hassan only started playing again in the last month or so. If he is available in the summer I could see team’s looking at him.

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    Hassan should have never left… he got hosed.

    Warriors/Rockets going to be great!

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    Ty Jerome’s doing fine, but the Cavs are sure missing Garland this game.

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    We mentioned Gordon as the leagues most underrted player. Myles Turner is defenitely in that conversation as well. He’s never even been on an All Defensive team. This Indiana team would be lost without him.

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      Wow, didn’t realize he’s never even been on an All-Defensive Team… that seems ludacris.

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    Jarrett Allen dunks all over Turner. Ouch.

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    Nesmith is also underrated. He had a 50/40/90 season this year.

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      and he came up with some defensive plays tonight too.

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    Buddy Hield is shooting like peak Steph tonight. GSW up by about 10 nearing HT and Steph hasn’t got a point yet. If Steph finds his scoring boots then Houston could be in real trouble.

    Great win by the Pacers at the Cavs too.

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    Hield gone crazy so far!

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    Warriors really had to win this game. They basically paid a quarter billion dollars for Jimmy Butler.

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    Warriors came through but will they have the size to match Gobert and Randle etc. The Warriors would still have had to pay Wiggins for another couple of seasons. They gave Steph the extra year in 26/27 almost as a thank you. If they hadn’t done that then they wouldn’t have needed to have extended play off Jimmy and could have had this season and next with the duo, With an option to extend if things went well.

    GSW make a load of money so can easily pay the luxury tax but the extra games all help.

    Houston have fallen victim to Steph and GSW several times in the past decade. They are still a young team but there has been talk they might look for another proven star player. FVV is a quality player but he has a huge team option which could be a golden ticket trading chip along with one young player and some future picks they have.

    I don’t expect a knee jerk reaction from Houston as it was their first time in the playoffs in 5 seasons and they are still a young team. If they got lucky in this year’s draft lottery it opens up even more options, if they stay where they are they still have options and a trade could possibly happen.

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      I think the only issue with Houston is they’re too young and just don’t have the playoff experience on their team… that being said, they should still trade FVV and Dillon Brooks if they can. Their stocks are high and the only way to get your good young players better is through reps. The Rockets could sell high right now on FVV and Brooks after this last season. The reality is their core is very good when given quality minutes and not garbage minutes. The young core is very solid… and quite frankly, although I know it won’t happen – I hope Houston gets the #1 pick in the draft and OKC gets Philly’s pick as the 7th pick… That would be justice to teams that are earning their spots instead of trusting the process… Anyways, Houston’s young core is already deep. Amen Thompson, Reed Sheppard/Jalen Green/Cam Whitmore/Tari Eason/Jabari Smith/ Alperen Sengun/2025 1st round pick is already very solid seemingly for now and years to come. In fact, they’re built similar to OKC but to a few years behind degree. Growing pains are going to happen with a young team, but it’s how you build your team to sustain greatness. If they grab say a Giannis in a trade, it would be foolish imo to give up your future for him. Giannis would take a year to gel and then would probably give Houston a chip to brag about. Or maybe not. But not giving up your future for him enables a team to build that dynasty status in theory or at least a team you can count on being a contender for the long haul. Anyways, that’s enough rant about the Rockets…
      GSW on the other hand have that experience and are built for a team like the Rockets. Perhaps even a team like the T’Wolves… that should be a great series actually. The Warriors are tough and with the addition to Jimmy Butler, a former T’Wolve at one point, they are as good as maybe any team in the league. I say they have a sucker puncher’s chance at winning the whole thing. Unlike the Rockets – it’s not sustainable… I’d still bet on OKC to win it, but wouldn’t be surprised if the GSW pulled that off. A T’Wolves series is interesting. If the Warriors dominate the perimeter and pull-out Gobert, this series could go the Warriors way.
      With the other side of the West, the Nuggets key players have been on fire and are also capable of running the table like the Warriors. They have the best player in the world and everyone is clicking. The issue is they’re playing OKC who can platoon to anyone that’s hot. They’re deeply stacked and probably have the other best player in the world. It feels like OKC’s time though to me.
      Out in the East, Ty Jerome – especially without Garland should have played more minutes. Even if his shot wasn’t falling like it normally does, he effects the game in too many ways for him to be off the court without the star backcourt at full strength. Jarrett Allen has to play better than he did too. I like Indiana’s rotations. The Nesmith/Mathurin combination is a sneaky good wing position for the Pacers. I thought Siakam did a good job considering who he’s been up against. He showed some big hear last game…
      New York has the pieces and chemistry to do some damage, but will they beat Boston? Not much teams have had success doing so recently… we’ll see…

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    Houston could keep their core together and possibly move FVV and some of the picks they hold. With talk of KD being moved could Houston take a couple of years of him and send FVV and maybe a pick or two they have from Phoenix.

    It will be interesting to see where the Brooklyn and Phoenix draft picks end up after the lottery to see if the Rockets did the right deal with the Nets.

    Boston vs Knicks could be a really good series and Thibs will make them real hard old school play off games. I just feel that Boston will get through though.

    DSW were a borderline play in team before Jimmy Butler trade so it has worked out this season and its keeping Steph interested. They can maybe add a veteran FA or two who wants to be on a contender and try for one more run.

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      That’s the thing – there’s no reason for Houston to try to push in chips for a KD if they could. Their future I think would hold more ground than an aging star. I can see maybe Giannis only because he can maybe give you 4 to 5 great years still. KD I’m not sold does. Not on a full season star level like the Rockets would need. I’d rather have Tari Eason and Jabari Smith tbh if I’m Houston and those picks… I’m not sure KD gives them a chip. Giannis is probable though, but to keep the whole core intact and get a young stud would be another thing. I think the Bucks might ask too much for Giannis to build a dynasty… and that should be the goal. I’d almost take on a bad contract and receive picks before I’d take KD… but Giannis might be a candidate of choice or even someone younger with a healthy contract. It might take 3 teams or more to get a deal involving FVV/Brooks, but it would be worth seeking out. I might risk going after Zion – that would be the biggest risk probably though. I don’t think I’d even consider Ja though just an FYI.

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    You guys keep calling for them to trade Fred but this team wouldve gotten swept if he didnt play. They wouldnt have even made the postseason without him they were 10W-12L in the games he didnt play. It’s not all about counting stats and analytics, there were plenty of times this series where Fred had to rally his team to stop a run or scream at his guys on the bench and instruct them.

    The peice they need to dangle is Jalen Green. He was absurdly bad and his extension kicks in next year which will pay him $33 mil. Jabari Smith has good counting stats but he also looked like a fish out of water all season and was not able to deal with the physicality. With Green, Smith, Sheppard, Whitmore and plenty of picks to sweeten the pot they have plenty to offer to improve their team.

    However I don’t think the awnser is to try and bring in the 1st “superstar” that becomes available. I mean if you can reasonably bring in a player like Giannis or Devin Booker then great but realistically I feel if you got what GSW got out of Hield, what DET got out of Beasley or what MIL got out of Trent and replaced Jalen Green that probably would have wonthem the series. Try to find yourself a KCP or Aaron Gordon, just steady and reliable player willing to fit into a role.

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      If I were to trade any of the young core it would be Green before anyone else – good point.

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    With FVV it is just that huge team option that can fund the bulk of any salaries in trades and if a team receiving him is in tank mode they just refuse the option. Otherwise there is no reason for Houston to trade him, he is only about 31 years old, has relatively few miles on the clock and has title winning experience.

    Reed Shepherd does need to see more playing time I feel. Jabari Smith is the interesting guy as far as trades go as he is eligible for his 2nd contract this summer so how does that deal look?

    Eason is also extension eligible and Jalen and Sengun’s new deals kick in.

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      Sheppard and Whitmore would benefit with more playing time. It wouldn’t work out any better than FVV or Dillon Brooks though until the long run.

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    Would Stephon Castle have possibly been a better fit for Houston I wonder?

    There were the question marks about his shooting but his intangibles and all round game could well have seen him get many more minutes than Reed got or is Stephon too similar to Amen Thompson?

    Reed playing behind CP3 and learning from wouldn’t have done him any harm.

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      Reed is a fine fit and Stephon would have been too close to Amen.

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      If Houston picked Castle and Spurs picked Sheppard, Reed would be ROY.

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    Stephon wouldve been benched. He’s a great talent but the Spurs gave him a very long leash. Castle started the season off very slowly like 35% FG and 25% 3pt the first 20 games or so. I missed our Fantasy League Draft and ended up with him through the autodraft and tried to trade him to Norrin 20 times throughout the season he never bit. Castle would not have gotten that same patience from Houston Udoka and also FVV dont have time for that.

    That being said even if Sheppard or Castle were able to average 20 and 10 next year your not gonna be able to replace the experience FVV has. 60 playoff games and a championship theres only a handful of guards in the league with that resume. His impact can’t be replaced by a rookie. Look at what happened to all the young players in the playoffs other than a handful of them, they all broke.

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    Man I hate the Celtics.

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    Looks like they’re down on the Knicks!!!

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    Denver’s gonna smoke OKC. Thunder’s just too young imo. We will see if they are the exception but I just don’t think you can win in the NBA without experience. Prove me wrong but thats why the Sam Presti model will never work, at some point you gotta pay these guys to keep them together and thats most likely going to be the same time it takes for them tyo have enough experience to win it all.

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      I got this feeling that OKC is the team to beat this year… they’re that good… an exception to the rule…

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    I think the Nuggets are gonna win this game.

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    • #1268109
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      I don’t know how but you called this one good!!!

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    lol

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      frickin’ Chet… he’ll bounce back though, I still think OKC has the series…

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    They are too young. Holmgren lost composure at the end of the game and missed his free throws. He was shooting 86% this postseason but he missed both. I’m not gonna lie I could see it in Chet’s eyes all game, especially when Jokic got that foul for pushing him on the fastbreak and they benched Chet afterwords. The moments just too big for them right now and this Denver teams been there and done that.

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      You’re right about Chet – this game… We’ll see… in a series I think OKC has so much depth combined with their stars that they are built for a long haul. That and EVERYONE on OKC plays tough defense… I’ll say this though, I think the winner of this series takes the chip. I’m shocked but not surprised that Denver stole the first. They might have awoken a sleeping giant though. Experience really does help and is not to be underestimated, but this OKC team is special. Either way though, they’re probably the team that should at least try to trade for Giannis.

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    You notice how this Championship level competitors start throwing their weight around when things arent going their way. Draymond Green took Jalen Green out of the series by doing it to Houston. Jokic does the same shit. Hes all done it all season too. He broke Scottie Barnes entire face this year when Barnes was talking trash. I didnt watch all 82 Denver games but Im sure theres more cases. He took Chet out of the game mentally. He took Dort out with that elbow. They found a way to break them. Hes a tough guy to play against because you have to guard him, hes the best player in the world and you also gotta be careful he doesnt literally break your bones when you actually find a way to bug him.

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      Yeah, the Joker knows when to play dirty and also, he’s a good actor and draws fouls almost as good as Divac used to. It helps that he’s very skilled and very huge too. He’s a beast! During the summer against USA, he single handedly kept that game competitive.

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    Its almost a dark art how to disrupt a game and stay on the court. The likes of Draymond and going back a bit further Bruce Bowen and the Detroit 2004 team were masters of this. Even MJ knew the trash side and he had Rodman.

    Of the younger teams I coul;d see Detroit although eliminated this year perhaps getting to grips with this part of the game quicker than lets say the Cavs who are a stronger team.

    “Play Off” Aaron Gordon had another big showing and with the favourites both suffering home losses the play offs have suddenly come alive.

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    Cavs are looking impressive without Mobley and Hunter… Mitchell is about unstoppable so far.

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    OMG Haliburton. They recently voted him the leagues most underrated player. Redo the polls!

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    Amazing comeback by the Pacers. It’ll be very hard for Cleveland to win the series from here.

    The Pacers really play as a team without one guy being the outstanding scorer. Rick Carlisle has really got the team playing some of their best basketball since his earlier JO era stint with them. Kevin Pritchard has built a very good roster too. I always liked his draft day trade deals in his Portland days wondering what he would do.

    Donnie Walsh and Larry Bird still there as advisors/consultants – there is a lot of experience and knowledge in their ranks.

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    Every games been an upset so far in the 2nd round. I think teams like the Cavs, Celtics, Twolves just didnt really get as much competition in the 1st round. Like the Knicks/Pistons series was a war but the Celtics kind of just steamrolled the Magic. Same with the Cavs playing against Miami.

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    Great point about teams being battle hardened in the first round as opposed to having a clean sweep or winning in 5. I’d always think the team which had the easier opening round and is more rested should be favourites especially the likes of the Celtics who are proven winners and have loads of experience. But maybe the tiredness kicks in more later in the play offs.

    GSW scored 54 points with their 3 point shots whilst T-Wolves only scored 15. So T-Wolves are going to need to get an incredible amount of field goals to be competitive in this series if GSW continue to shoot like this.

    The second matches for Boston and OKC are both huge tonight.

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      That Warriors game was very ugly and nearly over at half time. T’Wolves should come back stronger next game – that and Curry may or may not play… If Curry plays and the GSW win, that series is over. They won’t lose if they’re up 2-0. Too experienced combined with the talent. The Cavs are in serious trouble… their injury plagued playoffs have come at the worst time. Oh yeah and Ty Jerome who was a threat this year for 6th man of the year and a 50/40/90 season for a while has shot awful this series. They need their team back.

      As for OKC and BOS, both have lost, but imo both would need to lose again to even the series. If NYK beat BOS tonight, that series is suddenly interesting. Boston has the firepower to fight back in that scenario. So does OKC in their series. If any tie the series though, I’d give the big dawgs the advantage again and depending on how bad the victory, it would likely be a good guideline of how the series will turn out. I’m just hoping for a good, competitive, fair injury free set of games here… and the longer the series the better… Guess most of us want that though. Tonight’s games should tell us a lot of how these series will go.

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        Man I tried to trade you for Ty Jerome so many times this year. Thought you might bite on Castle’s “potential” lol.

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    Steph Curry out for at least a week which would be next 4 games. I think GSW might almost be out if he doesn’t return until game 6 at the earliest.

    Boston well ahead in 4th quarter but we know what happened in the last game.

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    Looks like the Knicks just made this a great series!!! 2-0!!!

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    Why didnt they call a timeout. You know some of these NBA coaches tend to outthink themselves. Thats why the best coaches in the league are the Spoelstra’s or Carlisle’s. who keep it simple and structured. Call a timeout and draw up a play!

    I dont mind watching the Celtics lose though and the Knicks deserved this win, they just wanted it more.

    Still all upsets. I think OKC is gonna blow out Denver in this game though.

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    It is a very likeable Knicks team. In an era where the league does not want small guards, and doesn’t want an undersized wing like Josh Hart, it is nice to see that there is still a place for guys who just go at it.

    Boston has an incredibly talented and versatile team, but have a coach who thinks they have to win by paint-by-numbers tactics. It is just dumb. It is like when a baseball team tries to swing for the fences when the wind is howling in. You have to win the games that are being played. To chalk up losses to randomness is an admission of a coaching failure. Boston is not reliant on shooting variance by limitations of their players’ talent, but by ideological choice. They are now likely to get bounced as a result.

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    I wonder if Brad Stevens could consider returning to the bench if Boston’s tactics cost them another tilt at the title?

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    This isn’t Boston’s last chance, but some roster turnover is going to have to take place. Horford is retiring, but they still have $200+million tied up in Tatum, Brown, White, Holiday, and Porzingis alone for next year. The odd illness Porzingis has battled, as well as a history of missing games, might make him harder to move than expected. Three more years on that Holiday contract is not going to be easy to move either. They are certainly going to have to transition their frontcourt without much outside of their picks or a one-for-one plus picks trade involving Pritchard or Hauser. It might take some time. I don’t think Mazzulla gets fired this year, but it does make his status less certain going into a year with greater roster turnover.

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    Joe Mazzulla will have a lot of people watching his moves if Thibs is winning the coaching battle. Brown is 28 and Tatum 27 so their two best players should be nearing their peak years. If Big Al retires he’ll be a big miss and Porz with a health issue, I don’t know if it is the same one which caused him to miss time a couple of months ago is a concern.

    This year’s draft with the 28th and 32nd pick could be a big one for Boston given the depth available. They could easily get a couple of NBA ready guys who can take minutes right away but it might not be the draft to take a punt on an upside guy.

    They have their own picks for next couple of drafts so could possibly look to trade one of them for the right player.

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    Must win for the banged-up Cavs here… Idk…

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    Cavs are winning but it feels like the first two games. Pacers just waiting to take it.

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  • #1268179
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    Donovan Mitchell too much this game… and shout out to Max Strus who’s been playing some good ball too.

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    Celtics vs Knicks game is really one sided so bad it got hit with an ugly stick.

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    At least the Warriors made a game out of it without Curry.

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    Anyone else think winners of Denver and Oklahoma series will be strong favourites to win the West now. I just think both match up well against Minny if we assume Steph doesn’t return.

    Aaron Gordon is becoming Mr play off for Denver and Julius Randle for T-Wolves is putting up Jokic level assists for a front court player.

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    I think the winner of this series wins the whole thing. Looks like this one is going to OKC, but wow that was close. Terrible first half for both teams. OKC has depth though. That was the difference in this one.

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    Aaron Gordon…!!!

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    This series is gonna mature OKC. If they can beat this Denver team I do think they win it all, but either way the odds for OKC to dominate the next 10 years of basketball are extremely high. They really only need one championship to fund the dynasty so they can continue to pay these players. But yeah Denver better get their win while this OKC team is still young because the next 5-10 years is looking like its the Thunders league.

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      Not if Houston has something to say about it – they’re another 3 years imo. OKC does have the brightest looking outlook though by far.

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    I guess the next few years could hinge on what the Lakers do post LBJ, whether Wemby becomes the player we think he can be and the next few lotteries. If the same team lands Flagg and either of AJ or Dane Peterson then that would be one hell of a core.

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      Which is a perfect way to bring up, does LBJ even stay in LA this year? He seemed pretty upset they traded Davis and blew up the team without consulting him. Does he gop to Cleveland and bring his son?

      Speaking of Cleveland… Im actually kind of pissed off by this blowout. I’m just trying to enjoy some NBA playoffs and they can’t even compete. They quit in the first 6 minutes. Down 41 points at half? Come on man.

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        I’d love it if LeBron and Bronny went to CLE.

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      Great points Hitster,
      Half time 41 point lead for Indy… smh.

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    I think LBJ stays in LA as he has that player’s option with NTC which protects him from what happened to AD. I think AD must have been pretty annoyed at being traded and not given any warning. If LBJ had known about it before AD then that would not have been on.

    I’d seen Pacers were up by 15 after first but 41 at HT is crazy.

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    Problem with the NBA for the past two decades or more is the regular seaoson and the playoffs are officiated very different. Obviously 82 games is a long schedule and to keep players playing, butts in seats and people watching the players gotta stay healthy. These players salararies are huge quarter billion dollar investments at times so of course over the 82 games not tolerating physicality makes sense. But the game is just so much different come the postseason when they start playing real basketball that a team like the Cavs that have thrived in the loose style just arent nearly as competitive.

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    Teams tighten their rosters in the play offs and stick to 8 to 10 guys. Games are likely “chased” for longer. It is noticeable that the scoring has dropped and teams started playing proper D.

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      Also the officiating allowing more hand checking, hand fighting, tons of physicality on screens. As you said the fatigue smaller rotations and games less spaced out. The level of basketball and quality of players. Its a different game completely. In my ideal world games in the regular season would be officiated the same way as the playoffs over 82 games. Players would all be bigger, stronger, less athletic by result and less agile but durable and more concerned on nutrition and strength. But thats never gonna happen, I think its what they were trying to do with the in season tournament though.

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    Some players step up in the play offs and I’m sure some do play in “cruise” mode in the regular season on occasion.

    Some teams likely sacrifice a few regular season wins for the sake of the play offs too.

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    Tatum’s ben brought out on a wheelchair. Looks like a possible achilles injury. Very unfortunate.

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  • #1268235
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    hope he’s alright… that’s a bummer! Minnesota is looking good. Randle is dominating. The Warriors usually just put Draymond on him but that’s not working.

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    Its crazy to say but Julius Randle is the best 2nd option in the NBA right now.

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    • #1268237
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      Idk, but he’s damn good… I think LeBron might end up being up there… Cooper Flagg will be too sheesh!

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    Yep. Ended up being a torn achilles tendon. Tatum went through surgery today and now has a long recovery ahead of him. The Champs are down 3-1 to the Knicks and the East is wide open. How quickly things can change.

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    Cavs are off to Cancun. Indiana comes back from behind again and its over.

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    • #1268264
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      The East isn’t looking to good right now. I mean Indiana is good and so are the Knicks, but they’re not representing the best version of the East this year. Injuries.

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    Pacers have been very impressive in the playoffs and must have a legit chance of making the finals now.

    The Denver vs OKC game coming up is huge as the winner of that series would probably be favourites to win the overall title.

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    Can we all just agree to give the winner of this series the MVP. I mean I would be fine with Co MVP’s but that doesn’t seem like it will happen.

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    Nuggets look really good right now… up 12 and Gordon with a big 3 to force time out..

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  • #1268271
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    What a game.

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  • #1268272
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    The Joker’s unreal

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    Looks like this one is OKC’s

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  • #1268276
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    Another great play off game and a team losing a lead. Could the playoffs almost have come down to who makes the best coaching calls. The likes of Rick Carlisle and possibly Thibs going at it head to head over 7 game series is probably as much as a match up as the guys on court.

    As a neutral Denver vs OKC going to game 7 would be great for us neutrals.

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    Im just gonna give you guys a heads up on this one. Right now Toronto has a +5000 odds in Vegas to land Giannis this Summer. That means ever $1 you bet you get $50 back. Reports just surfaced that Giannis wants to stay in the East and Brooklyn and Toronto are his preferred destinations so this number is gonna change very fast. If I had any free money I’d bet the house but the last 2 years have been rough on me.

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    Okay then Oh Canada what is the deal?

    I’d guess Scottie might be the only player off limits?

    Quickley and RJ or Poeltl and Ingram pretty much equal Giannis’ salary so those two, 9th pick, 2027 first rounder, 2029 first rounder and either 2031 first rounder or some rights to swap?

    Bucks get two proven starters and can take a good player with 9th pick so they stay in play off mix and would have Dame to return too.

    Brooklyn could absorb the salary or send Claxton, Johnson and younger guys. They have 4 first rounders this year so would send 8th, 19th and maybe one of 26th or 27th plus future first rounders.

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    I don’t think they get Scottie and the 9th pick. I think they get one or the other. Dick, Ingram, 9 and future picks would probably be the deal. I think Giannis would want to play with Scottie. He praised him earlier this year.

    “I always believed there are phases, and I always felt like that would be my last phase, as a guy that can playmake, and can set up a team, and be a legit point forward out there,” Antetokounmpo told reporters Thursday night. “You see a lot of people playing that way right now from Siakam, from Pablo, Scottie Barnes. You see a lot of people that can handle the ball and put their teammates in the right place and playmake and make the team better.”

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    All the ESPN reports about Giannis to San Antonio or Houston are great but if Giannis doesn’t want to play there its not happening.

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    • #1268283
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      Houston offers a great package. I think a lot of teams could be in play though as long as they can contend…

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    GSW just aren’t the same without Curry. It seems though they don’t really stand a chance anymore. Hope GSW make a game out of this…

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  • #1268293
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    Timberwolves won but minus Steph on GSW it wasn’t a surprise. Steph should return next season and Play Off Jimmy seems to be motivated again so they can have another run maybe.

    One wildcard in the Giannis stakes is a certain LBJ has a player option might he fancy jumping to where Giannis could land and even takes a huge pay cut to do so.

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  • #1268295
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    LeBron isn’t leaving the Lakers… I wish they’d trade him and Bronny away, but he’s not going anywhere.

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    For a guy who was questionable tonight due to illness, Jamal Murray’s doing pretty darn well. Christian Braun has been solid too…

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    Cason Wallace is a G!!!

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    Dort at the buzzer!!!

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  • #1268340
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    Looks like Denver forces a game 7!!!

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    They should have been playing Julian Strawther a long time ago. Porters shoulder injury has been hurting the Nuggets.

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    Denver vs OKC is a great play off series and winners may well be favourites to win the whole thing. Both match up well vs T-Wolves but I wonder how much these extra games are taking out of both sides. If T-Wolves start the WCF strong it will be a big task to peg them back.

    Pacers went about regular season quietly as a rock solid team unit and despite making ECF last season weren’t really in discussions to go as far this year but they have downed two more fancied teams by clear margins and are again having a rest period whilst their potential opponents are still fighting it out.

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  • #1268376
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    I wonder… could the Knicks close the Celtics tonight? Likely, the Celtics are banged up… But are we sleeping on the Knicks possibly? The winner of the DEN/OKC should be the favorites to win it, but what about the Knicks chances???

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    The Knicks have their strongest team this century and Thibs has the knowledge to match any of the other coaches in the play offs. Knicks vs Pacers I’d not like to call to be honest.

    The only worry about the Knicks is always have their key starters played too many minutes and could this lead to fatigue against a slightly fresher team in ECF or NBA Finals. Plus they are the Knicks and are probably the biggest underachievers of any sports team in the world given their fanbase and net worth.

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  • #1268387
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    That wasn’t much of a game… Miles McBride though – not bad at all!!!

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    DEN @ OKC… this is going to be great!!!

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  • #1268433
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    While I’m surprised and impressed by OKC I still have Denver winning this game.

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    • #1268434
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      Denver’s up, I still got OKC though.

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    OKC look to have made the decisive move in the 2nd quarter. Are they holding fire on MVP winner due to this series?

    Pacers vs Knicks will be a huge series for both teams as neither has made the finals in 25 or so years.

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  • #1268437
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    OKC has a platoon of very solid players across the board on their team. Jokic is the best player in the world imo still, but SGA is right there and on a better team and had the better game 7. What an impressive win for OKC!

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  • #1268439
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    The Thunder still have Topic to fit into rotation next season. Plus two first rounders this year, they will be able to add even more depth. Plus have Hartenstein on a huge team option for 26/27 season which could be a valuable trading chip. If they make the pieces balance then they have a nice window to be leading contenders.

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    • #1268443
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      and imagine if they got Giannis…

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        It looks like they wont even need Giannis. If they win the Championship only point in getting him is to prevent other teams from getting him. Although the Timberwolves have a very good team so well see what happens they are currently heavy favorites,

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  • #1268495
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    OKC looked fantastic tonight… SGA had a good but nothing special for him game and they still crushed Minny.

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    OKC looked comfortable with SGA not going into clutch mode. With home court advantage and not looking to have been hindered by long Denver series they look a tough nut to crack.

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  • #1268521
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    Haliburton has dimes!

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    Kat’s facial expressions are just too much.

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  • #1268525
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    If this is an indicator of what’s to come in this series, we’re in for a great series! What a game! Nesmith has been ballin out lately.

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    Haliburton’s elite at this point. Hen just runs back behind the line and shoots. Foot on the line but still.

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  • #1268528
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    Damn! Indiana lookin’ good! Toppin just got revenge! Hahaha.

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  • #1268541
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    The Thunder look like that team. I feel they just beat a better team in Denver than the T’Wolves.

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    The Pacers vs Knicks series could be a classic and game one was higher scoring in normal time than I thought it would be.

    OKC do look better than T-Wolves but were home team . Games 3 and 4 are crucial the T-Wolves need to win both as I don’t see Denver losding two home games in this series.

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    Lol. People found a new nickname for SGA now and are calling him ‘FTA’ because of all the flopping.

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  • #1268558
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    The Knicks don’t want to go down 0-2 and have to play on the road…

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  • #1268560
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    So… what are the chances Indiana wins the title?

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    I see OKC matching up well vs Pacers but I thought Knicks had slight edge over the Pacers.

    Stephen A is no doubt having a meltdown as one of those entitled Knicks fans. I joke the Lakers fans are entitled but they have 17 Championships whilst the Knicks have 2!

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  • #1268570
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    Pacers have been a pleasant surprise to watch this series. They kind of had an easier road to get there, but it’s given them an energetic edge atm.

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    And the team I think is going to win the title is playing like trash right now. This game isn’t close.

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  • #1268583
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    The playoffs have been good, I enjoy the physicality and the way teams are utilizing bigs again. But whats up with all these blowouts. I don’t remember a postseason with this many blowouts in the middle of a competitive series.

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    Do teams just write the match off and not try to chase a comeback I wonder?

    Even the Kentucky benchwarmer Dillingham has seen a minute or two?

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  • #1268599
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    Knicks have started Robinson to try and shake things up but the Pacers are up by 10 in the 2nd quarter. The Knicks need to step up a gear or this series could be virtually over.

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    Knicks are a step behind and out of sorts. Bad fouls, no legs in their shots, no communication. Their gonna need a miracle the Pacers just always seemed in control of this series even when they were behind.

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  • #1268605
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    Looks like the Knicks got a little luck and a second wind on their side. They showed more energy towards the end.

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  • #1268612
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    The Knicks had that KAT led surge to bring them back into the game and get a precious win. Thibs changed his line up a bit but didn’t go deeper into his roster. There have been a large number of comebacks in this year’s playoffs too. I’d always feel the best teams and coaches would be able to protect leads better but the comeback did happen early in the 4th in this latest game.

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    • #1268615
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      Yes, it’s been weird… seems like it’s been either a miraculous ending of a game or a complete blow-out throughout these playoffs.

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  • #1268670
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    Pretty good game so far… Knicks were keeping up for the most part.

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  • #1268672
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    Pacers just been on a 7-0 run and pulled a dozen clear. I think whoever wins tonight will take the series.

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  • #1268677
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    The Pacers ran out quite comfortable winners in the end with Halliburton having an almost statistically perfect triple double game and Siakam contributing another 30 points. But in this league of superstars we have a team on the verge of the NBa finals with only one player averaging over 20ppg across the play offs and their best rebounder only averaging 6 rebounds per game.

    But the players play as a team, have a top coach and all contribute across the board with their lowest scoring starter averaging over 13ppg. Turner is a rock solid defensive anchor and the two ANs provide great support and intangibles as well as providing telling stats across their columns,

    The bench gives them useful depth to help match other team’s reserves too. A great effort so far by the Pacers.

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  • #1268702
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    If OKC closes out the series tonight – their going to be even tougher to beat now that we’re this far in the playoffs.

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    holding Minny to 9 in the first is pretty good.

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    Chet and SGA have got the afterburners on and are outscoring Minny as a duo. I cannot see OKC blowing this lead, just look for the best shots and use up the clock in the 2nd half.

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  • #1268717
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    So OKC just steamrolls the league for the next 10 years. Fun.

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  • #1268719
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    They just sure did tonight

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    Pacers might close the series tonight the way it’s going… they have a slight edge atm.

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    Looks like it’s the Pacers going to the finals… their reward will be going against OKC… mighty big task there.

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    Great achievement by the PAcers to make the final but I’d still favour OLC as they have the MVP and extra depth in their bench. I think the Pacers can make a series of it but I’d say OKC in 6 games.

    Siakam trade has proved a great move for the Pacers.

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      I agree that OKC takes this series… I’d say though with Indiana’s ability to put up points, they have a sucker punches chance of winning.

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    The trade has worked out well for Indiana and I’m very happy for Siakam. I’ve always stood up for Siakam, Raptors fans used to trash him while he was here. Now that hes gone all those same people argue we never should have traded him. Right now in my City people are upset with Masai and saying Toronto would be in the Finals if we didn’t blow it up. I try to explain we were 15-25 at the time and everyone was demanding we tank. They forget.

    Fastforward to 2025 we ended up getting Brandon Ingram, Ochai Agbaji and Jakobe Walter for Pascal Siakam and we got Johnathan Mogbo, Immanuel Quickley and RJ Barrett for Anunoby. Both trades net a fringe allstar talent, a young rotation player and a talented prospect. Thats very good. Brandon Ingram is getting slept on here. He’s an allstar calibur player if healthy and has just as much skill and talent as Siakam. Is he as competitive? As of right now the awnser would be no but hes defenitely a good peice to build around.

    Pacers are gonna lose in the finals. Toronto’s gonna be good next year. Everyones gonna praise Masai and say hes a genius and forget this moment where a 14-25 Raptors team should have never blew it all up.

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    Siakam would have been a free agent in summer 2024 so you could have lost him for nothing and as you say the trade gave you an asset to include in trade for Ingram so it worked out pretty well.

    Siakam’s regular season numbers have been down on what he achieved for the Raptors but his contribution on the right sort of team shows how good a player he is.

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    Wow, if OKC wins, SGA has a good chance at joining some great company in having won an MVP, NBA title and NBA Finals MVP.

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  • #1268900
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    Haliburton might have just caught OKC off surprises with that shot before the buzzer…

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  • #1268901
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    Pacers do it again. If the Pacers win the Finals you gotta think a bunch of teams stop their tank and try to compete next year.

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    • #1268902
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      I had a feeling they’d win the first one… they took OKC by surprise imo. I think they can make a series out of it now… they can put up a lot of points. OKC will still likely win the title though.

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    OKC were up by nearly 10 when I went to bed due to time difference in UK. But to see Pacers had come back to win again was a shock. I just didn’t want a blow out in G1 as the Thunder could have steamrollered the series. But it certainly opens things up now.
    SGA had a big game and still came out on the losing side. Both teams have 3 home games each now potentially I think OKC will win gam/games in Indiana but the Pacers are a tough nut at home. I could see this going to G7 possibly but still fravour OKC.

    OKC have to win game 2 and there is a worry SGA may even have a quiet game somewhere if that had happened last night then OKC could have written it off. But when SGA fires and they lose it hits them harder.

    Presti vs Pritchard like in those later 2000 drafts but this time in the final.

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  • #1268920
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    2 things here…. If the Pacers win, they’re up 2-0 and go to play at home with that advantage… If OKC wins this series, they might be the dynasty in the making.

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    People talk about an OKC dynasty and I could see them being favourites for next year too if everyone stays sound. Boston can come again if Tatum gets back. Denver has the best player in the world and took OKC to 7 games but OKC are younger than them.

    Does a lot also depend if Wemby regains and retains fitness, I’d back Pops, Burford and co to put a good roster around him just depends on how the post Pops coaching era goes alongside Wemby’s outlook.

    Also if Giannis, Booker etc ever get traded the landscape can change overnight.

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    The way I see it is this; If the Spurs were considered a dynasty (which those teams were by many), then I think the trajectory of OKC being so young and disciplined with that many picks for their future on top of everything else, they’re on that path on steroids. Not saying their can’t be another… The Spurs dynasty you can say overlapped with a Lakers dynasty at the time. Not every decade has a dynasty team and not every decade has only one dynasty team… I think the Spurs have a chance to rival OKC for sure. I also like Orlando and Houston’s trajectories… But if we date it back to the 60s, the Celtics were the clear dynasty then. In the 70s I don’t think their was a dynasty team, but their were some very good teams. Transitioning from 70s to early 80s, the 76ers were right there but not quite a dynasty. In the 80s we had the Lakers and Celtics. Transitioning from the 80s to the 90s we had a very great team in the Pistons that were flirting with dynasty, but they met in the 90s the Bulls The Rockets were peppered in there as another great team, but not quite dynasty as it wasn’t against the best. The 2000s were predominantly the Lakers and the Spurs dynasties. 2010s you have to say the Warriors were the dynasty team. Since the Warriors there have been some great teams, but not quite dynasty… The OKC team assembled has the trajectory of one and that’s not lightly said obviously. Of the teams you mentioned, the Nuggets I think have seen their best days and the window is closing this year, or maybe already has. As for Boston, we don’t know how Tatum and Brown even return. This is a gap year for them which means they too might have their window up this go round… The teams imo that have a chance to spoil their chances are Orlando if they can stay together and build, San Antonio or Houston for obvious reasons… and then it a bunch of really good teams that have a sucker puncher’s chance at winning maybe 1. At least that’s the way I’m seeing the trajectory for now. OKC lost game 1, but fact is if they win the series – they’ve also won 68 games… that is considered already among one of the best seasons ever if they pull it off. And they’re so young!

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    The Spurs had success over Tim Duncan’s career but never went back to back. Boston under Red Auerbach and Bill Russell was a dynasty with Jerry West’s Lakers often coming up short. The Showtime Lakers and Bird’s Celtics were great dynasties with the blue collar Pistons taking two titles with MJ’s Bulls coming up and then dominating the 1990;s. Hakeem’s Rockets won the two years MJ sat out.

    The Shaq and Kobe Lakers were a dynasty, the Pistons reached a load of conference finals or better but never won more than one title. The Kobe Lakers with Pau Gasol and the Miami big 3 were dynasties for a short while.Boston’s original big 3 could possibly have had a 3 peat if KG hadn’t got injured in his 2nd year there and then they lost the finals in 2010. LBJ had another 4 successive finals appearances with the Cavs after he rejoined them from Miami. So LBJ was effectively a one man dynasty in the 2010’s.

    GSW had a great run against LBJ Cavs’ and extended their run to another title in 2022. OKC would need to reach the final regularly over the next 5 years and to win it a couple of times to have their own dynasty IMO.

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      I think that’s possible and they’re built for the long haul too…

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    One thing that I didn’t mention about OKC is that they have a lot of cap friendly deals on their roster. They will have to sort out extensions for Jalen Williams and Chet Holmgren but hold player options on some good key guys for 26/27. Plus have other good rotation guys on longer deals and will have some other good prospects on rookie deals.

    Topic would have been a top 10 pick last year but for his injury, they may even look to consolidate their two first rounders this year to trade up into the lottery or they could take an upside guys and give them time. Chet only played 32 regular season games too this year so if he can stay sound long term could they have a 70 win season. Plus as a top contender with the MVP in situ it will be an attractive landing space for veteran ring chasers which could give them bench depth via MLE or veteran’s min.

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  • #1269006
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    1-1… and this one wasn’t close. I think Indiana woke up a sleeping giant game 1.

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    Indiana is showing they belong for sure… their making this a series.

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    Haliburton’s been hitting some big time shots…

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    Do the Thunder need to win this series to encourage their owners to spend money well into the luxary tax? Are we going to get a repeat of the James Harden situation when they chose not to match Houston’s offer?

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      hard to say, but I think they can do even better with what they have. Chet was pretty good tonight and Haliburton and SGA canceled each other out basically. It wasn’t until the second half the Pacers outpaced them. I still believe OKC wins the series, but it’s subject to change if they go down 3-1. Indiana just matches up well.

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    The Thunder traded Harden away in 2012 to Houston instead of offering him an extension. With hindsight no-one knows whether they would have won a title given how good Miami with their big 3 was then.

    Back to current finals I almost want it to go into game 5 at 2 each to give us a great final. Ideally it goes to 3 all. The Thunder have better depth but Pacers had great bench scoring last night. The game was a real ding dong with both teams having big winning quarters.

    Its almost as if the Pacers cannot keep pulling back and winning all these tight games but also the more tight games OKC lose to the Pacers the more doubt sets in.

    In some ways losing by well over 20 to accept the defeat and move onto the next game but losing a tight game at the death or in OT could really hurt the losing team and prove the decisive moment.

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    It defenitely feels like Indiabna is in full control of this game and series,.Does OKC have a run in them or have the Pacers broken this young Thunder teams will?

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    • #1269139
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      It’s a good question, it’s like the Pacers not only match up well with the Thunder, but the Thunder haven’t figured how to stop Indiana either.

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    Looks like OKC has some fight in them .

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    SGA carries them to the win. Exactly when they needed him.

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  • #1269146
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    Series perfectly poised as both teams know they can beat each other home and away. If one team makes a big push or grinds out game 5 win they will know one more huge effort gets them the title.

    SGA stepped up last night when Thunder needed him but Pacers play so well as a team this final series could still go either way.

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      Caruso also had a great game… I thought their frontcourt struggled for the most part, but they still pulled it off. SGA had his third wind to win.

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    Jalen Williams is doing whatever he wants to… unstoppable for Indiana atm.

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    Indiana always seems like theyve got a chance. Cant count them out, they just keep playing one possession at a time.

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  • #1269283
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    It’s going to be hard to beat OKC now… well going to watch James Barlowe’s top 5 now…

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    Jalen and SGA had big games and you have to favour the Thunder to win one of the last two games. But Pacers are a tough nut and I really hope it goes to game 7 as a neutral and then the best team wins.

    Is the Pacers side the “least star studied” team to make the finals since Detroit had its grear run in the mid 2000’s. A real hard working all foe one, one for all type team.

    Just thinking of the “fun” the Pistons team of Sheed, Big Ben, Billups etc had with the Pacers. How would that classic Detroit team fare against the current OKC team?

    I’d say the OKC team has potential to outscore them but Big Ben would be banging them and dominating the boards, Sheed doing his thing and Billups marking SGA could make it a real battle for OKC.

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    • #1269288
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      It would have to depend on era… the Pistons then were built for that time. They’d likely beat OKC in their time, but OKC beats the space and pace. OKC would have the advantage overall imo. More switch ability and the game has evolved. OKC is one of the best teams we’ve seen. I think they’re as good as a dynasty Warriors team. Pistons would be physical and tough though, it wouldn’t be cupcake city or anything.

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  • #1269380
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    I thought this game would be lop sided the other way around… OKC has looked lackadaisical so far at times and nothing has been falling for Chet.

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    Looking like we have a decider coming!

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  • #1269387
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    A real ding dong play off series with no team having won more than two successive games. The momentum seemed to be with the Thunder especially with an injury issue around one of the Pacers best players. But Pacers came out strong and it looked like both teams knew there was only to be one result by the 3rd quarter and neither chased the game.

    I had wanted it to be all level after 4 and 6 games so we got a good series and we can then have a great decider.

    The Thunder have home team advantage so have to be favourites on that alone but Pacers have matched them superbly in the series. There is talk that the Thunder could be starting a new dynasty and often the first title is the hardest but the Pacers have shown last year’s Conference Final was no fluke.

    My head says Thunder my heart says Pacers – they have a very elderly owner and I’ve always had a soft spot for Kevin Pritchard although Sam Presti is an excellent Executive too.

    May the best team win!

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    Looks like Haliburton is out for the rest of the game. Injury looks pretty bad. There was an ESPN anaylyst that suggested he shouldnt play game 6 or 7. Saying his longterm health is more important than one game. He got alot of negative feedback for those comments but looks like the worst case scenerio has played itself out. Might this be another Isaiah Thomas ‘Celtics’ situation? Hopefully hes alright its been fun watching him play this year.

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    Its still a very tight game too close to call. Can we end up with an OT final game now that would be fun!

    Pacers better 3 point shooting keeping them in it.

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    Torn achilles for Haliburton confirmed. What a damn shame.

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      Watch Nembhard have the game of his life…

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    Could be anything from the end of the year or whole of next season he is out. Best wishes to him. I wonder if Pacers regret trading 23rd pick now.

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    Pacers unravelling here in the 3rd.

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    About over now… this is going to be a team to recon with for the foreseeable future.

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    OKC wins. Best NBA postseason in many years. There were great games from game one of the 1st round all the way to game 7 of the Finals and we got two small market teams in the Finals.

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      It was a great post season, and strangely there were as many blow outs as there were barnburners…

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    The game was decided when OKC had that big 3rd quarter and their extra depth told. SGA didn’t have a good shooting game but was still top scorer. Haliburton had looked sharp earlier before he got injured and if he had played full game it would have been closer but I think OKC would have still had a few points in hand.

    OKC have their title and sometimes the first is the most difficult. The Pacers can still be a good team out East but without Haliburton for some of next season they will likely fall back a bit. Who emerges from the East next year could be fun. Will the Cavs become as good a play off as regular season team, can Orlando or Detroit step up, Philly if Embeast can stay sound. Plus as every Knicks fan thinks there is always next year!

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      Good on SGA to get that Finals MVP last night… joins some pretty good company, not every year do we have someone win the MVP and the Finals MVP in the same year.

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    He probably could have won DPOY as well. I understand them giving it to Mobley but OKC was byfar the best defensive team this year, with the best record in the stronger conference and SGA is clearly that teams defensive quarterback. All the advanced stats support him there too.

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    That would be a real clean sweep win all three in one year.

    Kinda karma that a player who was traded ends up a better player than the main one in the deal.

    Shai also in the play offs was down a fair bit on his regular season form. If he brings that to post season then I can see why people talk about the Thunder’s upside.

    Would people agree SGA is a better player when he won his first title than Steph was when he won his first?

    Although Steph was MVP that year too I think Shai has the edge on abilitiy after first respective title. Shai of course needs to win a few more and build a dynasty like Steph did.

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      Shai and Curry are very comparable when it comes to peak impact imo. It’s pick your preference.

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    You could put peak Steph on Thunder team this year and they’d win. I don’t think Thunder quite win with first MVP Steph though.

    SGA is better player of both when 26/27 but has to keep it up to get near Steph’s legacy.

    If we took a snapshot of the current NBA who would people rank as their top 5 players still playing based on their careers so far.

    I’d go :-

    LBJ
    Steph
    Jokic
    KD
    Westbrook

    Giannis/Harden/Doncic/KD and SGA just miss out.

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