Joe Dumars must go

They traded Chauncey because Cleveland beat the pistons in the playoffs and it was because chauncey played terrible. Also Stuckey gave them “fools gold” when he stepped in for Chauncey and was great then teams realized he can’t shoot.

The players had tuned out saunders, curry was a mistake but a move had to be made.

It’s hard to draft good players when you have late picks. Before Darko their were no major busts from Europe. Also i’m a cavs fan, please don’t talk about draft history. You now the rule that prevents you from trading consecutive picks, that was because of us.
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hes had a lot of mess ups but he won a championship. billups was trading for cap space and nothing more. darko was a huge mistake. giving all that money to gordon and charlie v was a huge mistake. he has made his bed and now has to sleep in it

Joe Dumars made a big mistake when he put so much into Rodney Stuckey becoming a star, and that he had to make sure Stuckey was starting. The Pistons are really paying for it. It may have been a defensible decision, but the results are not. It hasn’t worked, but I don’t think they should fire him given that he has already assembled a team that won a title. They aren’t without hope in part because their luck with health has been so bad that it is positioning them to get a top six or seven pick. I think there is a good chance that they can come away with either one of the two elite prospects (Wall and Turner) or a true center (Cousins or Aldrich).

Stuckey at 15 was a good pick, …also tayshaun in the 20s proved to be a great pick…guys like Afflalo, Maxiell, Delfino arn’t stars, bu they are solid role players and I don’t think you can ask for anything more from guys getting drafted in the 20s.

Ben wallace was obviously on his way down…he was, what, 32? when he became a free agent…Chicago signed him for like 15mil a year for 3-4? years…I’m glad he didn’t match that…Remember, his last season of his contract would be THIS season if he didn’t get bought out by the Suns, he’s playing well this year, but not 15mil worth at all.

He also basically traded chauncy for gordan and CV and to let stuckey start…in 3-4 years tell me who would you rather have…a retired or 37 year old chauncy or 3 solid players in their prime…He saw that the team was on the way down and he didn’t hesitate to change the lineup before they became too old and restricted by long contracts.

He’s not the best GM, but he’s made some solid moves, so don’t act like he’s the dumbest man in basketball or whatever.

How are the Pistons “really paying” for Stuckey starting? He was damn near averaging 20, 5 and 5 before he got injured… HE isn’t the problem.

I said it several times, that its time for Gypsy Joe to GO…But many guys on this site who just recently started b-ball said he’s the GM of the decade…He has far more failures than success as the Pistons GM.. He got lucky in 2004 and won a ring..When a talented Lakers team let their egos get in the way of winning a championship…He got rid of Billups the heart & soul of the team..He handed Stuckey the keys a little to early..Don’t get me wrong…Stuckey is an excellent player but Billups brought things to the table you can’t teach…Let’s see how much he loves Stuckey when the Pistons win the lottery and drafts Walls

Joe Dumars has made a few mistakes lately. But the decisions to let the Wallaces go were not among them.

Still, Dumars is the man responsible for building the only NBA Champion without a Hall of Fame player since the Supersonics won in 1979. He’s among the most respected GMs in the game. And yes, he’s had a few bad moves lately. But I don’t think he’s among the bottom half of NBA general managers.

You mention those "bad moves." What about trading for the Wallaces in the first place? What about Jerry Stackhouse for Richard Hamilton? What about drafting Tayshaun Prince? Or grabbing Antonio McDyess when most thought he was done?

Dumars is a good general manager who has had some bad luck and some bad decisions lately. But he’s good enough to pull himself out of this rut, and he’s not going anywhere.

the reason stuckey is the problem is because he did so well in the playoffs, they thought they had a budding franchise player so they traded chauncey. Stuckey has shown to be a good player but if he is your best your team sucks. Sheed left because they just got swept in the playoffs. Rip has gotten old and isn’t the same player he was even 3 year ago. Prince never was actually that good, he is a good 3rd option but if he is higher than that you team will struggle offencively.

Just because a team goes from perenial confernce final positions to no playoffs for one year doesn’t mean the gm is to blame, his team got old and rather than try yet another hopeless campaign he traded and/or let go he old as dirt team and has started to build for the future. All they need to really start up again is 2 good draft years and a key trade to be back to piston glory. If they got the first pick and got john wall you would forget all about how bad they are this year and start saying championship.

tezo, Stuckey can’t shoot and isn’t a real point guard. Am I missing something where a guy who is shooting 40 percent, can’t hit a three, and isn’t a pass first point is worth shipping off Billups, and then alienating both Rip and AI by saying Stuckey is going to be a starter? He isn’t a bad player, but he is part of the problem. His being the primary point guard would be a big problem going forward. They overvalued him, plain and simple.

Firing Joe Dumars won’t do anything.