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- Posted on: Fri, 01/27/2023 - 12:47am #1258577
NorrinRaddParticipantThis time I’ve added some more prospects, as it seems there’s a lot that have a shot at being drafted depending on who enters the draft. Of course I encourage more big boards, (or mocks) as we love lurking to see where others stand on prospects. Doesn’t matter how much guys are on the radar either, just a lottery big board is good even. I’m also going more on intel based and not just my gut feeling this time. Any questions, comments or critiques are welcome.
1 Obvious top pick
Victor Wembanyama – France2 Obvious 2nd pick
Scoot Henderson – GLeague3 Obvious 3rd pick
Brandon Miller – Alabama4 Likely top 5/top 10 floor
GG Jackson – South Carolina
Nick Smith – Arkansas
Ausur Thompson – OTE5 Likely top 10/Lottery pick
Amen Thompson – OTE
Jett Howard – Michigan
Rayan Rupert – France6 Likely Lottery/maybe top 10
Dariq Whitehead – Duke
Gradey Dick – Kansas
Anthony Black – Arkansas
Keyonte George – Baylor7 Likely top 20/maybe lottery
Cam Whitmore – Villanova
Jarace Walker – Houston
Taylor Hendricks – UCF
Brice Sensabaugh – Ohio State
Cason Wallace – Kentucky8 Likely top 25/doubtful lottery
Donovan Clingan – UConn
Noah Clowney – Alabama
Kyle Filipowski – Duke
Emoni Bates – Eastern Michigan
Maxwell Lewis – Pepperdine
Terquavion Smith – NC State
DaRon Holmes – Dayton9 Likely 1st/early 2nd maybe top 25
Baba Miller – Florida State
Kris Murray – Iowa
Colby Jones – Xavier
Grant Nelson – North Dakota State
Jalen Pickett – Penn State
Branden Carlson – Utah
Sidy Cissoko – GLeague
James Nnaji – Nigeria
Tristan Vukcevic – Serbia10 Likely early 2nd/maybe 1st
Jordan Hawkins – UConn
Mouhamed Gueye – Washington State
Julian Strawther – Gonzaga
Zach Edey – Purdue
Mike Miles – TCU
Marcus Sasser – Houston
Souley Boum – Xavier
Leonard Miller – GLeague
Mojave King – GLeague11 Likely 2nd/doubtful 1st
Kel’el Ware – Oregon
JJ Starling – Notre Dame
Dereck Lively – Duke
Judah Mintz – Syracuse
Julian Phillips – Tennessee
Kam Jones – Marquette
Eric Gaines – UAB
Tucker DeVries – Drake
Daniel Batcho – Texas Tech
Ricky Council IV – Arkansas
Coleman Hawkins – Illinois
Trayce Jackson-Davis – Indiana
Tyler Burton – Richmond
Jalen Wilson – Kansas
Terrance Shannon – Illinois12 Likely UDFA/super long shot 1st
Jaden Bradley – Alabama
Amaree Abram – Ole’ Miss
Jalen Hood-Schifino – Indiana
Jordan Walsh – Arkansas
Brandin Podziemski – Santa Clara
Terrance Edwards – James Madison
Nae’Qwan Tomlin – Kansas State
Azuolas Tubelis – Arizona
Oumar Ballo – Arizona
Olivier Maxence Prosper – Marquette
Andre Jackson, Jr. – UConn
Jalen Slawson – Furman
Juan Nunez – Spain
Leonardo Okeke – Italy
Nikola Djurisic – Serbia
Berke Buyuktuncel – Turkey
Ousmane N’Diaye – Senegal13 Likely UDFA/mid 2nd
Chris Livingston – Kentucky
Dillon Mitchell – Texas
Terrance Arceneaux – Houston
Oso Ighodaro – Marquette
Taran Armstrong – Cal Baptist
Arthur Kaluma – Creighton
Keshon Gilbert – UNLV
Alijah Martin – Florida Atlantic
Matthew Cleveland – Florida State
Nolan Hickman – Gonzaga
RJ Davis – UNC
Trevon Brazile – Arkansas
RayJ Dennis – Toledo
Kadin Shedrick – Virginia
LJ Cryer – Baylor
Isaiah Wong – Miami (FL)
Austin Crowley – Southern Miss
Reece Beekman – Virginia
AJ Hoggard – Michigan State
Adam Flagler – Baylor
Joey Hauser – Michigan State
Oscar Tshiebwe – Kentucky
Drew Peterson – USC
Jaime Jaquez, Jr. – UCLA
Jaylin Clark – UCLA
Keyontae Johnson – Kansas State
D’Moi Hodge – Mizzou
Kevin McCullar – Kansas
Taevion Kinsey – Marshall
Isaiah Stevens – Colorado State
Aaron Estrada – Hofstra
Thierry Darlan – Senegal
Nikos Rogkavopoulos – Greece
Bilal Coulibaly – France
Tom Digeu – France14 Likely UDFA/late 2nd
Jordan Pope – Oregon State
Cade Tyson – Belmont
Connor Essegian – Wisconsin
Darrion Williams – Nevada
Nate Calmese – Lamar
Aidan Mahaney – St. Mary’s
Rylan Griffen – Alabama
Jackson Paveletzke – Wofford
Adem Bona – UCLA
Tyrese Proctor – Duke
Seth Trimble – UNC
Tre White – USC
Mike Sharavjants – Dayton
Mark Armstrong – Villanova
Malik Reveau – Indiana
Fletcher Loyer – Purdue
Chance Westry – Auburn
Amari Bailey – UCLA
Mark Mitchell – Duke
Brandon Murray – Georgetown
Alex Fudge – Florida
Tyrese Hunter – Texas
Tramon Mark – Houston
Miles Kelly – Georgia Tech
Sion James – Tulane
Teafale Lenard – Middle Tennessee
Harrison Ingram – Stanford
Julian Reese – Maryland
Javian McCullom – Siena
Jalen Cook – Tulane
Kobe Bufkin – Michigan
Enrique Freeman – Akron
Matt Knowling – Yale
Brice Williams – Charlotte
Jaykwon Walton – Wichita State
Yuri Collins – St. Louis
Grant Sherfield – Oklahoma
Drew Timme – Gonzaga
Khalil Shabazz – San Francisco
Cam Spencer – Rutgers
Kobe Brown – Mizzou
Matthew Mayer – Illinois
Baylor Scheierman – Creighton
Markquis Nowell – Kansas State
Jelly Walker – UAB
Jacob Toppin – Kentucky
Jamarion Sharp – Western Kentucky
Jake Stephens – Chattanooga
Hakim Hart – Maryland
Jahmir Young – Maryland
Jamal Shead – Houston15 Likely UDFA/on the radar
Jazian Gortman – OTE
Brice Griggs – OTE
Nathan Missia-Dio – OTE
AJ Brown – Ohio
Foster Loyer – Davidson
Henri Veesaar – Arizona
Kylan Boswell – Arizona
Bobi Klintman – Wake Forest
Jevon Porter – Pepperdine
Micah Handlogten – Marshall
Jamison Battle – Minnesota
Malik Hall – Michigan State
Landers Nolley II – Cincinnati
Omari Moore – San Jose State
Kadary Richmond – Seton Hall
Drew Pember – UNC Asheville
Adama Sanogo – UConn
Emanuel Miller – TCU
Isiaih Mosley – Mizzou
Matthew Murrell – Ole’ Miss
JT Shumate – Toledo
Nelly Junior Joseph – Iona
Craig Porter, Jr. – Wichita State
Jaelen House – New Mexico
Charles Bediako – Alabama
Mark Sears – Alabama
Nimari Burnett – Alabama
Johni Broome – Auburn
Allen Flanigan – Auburn
Armando Bacot – UNC
Pete Nance – UNC
Keion Brooks – Washington State
Daimion Collins – Kentucky
Nijel Pack – Miami (FL)
Clifford Omoruyi – Rutgers
Ryan Kalkbrenner – Creighton
Ryan Nembhard – Creighton
Noah Locke – Providence
Corey Floyd, Jr. – Providence
Jack Nunge – Xavier
Kevin Obanor – Texas Tech
Hason Ward – Iowa State
Osun Osunniyi – Iowa State
Dawson Garcia – Minnesota
El Ellis – Louisville
Qua Grant – Sam Houston State
Sincere Carry – Kent State
Malachi Smith – Gonzaga
Will Richardson – Oregon
N’Faley Dante – Oregon
Nicolas Timberlake – Towson
Max Abmas – Oral Roberts
Kendric Davis – Memphis
DeAndre Williams – Memphis
Josh Oduru – George Mason
Teddy Allen – New Mexico State
Antoine Davis – Detroit
Mike Bothwell – Furman
Efe Abogidi – GLeague
Roko Prkacin – Croatia
Michael Caicedo – Spain
Vojin Medarevic – SerbiaThe NBA needs a bigger farm system.
1+ - Posted on: Fri, 01/27/2023 - 8:11am #1258578
HitsterParticipantLooks pretty much on the money as always.
The G League system is developing and I like the idea of the Ignite team, if a couple more like that were created it would be a good idea.Baba Miller I’m now thinking really needs to return for his Soph year with Florida State as his current draft status isn’t looking great.
1+ - Posted on: Wed, 02/01/2023 - 7:59am #1258627
armchairgmParticipantMine I guess is the Feb Big Board.
1. Victor Wembanyama
2. Scoot Henderson
3. Brandon Miller
4. Amen Thompson
5. Nick Smith
6. Cam Whitmore
7. Anthony Black
8. Grady Dick
9. Ausur Thompson
10. Keyonte George
11. GG Jackson
12. Kris Murray
13. Taylor Hendricks
14. Jarace Walker
15. Jett Howard
16. Rayan Rupert
17. Maxwell Lewis
19. Cason Wallace
20. Noah Clowney
21. Jalen Wilson
22. Brice Sensabaugh
23. Jordan Hawkins
24. Kyle Filopowski
25. Julian Strawther
26. Terquavion Smith
27. Trayce Jackosn Davis
28. Leonard Miller
29. Daron Holmes
30. Kelel Ware
31. Baba Miller
32. Bilal Coulibaly
33. Adem Bona
34. Jordan Walsh
35. Colby Jones
36. Coleman Hawkins
37. Arthur Kaluma
38. Ricky Council
39. Sidy Cissoko
40. Marcus Sasser
41. Jalen Hood Schifino
42. Azoulas Tubelis
43. Nikola Djurisic
44. Andre Jackson
45. James NNaji
46. Emoni Bates
47. Adam Flagler
48. Terrence Shannon
49 LJ Cryer
50. Brandon Podziemski
51. Grant Sherfield
52. Zach Edey
53. Tristan Vukcevic
54. Grant Nelson
55. Mouhamed Gueye
56. Jaimie Jacquez
57. Mojave King
58. Berke Buyuktuncel
59. Adama Sanogo
60. Isaiah Wong
61. Baylor Scheierman
62. Reece Beekman
63. Malcolm Cazalon
64. Armondo Bacot
65. Drew Timme
66. Jaylen Clark
67. Jacob Toppin
68. Mike MIles
69. Kobe Brown1+ - Posted on: Thu, 02/02/2023 - 12:34am #1258634
BothTeamsPlayedHard-ParticipantThrowing it out there, why is GG Jackson so much more highly regarded than Leonard Miller? In SEC play, Jackson is has horrible shooting splits (33.1% from the field, 26.9% from three on almost 6 attempted per, and 61.9% from the line). The only good games against winning teams came against UAB and Furman (neither of whom are high major programs). His turnover rate is high and isn’t as good of a rebounder as you would think. He looks the part, and has the measurables, but Miller does as well. Miller is from from an accomplished shooter, but his 16-61 is not much worse than Jackson. I’d throw Noah Clowney in as well. He has the physical makeup of Miller and Jackson, but is not as intriguing as Miller.
0- Posted on: Thu, 02/02/2023 - 5:29am #1258637
NorrinRaddParticipantLeonard Miller is raw still. He had 1st round buzz last year… until he got completely lost at the combine. That’s why he went to the GLeague Ignite. GG Jackson is probably going to be the youngest prospect in the draft. He’s doing pretty good against players older and more experienced college players. While Leonard Miller would have been the youngest prospect last year had he stayed, he wasn’t cutting it against competition. Infact his progression has been a bit slower than hoped as well. His draft range is about the same as it was last year atm because of his lack of consistency. Furman is a sneaky defensive team too btw. Jalen Slawson is a turnover creating machine. I’d consider GG a good bet on being the best big of this class outside of Wemby long term. Not sure if GG Jackson is exactly like Josh Smith, but if he has a Josh Smith like impact, that’s actually pretty good. I find it pretty funny that Jackson’s getting criticized for shooting splits when Keyonte George in many scouts head is the next Bradley Beal. His “form” is pretty. Lol! I think he’s more of a slightly better Cole Anthony myself. But he’s streaky. He can get hot one night and cold the next and isn’t shooting 40% from the floor. Cole Anthony isn’t a bad player and wasn’t a bad prospect. But I’ve seen (not necessarily on this site) on a lot of big boards Keyonte George in the 3-10 range. Really? Top 5 is a reach for a prospect like that.
Then there’s the Emoni Bates thing. So many people put the blame on Emoni and label this kid not coachable. Scouts are putting him anywhere from the 20s to undrafted from buzz I’m hearing, despite that crazy game he displayed against Toledo. Is it possible that Emoni and Penny just didn’t mesh well and it didn’t work and it’s nobody’s fault? I mean he was forced into playing point and now his camp has him playing iso ball. Lots of hate towards Emoni for some reason. He has skills in theory a coach could work with from his range and his handle. He’d be scary if he could play away from the ball. Not sure if he’s ever been in that scenario legitimately. I don’t think this kid’s Kevin Durant or anything like he was originally projected to be, but I do think he could develop into a similar player of a Brandon Ingram. That’s not bad if you can maximize that. But hey, Keyonte George is Bradley Beal. Ok.
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- Posted on: Thu, 02/02/2023 - 2:16am #1258635
armchairgmParticipantI see GG being a Josh Smith type player and Leonard Miller being like Perry Jones.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 02/02/2023 - 4:51am #1258636
HitsterParticipantLeonard would likely have been drafted later first round had he stayed in the draft last year. This year he needs to have kicked on but maybe hasn’t really done so. GG has a lot more value on the defensive end and was seen as a top 5 2024 prospect so he has come forward a year whilst Miller has waited a year hence people value GG’s upside more perhaps.
I too would have Leonard as late first riound with GG inside my top 10 somewhere between 6 and 10.
1+ - Posted on: Thu, 02/02/2023 - 7:36am #1258638
HitsterParticipantI fully agree with Norrin that GG is going to be the next specialist frontcourter drafted after Wemby. I’d class Kris Murray as a combo forward and he looks like being this year’s Keegan Murray. For the next frontcourt specialists you are then outside of the lottery for Noah Clowney so any team looking for a big may well have to trade down or reach. Hence I can see GG having high draft stock from those who have no chance of getting Wemby.
There are a number of combo forwards in this range and with fluid smallball line ups a lot will have the size to play frontcourt especially if the team has a decent defensive anchor or play smaller line ups.
I haven’t heard much about DaRon Holmes but he is listed on this sites first round. Dayton have beenm a bit off my radar since the postponed season when they were likely a very high seed I must admit.
1+- Posted on: Thu, 02/02/2023 - 11:14pm #1258639
NorrinRaddParticipantI saw a game earlier in the year with DaRon Holmes. I thought “UNC Asheville and Drew Pember could maybe be a good match up against DaRon Holmes and Dayton… Drew Pember scored 40 earlier in a game against Taylor Hendricks and UCF. Could be interesting.” – Not really. DaRon Holmes destroyed Pember and Dayton won. Then I concluded DaRon Holmes needs to be moved up on boards. He has a chance of being the first sophomore chosen on draft night. It could be Terquavion Smith or Maxwell Lewis or something, but why not Holmes? I could see the Heat drafting him and having him play next to Bam in bigger lineups. Some scenario like that anyways.
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- Posted on: Fri, 02/03/2023 - 2:11am #1258646
BothTeamsPlayedHard-ParticipantMiller is raw, but so is GG Jackson. That is my point. For Jackson to be taken in the lottery seems like quite the leap.
I get it. Once you get past three, there is a lot of uncertainty. I think the Thompsons need to rework their shots. The follow through to the right needs to be changed. Anthony Black does not excite me in the lottery. I suppose because Dyson Daniels went 8th, it isn’t out of the question, but I don’t think a team will get typical lottery returns. I don’t think Daniels has been a disaster, but when you take a guy like that at 8 you open the door to Alvarado mattering a lot. Rayan Rupert has not been good in the NBL, so if you take him you have to wait. Nick Smith has barely played, and who knows what a doctor might think of that knee. Whitehead was not as good as projected (wasn’t a great finisher at the rim or in the mid-range), and now is hurt. He still has the frame, athleticism, and showed to be more than capable as a catch-and-shoot guy to go early. I hope they don’t rush him back. Both Keyonte George and Jett Howard have had their ups and downs shooting, though they look better than the results. They also have a good feel for the game that makes them feel safer. Hendricks might be the second most productive “one-and-done” in the NCAA. Given the climate, I am ok with a guy with his physical makeup not really being a creator going quite early. Kris Murray has been good, but will being a 23-year old rookie cause him to drop? Whitmore has had more good than bad on a disappointing Villanova team, but has still only played 15 games so far.
1+ - Posted on: Fri, 02/03/2023 - 4:47am #1258649
HitsterParticipantThere is always a player who moves up late, we thought we’d got the top 4 locked last year then Keegan Murray moved up. I’m happy to assume Brandon Miller as pretty much a lock at 3. But then hell of a lot will depend on workouts I have players in a rough pecking order but I now never mock until we know who will be picking where or even post lottery.
Norrin thanks for the feedback on DaRon Holmes, I’ll try to watch some of his stuff this weekend.
As BTPH says a lot of guys in the lottery after the top 3 have some question marks about part of their game or NBA maturity so if some step up then the top 10 even top 5 could really start to move about and sort itself out in March Madness.
1+- Posted on: Tue, 02/07/2023 - 10:40pm #1258700
NorrinRaddParticipantAnother prospect to look out for is Toumani Camara. DaRon Holmes’ teammate is an older prospect, but he can play defense and knock down shots. Camara had a game last night too.
0- Posted on: Wed, 02/08/2023 - 7:07am #1258714
armchairgmParticipantI don’t know if he gets drafted, but I could def see him being an NBA player. He reminds me of a PJ Washington type of player.
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- Posted on: Wed, 02/08/2023 - 5:41am #1258709
HitsterParticipantCamara wouldn’t seem an obvious NBA prospect given he is turning 23 soon and hasn’t really dominated at college level. But he’d have a lot of defensive potential across a number of positions. Whether he’d get drafted I don’t know but he’ll get summer league and/or training camp invites and worsecase scenario he can return to Europe and get a pro contract there or elsewhere.
He has had a couple of big games recently and if he keeps that up will move up or onto possible workout lists.
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