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  • Posted on: Wed, 06/16/2021 - 4:44am #1249269
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    First off, recorded this before knowing anything about Kawhi Leonard’s injury status and the now indefinitely absence of Chris Paul in COVID-19 protocols. Those are both terrible, this season is an absolute mess. However, what I did want to address was the incredibly disingenuous notion that Chris Paul is “anti-analytics” with his midrange shooting. They pretty much could not have used a worse player to make this case about, seeing that he has for his entire career been one of the best elbow, midrange shooters in the NBA. Pull-up shooting is still a huge factor among the best players, winning teams and if you are good at shooting them, it is fine that you take them!

    https://youtu.be/TWTG61YOdUw

    Analytics is really about trying to find the best shots to take. If you are Chris Paul, Kyrie Irving, Joel Embiid, Nikola Jokic, DeMar DeRozan and Kawhi Leonard, those shots include midrange pull-ups or shots. To many people have tried to demonize analytics as it tries to fight something that even the anti-analytics crowd does not care for, which is hero ball. We discussed this as well as All-Defense and All-NBA, plus the crazy notion of how much money it cost Jayson Tatum, Donovan Mitchell and Bam Adebayo.

    So, who do you want taking midrange jump shots? Are there players you wish would shoot fewer, or are you of the school that any open shot is a good shot, no matter what percentages or points per possession say? Do you buy this “death of the midrange game”, or are you on board with trying to maximize efficiency on a possession by possession basis? Either way, would love to hear thoughts. Also, any snubs in terms of All-Defense or All-NBA you want to bring up? Would anyone have voted Anthony Edwards over LaMelo Ball for ROY (I would not have)?

    Let me know, if you could subscribe, like or comment on my video, would be greatly appreciated. Big thanks to everyone who read my articles on Pro Insight after Pangos All-American Camp, still content to come from that!

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  • Posted on: Wed, 06/16/2021 - 9:04am #1249274
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    My take is, the problem isn’t the midrange shot itself — CP3 and all the other guys you mentioned are accurate enough with it, and get fouled enough attempting it, that it’s an efficient shot for them.

    The problem is what happens before the shot, which in the case of midrange jumpers is usually several seconds of iso dribbling. This means no ball movement, and a lot of times little or no player movement on offense. So yes, it is an efficient shot, but it amounts to giving up on *more efficient* shots, like wide-open catch-and-shoot jumpers, or layups by guys cutting to the basket.

    You get those things with constant ball movement and player movement, which is how most championship teams over the last 10 years or so have played.

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