Wall or Griffin

“The game is changing into a guards game where its better to be quick than big,
but big men do win championships”

that seems contradictory

Gimme Wall.

garnett and perkins are 4’s and 5’s and so are gasol and bynum….

Deron Williams and the Jazz are fourth in the West. Struggling to make the playoffs? Hahaha. I lol all over you.

OH, I know that

but the new era is SF, PF era

Garnett & Perkins

Gasol & Bynum

Lebron, Carmelo etc

Rudy Gay, Randolph, Gasol

the best PG is struggling to make the playoffs! (chris Paul)

John Wall has more potential to be a mismatch and impact the floor both ways

and PF is hardest position to dominate

but I just thought that the new era of combo guards isnt really replacing the frontcourt players in Impact

Jazz suck gorilla dingle berries

Don’t forget that the Jazz have Boozer (a PF who is Jazz’s leading scorer and rebounder) and have been winning lately thanks to Kirilenko’s (a SF) outstanding play.

Wow this is pretty close…. Wall is gonna put up better numbers, but big men like Griffin are the key to winning titles.

lol..theres no new era with any position. if you are very good o rgreat and have a team around you then you can win a title reguardless what position you play. with that said id take blake right now. maybe id pick wall after watching him play as a soph but since one is a freshman and the other was a soph i cant really completely compare

with churchboy. if you look at past championship teams..they all have dominant big men, Lakers have Gasol and Bynum, Celtics have KG and Perkins, Spurs have Tim Duncan, Lakers prior had Shaq, Michael Jordans’ Bulls’ aside (who had great frountcourt role players like Rodman, Longley, Cartwright, Horace Grant, etc.) most teams have had a good PF/C and Swingman (Kobe, Pierce, Ginobili) Perfect example is the 07 Warriors, they had an amazing backcourt with Baron Davis, Jason Richardson, Stephen Jackson, but they didn’t have the bigmen to work against Carlos Boozer and other good bigmen

exactly you dont need great big men or great guards or fowards to win a title. lakers had great big men and a great guards, detroit had a bunch of good players but not great, chicago had good not great big men and great guards/foward. you dont ave to have a dominate anything to win a title

griffin will be like oden… something tells me that….

“exactly you dont need great big men or great guards or fowards to win a title.”

then how come everybody complains about the Pau Gasol trade

“detroit had a bunch of good players but not great”

Chauncey Billups all-star
Rip Hamilton 3x all-star
Tayshaun Prince
Rasheed Wallace all-star
Ben Wallace all-star

I’m not sold about what kind of player Griffin will be in the league. I dont have a leg to stand on but I just feel like Wall is a hybrid of Rose and Wade. Cant get much better than that. I see him as a top 5 player in 5 years.

I’d take Wall. He seems to have that D.Wade feel to him. I think he can be a 1st option scorer and be a 7 or 8 assist player. Griffin will be very good, probably an outstanding role player who can be an All-Star, but something tells me Wall could develop into a top player in the NBA. Like, I see his potential being something like a top 10 player in basketball or higher..That may just be me though…

The Pistons have been proven to be an aberration. They played the most dysfuctional group of superstars ever assembled, and had one of the most clutch PGs maybe of all time, a premier low post defender, a versitle talent PF, an excellent well rounded SF, and one of the most efficient SG of the past 15 years. They had a complete team, but most of the time (actually 98%) you need at least one HoF caliber player. It helps if they’re big. The Bulls dynasty had the best two perimeter players and defenders of their era (for the premier post players, Horace Grant was very good, Rodman was unequivocally great). Do you think Kobe+ Lebron wouldnt win multiple championships?

As for the Wall-Griffin argument. If Griffin stays healthy he will produce. That being said, Wall strikes me as a 6’4 Iverson (AI was better finisher around the rim, but their skillsets are remarkably similar.) To me, its all about positional preference until we’ve seen them both at the NBA level. I’d take Wall personally, but that doesnt mean he’ll be better.

Griffin anyday

IF healthy… Give me Blake. He’s a 15 and 10 player his first season, especially considering the fact Camby won’t be back.