[HitsterParticipant]

 Sean Marks the Nets GM has inherited a 21-61 team. He has only one first round pick in the next 3 drafts which Boston will likely flip. What moves do you make to try and improve the team. Doing a Hinkie only aids the Celtics.

If you trade Brook Lopez then the team may struggle even more. Thad Young may have trade value but again it’s one of your better players. Jarrett Jack has a $6.3 million team option which may have trade value too.

I’ve tried to think up what moves Sean could do to try and keep the team respectable and not give everything to Boston but I cannot cannot come up with anything I think can really work.

What would you guys do?

 

 

 

[doubledribblerParticipant]

I would completely start over. I would get the best deal for all the guys you mentioned. Losing isn’t going to help them, but there is no time machine to fix the Boston or any other past trade. Lopez has an injury history and the other guys likely won’t be around once things start getting turned around. Trades and free agency seems like the only way for them to get some assets. I would look for bargains and not overpay anyone. I would assume the team is years away from being competitive.

[doubledribblerParticipant]

I would completely start over. I would get the best deal for all the guys you mentioned. Losing isn’t going to help them, but there is no time machine to fix the Boston or any other past trade. Lopez has an injury history and the other guys likely won’t be around once things start getting turned around. Trades and free agency seems like the only way for them to get some assets. I would look for bargains and not overpay anyone. I would assume the team is years away from being competitive.

[220Participant]

 Agreed. Trading Brook Lopez, Thaddeus Young, and other vets for numerous good young players may be beneficial in the short term and long term. It certainly doesn’t benefit to purposefully get bad, but why keep guys with trade value only to lose and have their value diminish. Immediately find players who fit the team mold you’re trying to build and look for value pickups in free agency since no stars will be coming.

[220Participant]

 Agreed. Trading Brook Lopez, Thaddeus Young, and other vets for numerous good young players may be beneficial in the short term and long term. It certainly doesn’t benefit to purposefully get bad, but why keep guys with trade value only to lose and have their value diminish. Immediately find players who fit the team mold you’re trying to build and look for value pickups in free agency since no stars will be coming.

[BiggysmallsParticipant]

 Sign as many bandaid free agents as possible for two or three years. You can either be competitive as possible until you don’t owe picks anymore with a group like that, or you can hope to hit on a few signings, and flip them for picks around the deadline. When you don’t owe picks anymore…then hit the reset button. 

My free agent wishlist if I’m Brooklyn looks like this: Guys trying to rebuild value or guys that might rather put up big numbers on a lesser team than take a bench role. 

Pg: Brandon Jennings, Ty Lawson

SG: Lance Stephenson

SF: Jeff Green

PF: not sure they need one, as they’ve got a decent guy in Young and some okay youngsters. 

C: Not sure who you can find as a backup Center, but if they can find a Biyombo type backup option, that’d make a lot of sense. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[BiggysmallsParticipant]

 Sign as many bandaid free agents as possible for two or three years. You can either be competitive as possible until you don’t owe picks anymore with a group like that, or you can hope to hit on a few signings, and flip them for picks around the deadline. When you don’t owe picks anymore…then hit the reset button. 

My free agent wishlist if I’m Brooklyn looks like this: Guys trying to rebuild value or guys that might rather put up big numbers on a lesser team than take a bench role. 

Pg: Brandon Jennings, Ty Lawson

SG: Lance Stephenson

SF: Jeff Green

PF: not sure they need one, as they’ve got a decent guy in Young and some okay youngsters. 

C: Not sure who you can find as a backup Center, but if they can find a Biyombo type backup option, that’d make a lot of sense. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[ThenilonatorParticipant]

 John Henson is someone I’d target too. Has only shown flashes but could thrive with more minutes

[ThenilonatorParticipant]

 John Henson is someone I’d target too. Has only shown flashes but could thrive with more minutes

[ditotayParticipant]

I agree with you. Don’t commit to long term free agents. Just short contracts on players eager to prove they value in a league with a higher salary cap. Try to trade their best players for decent young players plus lottery draft picks and start from the beginning.

[ditotayParticipant]

I agree with you. Don’t commit to long term free agents. Just short contracts on players eager to prove they value in a league with a higher salary cap. Try to trade their best players for decent young players plus lottery draft picks and start from the beginning.

[WetalkinboutpracticeParticipant]

Hunt restricted free agents & offer slightly above market value but only in shorter term contracts (2-3years). Tough defensive minded players who can hit perimeter shots. Guys like Moe Harkless(NY native) & Matthew Dellavedova come to mind.

[WetalkinboutpracticeParticipant]

Hunt restricted free agents & offer slightly above market value but only in shorter term contracts (2-3years). Tough defensive minded players who can hit perimeter shots. Guys like Moe Harkless(NY native) & Matthew Dellavedova come to mind.

[ExumInfernoParticipant]

 If you are Sean Marks, you have to forget about Boston and forget about Billy King.  Giving Boston three first overall picks or giving them three picks between 5 and 10 doesn’t change things for the Nets.  There is only one thing he can do, look to the future.

Trade any assets, which means Lopez and Young, and get first rounders for 2019 and following years.  Also use the money he has to spend the next three years to take in contracts, and also receive picks and young players for doing that.

Overspending now for Luol Deng and Jeremy Lin isn’t going to help them in the long term.  

What the Nets will do, probably overspend and miss the playoffs and don’t have anything for the future by keeping Lopez until he breaks down with injury.

You can still put a young and exciting team on the floor when losing, and maybe discover some hidden undrafted stars for the next few seasons.  If all the Nets do is give Joe Johnson money to Brandon Jennings this offseason, then Marks has failed if the idea is to win a championship there.

 

 

[ExumInfernoParticipant]

 If you are Sean Marks, you have to forget about Boston and forget about Billy King.  Giving Boston three first overall picks or giving them three picks between 5 and 10 doesn’t change things for the Nets.  There is only one thing he can do, look to the future.

Trade any assets, which means Lopez and Young, and get first rounders for 2019 and following years.  Also use the money he has to spend the next three years to take in contracts, and also receive picks and young players for doing that.

Overspending now for Luol Deng and Jeremy Lin isn’t going to help them in the long term.  

What the Nets will do, probably overspend and miss the playoffs and don’t have anything for the future by keeping Lopez until he breaks down with injury.

You can still put a young and exciting team on the floor when losing, and maybe discover some hidden undrafted stars for the next few seasons.  If all the Nets do is give Joe Johnson money to Brandon Jennings this offseason, then Marks has failed if the idea is to win a championship there.

 

 

[VRod305Participant]

Get all the draft picks back that Billy King gave away. Oh wait, he can’t.

[VRod305Participant]

Get all the draft picks back that Billy King gave away. Oh wait, he can’t.

[BleedGreen808Participant]

 From the moves that Marks has made so far he seems to be focusing on player development.  He already found a nice player out of the d-league in Sean Kilpatrick.  He’s finished setting up the Long Island Nets so now they can put players on assignment whenever it’s needed.  Hiring Kenny Atkinson was a nice move and he’s helped players like Jeremy Lin and Kent Bazemore with their development.  I can’t see the biggest names like Durant, Horford, Conley, etc. considering the Nets in free agency.  Their best option is trying to get team friendly deals for young players.  

[BleedGreen808Participant]

 From the moves that Marks has made so far he seems to be focusing on player development.  He already found a nice player out of the d-league in Sean Kilpatrick.  He’s finished setting up the Long Island Nets so now they can put players on assignment whenever it’s needed.  Hiring Kenny Atkinson was a nice move and he’s helped players like Jeremy Lin and Kent Bazemore with their development.  I can’t see the biggest names like Durant, Horford, Conley, etc. considering the Nets in free agency.  Their best option is trying to get team friendly deals for young players.  

[BleedGreen808Participant]

 Also don’t forget towards the end of the season he shut down Lopez and Young.  That was a big part of why the Nets ended up with the 3rd worst record instead of 4th.  That told me he wasn’t concerned with how good the pick they give to Boston is.  Making sure those two were players healthy going into the offseason could mean he’s open to moving them.  

[BleedGreen808Participant]

 Also don’t forget towards the end of the season he shut down Lopez and Young.  That was a big part of why the Nets ended up with the 3rd worst record instead of 4th.  That told me he wasn’t concerned with how good the pick they give to Boston is.  Making sure those two were players healthy going into the offseason could mean he’s open to moving them.  

[publius2481Participant]

This offseason I would focus on restricted free agents and free agents 27 and younger. First, these type of players serve as a foundation to build a playoff team and second, these type of players would have trade value later on. Among unrestricted free agents I would target: Kent Bazemore, Evan Turner, Nicolas Batum, Chandler Parsons, Lance Stephenson, Bismack Biyombo, and DeMar DeRozan. Among restricted free agents I would target: Harrison Barnes, Festus Ezeli, Terrence Jones, Jordan Clarkson, Andrew Nicholson, Evan Fournier, Allen Crabbe, and Meyers Leonard. Obviously they will not sign most of these, but they need to cast a wide net. Now the key is they cannot vastly overpay for free agents (a slight overpay for a young free agent is tolerable). I would also not trade Young or Lopez because realistically I do not think you can get a top ten pick for either, so trading them will not vastly speed up any rebuild.

[publius2481Participant]

This offseason I would focus on restricted free agents and free agents 27 and younger. First, these type of players serve as a foundation to build a playoff team and second, these type of players would have trade value later on. Among unrestricted free agents I would target: Kent Bazemore, Evan Turner, Nicolas Batum, Chandler Parsons, Lance Stephenson, Bismack Biyombo, and DeMar DeRozan. Among restricted free agents I would target: Harrison Barnes, Festus Ezeli, Terrence Jones, Jordan Clarkson, Andrew Nicholson, Evan Fournier, Allen Crabbe, and Meyers Leonard. Obviously they will not sign most of these, but they need to cast a wide net. Now the key is they cannot vastly overpay for free agents (a slight overpay for a young free agent is tolerable). I would also not trade Young or Lopez because realistically I do not think you can get a top ten pick for either, so trading them will not vastly speed up any rebuild.

[TheGuyParticipant]

 Sell high on Lopez and Young for draft picks/young players. Take flyers on high profile players who’s stock are low like Rose.

[TheGuyParticipant]

 Sell high on Lopez and Young for draft picks/young players. Take flyers on high profile players who’s stock are low like Rose.

[chrispaulwallParticipant]

i’d try to pry mo harkless away from portland in RFA.

 

 hes so young and hes already pretty good and contributing to a playoff team. moves like that help you down the line, instead of getting guys like jeff green and ty lawson who don’t really have much of a future left.

[chrispaulwallParticipant]

i’d try to pry mo harkless away from portland in RFA.

 

 hes so young and hes already pretty good and contributing to a playoff team. moves like that help you down the line, instead of getting guys like jeff green and ty lawson who don’t really have much of a future left.

[tblazer_NZParticipant]

The Nets have that type of player in Rondae Hollis Jefferson

[tblazer_NZParticipant]

The Nets have that type of player in Rondae Hollis Jefferson

[PurpleMonkeyDishwasherParticipant]

 The Nets are screwed… after the Garnett and Paul Pierce trade there is not much they can do until the draftpick nightmare is over.  The Nets would have been better off getting busted for signing Joe Smith to a illegal contract that making that trade for 2 players in their late 30’s. 

[PurpleMonkeyDishwasherParticipant]

 The Nets are screwed… after the Garnett and Paul Pierce trade there is not much they can do until the draftpick nightmare is over.  The Nets would have been better off getting busted for signing Joe Smith to a illegal contract that making that trade for 2 players in their late 30’s. 

[PurpleMonkeyDishwasherParticipant]

 The Nets are screwed… after the Garnett and Paul Pierce trade there is not much they can do until the draftpick nightmare is over.  The Nets would have been better off getting busted for signing Joe Smith to a illegal contract that making that trade for 2 players in their late 30’s. 

[PurpleMonkeyDishwasherParticipant]

 The Nets are screwed… after the Garnett and Paul Pierce trade there is not much they can do until the draftpick nightmare is over.  The Nets would have been better off getting busted for signing Joe Smith to a illegal contract that making that trade for 2 players in their late 30’s. 

[Mr. HookShotParticipant]

Look for young players stuck on the bench for good teams in exchange for some of their steady veterans (Lopez, Jack, Young, Bogdanovic). Here are some options (not all at the same time obviously):

– CJ Wilcox (LAC)
– Steven Adams (OKC) –> Maybe for Lopez?
– Dion Waiters (OKC, RFA) –> Sign and trade
– Mitch McGary (OKC)
– Harrison Barnes (GSW, RFA) –> Sign and trade

 

[Mr. HookShotParticipant]

Look for young players stuck on the bench for good teams in exchange for some of their steady veterans (Lopez, Jack, Young, Bogdanovic). Here are some options (not all at the same time obviously):

– CJ Wilcox (LAC)
– Steven Adams (OKC) –> Maybe for Lopez?
– Dion Waiters (OKC, RFA) –> Sign and trade
– Mitch McGary (OKC)
– Harrison Barnes (GSW, RFA) –> Sign and trade

 

[HitsterParticipant]

 Thanks for all the feedback guys, some very interesting ideas. The Nets will have cap space but no top FA would go there and they would be behind other teams with similar win loss records in the FA stakes if they did trade Lopez,

But Lopez would have decent trade value as a skilled big man aged 28 with 2 years on his deal and as his contract winds down  then his trade value reduces. So it makes sense for them to trade high. Ideally the Nets would love to get some picks back from Boston but Danny Ainge has so many options and has fleeced them once so giving up Lopez to them could be a bridge too far and Ainge would not hand a load of assets back.

If DMC does move on then Lopez could really come into play would the Kings consider him I wonder. Also Charlotte had a very good season and adding Lopez could be attractive to them. The Knicks have his twin brother and might want to pair the Lopez twins around Porz in the frontcourt, they could send future picks over.

Thad Young has 3 years on his deal and is a solid starter so would have good trade value. Toronto need a PF so might part with a first rounder or two. I don’t see them parting with their nice high pick this year for Thad though.

 

 

 

[HitsterParticipant]

 Thanks for all the feedback guys, some very interesting ideas. The Nets will have cap space but no top FA would go there and they would be behind other teams with similar win loss records in the FA stakes if they did trade Lopez,

But Lopez would have decent trade value as a skilled big man aged 28 with 2 years on his deal and as his contract winds down  then his trade value reduces. So it makes sense for them to trade high. Ideally the Nets would love to get some picks back from Boston but Danny Ainge has so many options and has fleeced them once so giving up Lopez to them could be a bridge too far and Ainge would not hand a load of assets back.

If DMC does move on then Lopez could really come into play would the Kings consider him I wonder. Also Charlotte had a very good season and adding Lopez could be attractive to them. The Knicks have his twin brother and might want to pair the Lopez twins around Porz in the frontcourt, they could send future picks over.

Thad Young has 3 years on his deal and is a solid starter so would have good trade value. Toronto need a PF so might part with a first rounder or two. I don’t see them parting with their nice high pick this year for Thad though.

 

 

 

[BiggysmallsParticipant]

 Realistically, they aren’t going to win a championship in the next 5 or so years anyways. They don’t have picks that would make bottoming out worth it, so you make the best of the situation, sign guys to "prove-it" deals and try to at least compete. I don’t mean compete for a title, but compete enough to put asses in the seats. That’s the best they can do. Signing 27 year old guys isn’t going to do anything because when the team is ready to win, that guy would be past his prime. 

signing big name restricted guys to big deals isn’t going to do anything because by the time the team is ready to bottom out again, that player would be on the last year of his restricted deal.

Sign the best players you can now to short-term deals, maximize their value and either flip them for picks or young players in their rookie deals. 

If they didn’t owe all their picks to Boston, the rebuild could happen now and I’d say tank Philly-style. But they are stuck in a stupid limbo because of idiot GMing…make the most of it and try to field a competitive team if only to make a profit. 

 

 

 

[BiggysmallsParticipant]

 Realistically, they aren’t going to win a championship in the next 5 or so years anyways. They don’t have picks that would make bottoming out worth it, so you make the best of the situation, sign guys to "prove-it" deals and try to at least compete. I don’t mean compete for a title, but compete enough to put asses in the seats. That’s the best they can do. Signing 27 year old guys isn’t going to do anything because when the team is ready to win, that guy would be past his prime. 

signing big name restricted guys to big deals isn’t going to do anything because by the time the team is ready to bottom out again, that player would be on the last year of his restricted deal.

Sign the best players you can now to short-term deals, maximize their value and either flip them for picks or young players in their rookie deals. 

If they didn’t owe all their picks to Boston, the rebuild could happen now and I’d say tank Philly-style. But they are stuck in a stupid limbo because of idiot GMing…make the most of it and try to field a competitive team if only to make a profit. 

 

 

 

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