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- Posted on: Fri, 05/24/2013 - 3:40am #49294
aramboneParticipantI can see the argument for taking Cody number 1, but would it be too redundant with Tyler already there? How similar are their games? Both are light weight for center, and Thompson is getting better every year. Any way two Zellers could work long term in Cleveland?
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/24/2013 - 4:10am #781853
SpacegrassParticipantYes it would be like drafting the same guy all over again. Cody is a little more athletic but Tyler is better in the post. Outside of that it would make little sense to me.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/24/2013 - 4:10am #781922
SpacegrassParticipantYes it would be like drafting the same guy all over again. Cody is a little more athletic but Tyler is better in the post. Outside of that it would make little sense to me.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/24/2013 - 4:50am #781873
KHAM83ParticipantTheir games are similar yes, but Tyler is more a center while Cody is more a pf IMO. But they should only consider Cody if for some reason they want to trade Thompson. Cody isn’t a sure fire future all-star thatll make them want to give up on Thompson already.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/24/2013 - 4:50am #781942
KHAM83ParticipantTheir games are similar yes, but Tyler is more a center while Cody is more a pf IMO. But they should only consider Cody if for some reason they want to trade Thompson. Cody isn’t a sure fire future all-star thatll make them want to give up on Thompson already.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/24/2013 - 6:09am #781961
SiggyParticipantTyler’s a better shooter, while Cody is a better face up driver.
I think it would work offensively since they’re both smart and skilled, but I’d rather have someone better defensively to complement Cody. I think Cody can be a decent position defender. He has the lateral quicks and awareness to slide over, cut off angles and draw charges, but with his length he won’t be a rim protector and he’ll get shot over in the post.0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/24/2013 - 6:09am #782031
SiggyParticipantTyler’s a better shooter, while Cody is a better face up driver.
I think it would work offensively since they’re both smart and skilled, but I’d rather have someone better defensively to complement Cody. I think Cody can be a decent position defender. He has the lateral quicks and awareness to slide over, cut off angles and draw charges, but with his length he won’t be a rim protector and he’ll get shot over in the post.0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/24/2013 - 10:07am #782144
Sewok15ParticipantThere is no argument for taking Cody Zeller #1. I don’t know where this is coming from?
0- Posted on: Fri, 05/24/2013 - 10:34am #782168
aramboneParticipantpositional value, offensive balance for cleveland, safe pick, high character, untapped potential, athletic on help d when kyrie and dion get beat, might be had after a trade down, a bit of positional versatility to play center, starred one state over in indiana, could draw fans to empty arena, noel could be as injury prone as varajao, marketing angle with the two brothers, thomspon showed some ability to play center and tyler should get stronger and do better at center in 2nd year. Young deep frontline that can outrun most other frontlines, immediate impact vs half season or more for noel to be ready, frontcourt scoring means only a defensive sf, a taller sg, and a backup pg like kabango could be drafted with picks 19 (snell?), 31 (leslie?) and 33 (kabongo?), trade down from number one could next some extra value.
That’s a number of reasons to discuss it. Plus, pre-season number ones often get picked apart and hated on just from over-exposure, like when rudy gay went 8th just for not being super assertive. I think Zeller might be getting punished a bit, and noel is riding anthony davis’ coattails a bit.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/24/2013 - 10:34am #782239
aramboneParticipantpositional value, offensive balance for cleveland, safe pick, high character, untapped potential, athletic on help d when kyrie and dion get beat, might be had after a trade down, a bit of positional versatility to play center, starred one state over in indiana, could draw fans to empty arena, noel could be as injury prone as varajao, marketing angle with the two brothers, thomspon showed some ability to play center and tyler should get stronger and do better at center in 2nd year. Young deep frontline that can outrun most other frontlines, immediate impact vs half season or more for noel to be ready, frontcourt scoring means only a defensive sf, a taller sg, and a backup pg like kabango could be drafted with picks 19 (snell?), 31 (leslie?) and 33 (kabongo?), trade down from number one could next some extra value.
That’s a number of reasons to discuss it. Plus, pre-season number ones often get picked apart and hated on just from over-exposure, like when rudy gay went 8th just for not being super assertive. I think Zeller might be getting punished a bit, and noel is riding anthony davis’ coattails a bit.
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- Posted on: Fri, 05/24/2013 - 10:07am #782214
Sewok15ParticipantThere is no argument for taking Cody Zeller #1. I don’t know where this is coming from?
0 - Posted on: Sun, 05/26/2013 - 8:06am #783676
Sewok15Participant1.3 Blocks per game doesn’t really scream shot blocking center. Amir Williams from OSU averaged more blocks in almost half the minutes. He can’t finish inside through contact. He doesn’t have great range on his jump shot. He has a history of mental let downs on the court. He is big and athletic but there are plenty of guys like that around. He just didn’t look as smooth or explosive in his 2nd year in Bloomington. I didn’t think he had a shot to go first overall coming into the year but now I know he really doesn’t. This thread is like the twilight zone.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 05/26/2013 - 8:06am #783743
Sewok15Participant1.3 Blocks per game doesn’t really scream shot blocking center. Amir Williams from OSU averaged more blocks in almost half the minutes. He can’t finish inside through contact. He doesn’t have great range on his jump shot. He has a history of mental let downs on the court. He is big and athletic but there are plenty of guys like that around. He just didn’t look as smooth or explosive in his 2nd year in Bloomington. I didn’t think he had a shot to go first overall coming into the year but now I know he really doesn’t. This thread is like the twilight zone.
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