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- Posted on: Thu, 09/16/2010 - 8:47pm #21646
CodySLCParticipantI think its gotta be the Cavs.They lost the heart and soul of the franchise. No LeBron and no one to help fill the void. I see things getting really ugly for Cleavland. For the Cavs sake, lets hope Harrison Barnes is the real deal.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 09/16/2010 - 8:55pm #403559
RUDEBOY_ParticipantI expect the Cavs to win about 20 to 23 games next season…
I expect the T-Wolves to be the worst team in the league..0 - Posted on: Thu, 09/16/2010 - 9:07pm #403560
llperezi think wolves and raptors will both be below the cavs. Jamison and mowill can both score and they still have some decent role players that will play hard and defend.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 09/17/2010 - 1:31am #403568
Mr. JewboyParticipantif the raptors couldn’t make the playoffs with chris bosh, then just imagine how bad they’ll be without him
on the other hand, the cavs had the best record for two years in a row, so no way that without lebron they’ll be worse than the raps without bosh0 - Posted on: Fri, 09/17/2010 - 2:20am #403569
Cardinal_FanParticipantThe Wolves and Raptors have more indiviual talent then the cavs, i think Jamison will be the only player that can consistently create his own offense. Mo Williams has always played well but off of other stars. He will get alot more attention defensively seeing that he will now be the most legit peremiter scoring threat. The Cavs will probably have the worst record hands down.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 09/17/2010 - 5:10am #403570
NorthernLights666Participant30 wins, I don’t think the Raptors, Warriors, Cavs, Nets, or Kings will win more than 30.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 09/17/2010 - 5:17am #403571
sammybuckeye13ParticipantRaptors lineup:
PG – Jose Calerdon: 10.3 ppg 5.9 apg
(or)
Jarrett Jack: 11.4 ppg 5 apgSG – DeMar DeRozan: 8.6 ppg 2.9 rpg
SF – Linas Kleiz: 9.9 ppg 4 rpg (in 08-09 last NBA season)
PF – Amir Johnson: 6.2 ppg 4.8 rpg
C – Andrea Bargnani: 17.2 ppg 6.2 rpgYuh-oh.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 09/17/2010 - 5:24am #403573
Snubs15ParticipantI see raptors winning maybe 20 – 25 games max and same with cleveland.
Twolves, and warriors are both better than raps an cavs.
Who did the nets add this offseason? cause im pretty sure they will still be crap and have one of the worst records with raps an cavs0 - Posted on: Fri, 09/17/2010 - 5:38am #403576
NashyMingParticipantRaptors probably won’t be good, but I think the Twolves would have the worst records.
They have many young players with potential, but inexperienced and they are trying to play triangle offense (which is the hardest offense system to learn to play efficiently).
The Twolves should improve, but with that roster and the triangle offense, I see many losses.
Ridnor / Flynn / Telfair
Webster / Brewer / Ellington
Beasley / Johnson / Hayward
Love / Tolliver
Milicic / Pekovic / KoufosI doubt this young team can win many games.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 09/17/2010 - 5:44am #403578
NashyMingParticipantRaptors is probably one of the worst 5 and Jay Triano is not good enough coach to lead this average team to win much, but this team indeed has some vets and a few solid role players.
Jack / Calderon / Banks
DeRozan / Barbosa
Kleiza / Weems / Wright
Bargnani / Davis / Evans
Johnson / Andersen / Alabi / DorseyIt can probably squeeze a few more wins than the young Twolves.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 09/17/2010 - 5:49am #403579
omphalosParticipantWolves won’t be the worst team, I know that much. They added a veteran PG in Ridnour, a huge talent in Beasley, and solved the dilemma at the 4 by trading away Jefferson. Don’t forget that Kevin Love will be invigorated after a win in the FIBA world cup.
Keep in mind that they are younger than the Cavs too; I can’t help but feel its a lot easier for a young team to get better after a down season (see: Thunder) than a veteran team that lost its star to stay afloat.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 09/17/2010 - 5:55am #403582
NashyMingParticipantThe Cavs got a solid roster. An aging but still decent Jamison, a solid starting PG in Mo Williams, and a few solid veterans that would play defense. Also Bryan Scott is a good enough coach to keep this team competitive. Although they will likely miss the playoff, they should not be too bad.
Williams / Session / Gibson
Parker / Green / Eyenga
Jamison / Moon / Graham
Hickson / Powe / Samuels
Varejao / HollinsThe Bobcats got a pretty weak roster outside of G-Force and Captain Jack (big holes at PG and C), but Larry Brown is a good enough coach to get the players to play better than 100% of their abilities. I certainly see they will miss the playoff, but they should also be competitive.
The Pacers does not look too good either, but the team has a star in Danny Granger and a potential breakout candidate in Collison. I think they will get rid of Lance Stephenson as soon as they can as they cannot take chance on another reputation hit.
These three teams should all have better records than Raptors or TWolves.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 09/17/2010 - 5:57am #403584
NashyMingParticipantThe Twolves would get better, but I think it will take another year.
You look at the Thunder in the first two years. Great talent in Durrant. Solid in the then rookie Westbrook and 2nd year Green, they were still one of the worst team in the league.
They broke out in the 3rd year and finally make the playoff. It takes time for young players to develop and that’s called growing pain. The Twolves has talent, but not enough experiences to be competitive yet.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 09/17/2010 - 6:12am #403589
omphalosParticipantI’m not saying this is the year for the Wolves to make a Thunder-type leap, but they have a better roster than last season, and they weren’t the worst team then.
Cavs or Raptors have got to be my favourites. Jamison is simply too slow to keep up with 3s on D, there’s no telling how Hickson will react to the increased pressure and Parker struggles to create his own shot. This team was built around Lebron, don’t expect it to be intact come the trade deadline. Byron Scott is a redeeming factor I’ll admit.
As for the Raptors, they are in shambles and it is still a year or two before DeRozan matures enough as a player to lead them. They don’t have a Byron Scott as coach either. They are going down to the bottom; maybe they’ll be able to pick up Kyrie Irving or Brandon Knight in the draft next season.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 09/17/2010 - 6:51am #403605
llperezi think the nets will be quite a bit better. Devin harris was real inconsistent last year and now that hes healthy he is still a borderline all-star. Brook is only getting better. Going from jianlinan who was injured off and on to troy murphy is a very solid upgrade. Outlaw, farmar and morrow are all capable of providing offense. Terrence Williams is getting better. I think they are close to 30 wins.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 09/17/2010 - 7:08am #403606
joecheck88Participanti think its too close to pick just one team. argument can be made for all teams, like cavs have very good vets, twolves have lots of young guys, toronto could have breakout years from derozan and amir johnson. i think that minny could be the worst, someone mentioned its easier for a young team to bounce back but they have so many new faces and they dont have a durant type player to carry them. i think minny could be the worst and has the best chance of being the worst followed by the cavs, raps and a darkhorse bad team for me are the detroit pistons. i know they were already bad but i can see them in the top 5 worst teams this year.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 09/17/2010 - 7:17am #403609
SwatLakeCityParticipantI really don’t think the Wolves will be any better than last year. I don’t think the combo of Love and Beasley will work out. They are about the same player but Love gets more boards than Beasley, other than that, they have the same game. The Wolves really need to consider trading Beasley to maybe the Pacers. After they got rid of Troy Murphy, they really don’t have any PF’s left Both Hansbrough and McRoberts are bench players to me.
The worst team is really a tie between the Wolves, Cavs, and Raptors. And Sammy Buckeye, I believe the Raptors will start Barbosa at SG and Derozan at SF. Klieza is more suited as a backup.
Calderon/Jack
Barbosa
Derozan
Amir Johnson
Bargnani0 - Posted on: Fri, 09/17/2010 - 8:14am #403616
torontoraptors10ParticipantI can honestly see DeRozan averaging more then 8.6 ppg. He will be averaging around 13-17ppg. I think Barbosa will come off the bench and be a first option for the scoring.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 09/17/2010 - 8:18am #403618
joecheck88Participantya barbosa off the bench makes sense. toronto has some strong pieces. while they are probably lottery bound, i think they will beat some good teams some nights.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 09/17/2010 - 8:23am #403620
torontoraptors10ParticipantHopefully we get a high chance for a lottery pick and we get one of the top 3 spots. I don’t mind Barnes or Jones on the Raptors!
Bargnani
Davis
Jones/Barnes
DeRozan
JackWe are already so down, things can only go up for the Raptors!
0 - Posted on: Fri, 09/17/2010 - 8:31am #403621
stanford hoopsY’all are sleeping on the cavs. Unlike the raptors the cavs had a very solid team with lebron. Guys who can play very good d. They should be up there with the sixers. Mo Williams and Antwan have proved they can get 20ppg. Hickson can get double figures as well and varoja gives you double figures as well as Parker. On top of great team defense. I’m with most basketball minds in thatthe cavs are better then people think
0 - Posted on: Fri, 09/17/2010 - 9:37am #403633
BasterdInABasketParticipantThat doesnt mean much for getting the #1 pick though. Still a 75% chance of NOT getting the top pick with the worst record
0 - Posted on: Fri, 09/17/2010 - 9:41am #403634
NorthernLights666ParticipantThere’s a reason you have so many negative points, I assume you’re a youngster because you’re a complete moron. Trade Beasley to Indiana, for who? Brandon Rush? You’re an idiot, how could the Wolves not be any better? They legitimately had 5 or 6 players on their roster last year that will probably never play in the League ever again, Pecherov, Jawai, Pavlovic, Wilkins, and Ryan Hollins – after his contract is done with Cleveland, and Brian Cardinal and replaced them with actual players in Wes Johnson, Martell Webster, Pekovic, and Tolliver, yet they won’t be better, enjoy the black hole Al Jefferson is, he’ll never learn to pass or play D, you just got the post version of Kevin Martin for $4M more a year, enjoy.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 09/17/2010 - 9:55am #403636
BasketBalAllanParticipantCalm down dude, no reason to call the guy a moron because he thinks the Wolves will not improve, because while there is a chance of improvement, you have to admit they are in a very though conference and have a lot of players who either play the same position or have underachieved in the past. It was not a personally attack against you. Take it from a Kings fan who is used to people talking down about his favorite team, if you really believe the person is incorrect, rather than insulting them, try and provide a contradicting but yet respectful argument. Insulting someone just makes them angry and usually quite a bit less agreeable. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, you basically said that the Kings would not really improve and you do not see me getting all butthurt over it.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 09/17/2010 - 10:31am #403643
JNixonParticipantNorthernLights666, you need a shrink man lol
0 - Posted on: Fri, 09/17/2010 - 10:32am #403645
torontoraptors10ParticipantI know what you’re saying. I’m just saying that if the Raptors do end up with the top 3 worst records there is a better chance of getting any top 3 pick. I was saying I’d be happy with Barnes or Jones to start of a new Raptors team with Bosh gone. If we do end up with the worst record, we’ll have a 25% of the getting the #1 pick, but its better than the team that had ended up 2nd last. I’d be happy with any pick in the top 5
Northernlight you need to chill bro. He just posted something calm down, take a breather, smell the fresh air and stop sippin the haterade! You can kindly explain to him your counter argument and we can all be friends here 🙂
0 - Posted on: Fri, 09/17/2010 - 11:26am #403653
bkballerParticipantt-wolves are the worst team in the NBA.
you might as well take off the rubio avatar because he will never put on a twolves jersey…0 - Posted on: Fri, 09/17/2010 - 11:52am #403659
SwatLakeCityParticipantMy goodness, someone hates my ideas. I was just mentioning Indy as an option. I didn’t say they should without a doubt trade Beasley to Indy. I know Beasley for Rush would never work, but maybe a different trade or a three team trade. There are other options than just Rush. Or maybe Beasley for Ford. Flynn isn’t that good. He’s a little small for the point, only 6’0 if that, and then he cannot create for himself, which is ideal in the Triangle. And I believe this is why Kahn wanted Turner so badly. Again, I did not say that Beasley must go to Indy. There are plenty of other teams that could also use him, but the combo of Beasley and Love is not going to work. It’s even worse than Big Al and Love. At least Big Al and Love are different players, Love and Beasley are the same player but Love gets more boards. How is that gonna work?
And how is Big Al a black hole. He averaged 25pts 10 boards a game, and 1.5 blocks without a true PG. So just imagine what he can do with a true PG. And also he loves it in Utah, he hated it in Minny, so he is willing to work hard and improve his defense and his outside shot. Also never underestimate the power of a great teacher and motivator like Jerry Sloan. The Wolves had nothing, no one to motivate him except for himself, no wonder you hated him. But in Utah, he has not only himself, but Jerry Sloan and his great coaching staff. So he will do great. Much better than Boozer and I can’t wait to watch him play. Bkballer I could not agree more about Rubio.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 09/17/2010 - 1:14pm #403670
Ahkasi ClayParticipantThe clips are young talented, and healthy, they should challenge for a playoff spot,
so…
…something will happen.Hey its the clippers!!!
0 - Posted on: Fri, 09/17/2010 - 7:36pm #403717
omphalosParticipantOkay, how exactly are Beasley and Love the same player? Beas is a LOT more athletic, he’s a better shooter and a much better scorer overall. Love is a better passer, rebounder and inside presence. Beasley should play the 3 and Love the 4. Completely different players.
Good call on Detroit, they could very easily fail hard here. No real C, no real PG and a logjam at almost every position; they are going to have locker room problems due to inconsistent playing time. Don’t expect them to last the season with this current lineup. Hopefully T-Mac can bounce back, but even if he does the minutes aren’t there.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 09/18/2010 - 6:24am #403751
SwatLakeCityParticipantWhat I mean is they are both Good Shooters, they can both play the PF. Also I don’t think Beasley will do well as a SF. But maybe I’m just pessimistic, I’ll have to wait and see how good this tandem is and if infact Beasley is better at SF instead of PF. But I do have my doubts.
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