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John Wall had 38 Pts, 6 Reb, 8 Ast, 4 Stl, 1 Blk...and the Wizards STILL lose. I feel really bad for Wall right now. He literally put his team on his back and it doesn't produce a win.

I don't follow the Wizards very closely but what is their plan for the future? They need to surround Wall with elite talent and character either through draft or a trade. I think it is stunting Wall's growth into becoming a true superstar that he doesn't have anyone on his team to help him out.

What would be some sensible additions to this team, and who should they draft?


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This season for Wizards is

This season for Wizards is lost..Wall got potential to be one of the best pg in the league..This game is proof to those who think that Wall is a bad player that he's not bad..his teammates are bad..You cant blame player who score 38 points,had 8 assists,4 steals and 6 reb for a loss like some of people do..If he had good teammates he could have 10+assists every game..

if they had a first pick they should draft Drummond..he is that type of player that you cant pass on...if not then Barnes..

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If the Wiz don't get one of

If the Wiz don't get one of the top two picks, I think Harrison Barnes would be a breath of fresh air in Washington.

Would be the elite wing scorer they need to spread out the floor and open up driving lanes so Wall can work his magic.

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"John Wall had 38 Pts, 6 Reb,

"John Wall had 38 Pts, 6 Reb, 8 Ast, 4 Stl, 1 Blk"

One of the best all around games this year. What else can Wall do?

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He cant do anything else...if

He cant do anything else...if his teammates gets better his statistic will be better to :)

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Harrison Barnes

The Wizards need Harrsion Barnes most definitely. Maybe a little UNC bias here, but the Wiz need a high character guy with a strong work ethic in that locker room. Wall and Barnes are a good stepping stone for them as Mcgee, Blatche, Nick Young and Jordan Crawfod should ALL be expendable. The Wizards need solid veteran leadership in that locker room. Sad they they have fallen this far from the Butler Jamison and Arenas days.

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Wall is a great player.

He's just not a franchise changer. Otherwise, they'd be winning more games.

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Even if they get the 2nd pick

Even if they get the 2nd pick I think they would need to think hard about taking Jeremy Lamb, Lamb and Wall would be as deadly as any backcourt in the league.

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Personally I think they

Personally I think they should get Jeremy Lamb. Two good scorers on the wing would be great. Plus Lamb can shoot better. If I were them, I'd try and trade Nick Young/Crawford for a top pick in the draft (probably throw in more players too) just so that they can reload in this upcoming draft and hopefully go forward where all their newly acquired star talent could be peaking at the right time just like how OKC is playing now with Harden/Durant/Westbrook.

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They should trade down get an

They should trade down get an asset or two and take Michael Kidd Gilchrist. This kid has an uncanny ability to win. Talent is not the problem for the wizards. If they can add a glue guy like Gilchrist they will be much improved. Hopefully his selfless attitude can rub off on a team full of black holes (young,crawford,mcgee,blatche).

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Games like these shows that

Games like these shows that Wall is not part of the Wizards' problem. He put up great numbers tonight and held a potential all-star PG (Lowry) in check, yet his teammates failed to give any help to win this game. JaValle McGee allowed an offensively challenge Sam Dalembert score 20 PTS on him, Nick Young was atrocious shooting the ball and let Kevin Martin score 25 PTS (if he's not scoring, and not playing defense, then what good is he for?).

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Wizards take a look at the Cavs

Seriously, the Wizards have a lot of talent on the team starting with John Wall. But their biggest problem is they have a serious lack of veteran leadership and everyone is playing for themself.

The Wizards have more talent than the Cavs. But the Cavs are winning with a rookie starting point guard.

The difference between them, is the Cavs have veterans, unselfish players, and are playing together every night.

Irving is a better leader than John Wall.

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McGee is the top shot blocker

McGee is the top shot blocker in the league, get's a double double everynight, and is the only player on Washington who has chemistry with Wall and consistently finishes plays everytime Wall sets him up. He's not the problem, but Young, J. Crawford, and Blatche are cuz they just throw up shots blindfolded and can't guard anybody.

I'm not sold on Barnes being a better prospect then Jeremy Lamb. Also Sullinger is a guy you have to put into the equation too because he is just to good of a low post scorer, he;ll take some of the heat off of Wall having to create every single shot.

And nobody thinks Wall is a bad player people just don't think he's knows how to play basketball the right way. He still has an AAU mentality.

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"He's just not a franchise

"He's just not a franchise changer. Otherwise, they'd be winning more games."

one man with Wall's lack of experience in the league cant do it. I dont know what you expect of him. I would keep McGee but everyone else who is soaking up major minutes can go, starting with Blatche. Maybe keep Crawford. Definitely keep Booker and Singleton unless there is a good deal out there for them.

Chill....Irving may be a better leader than Wall, but he is not a better talent. I can almost guarantee barring injuries Wall will have the better career because he will be a better assist guy and he will be just as good if not better scorer and defender.

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Barnes

They NEED Barnes, perfect fit

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I think Jared Sullinger is who this team needs, especially if they plan on keeping McGee around. He would make them a significantly better half-court team, and give Wall somebody to make plays with. He strikes me as the kind of guy who will command a double-team in the post, while providing the excellent leadership and intangible qualities that the rest of the roster lacks.

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Wizards, get rid of that

Wizards, get rid of that pick. Sorry guys. But they NEED veteran leadership. Another young player will not help the team grow out of this. They can get incredible value for it and immediately improve their complete lack of understanding of "team" not to mention their actual playing.

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If there was a Durant, Lebron

If there was a Durant, Lebron or Kobe in this draft I wouldn't say that...

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great topic

i think they need a PF to replace blatche who is just a huge bum. the guy is not a winner in any sense of the word. nick young could fill a more responsible role at SG with some maturity and i actually happen to like singleton and vesely at the 3 with some development. theyre going to really need drummond or davis though or else youre going to see a lot more performances like this one. also they really need a veteran big man to help with leadership, like a kurt thomas or pj brown kinda guy (not neccessarily them specifically). J Wall can only do so much.

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Pick either Lamb, Barnes, or Sullinger.

As mentioned before the season, as young as it is, is already lost for the Wizards. Good news is this draft is one of the deepest we have ever seen since '03, '05, and '08. Just tank and build through this draft. I like the idea of dealing Young, and Crawford for another pick. Lamb, Barnes, and Sullinger are all great fits for the Wizards in their own right. They should just let the chips fall where they may and land one of those 3 talents. Unless of course they land the top pick again in which case they have to go for Drummond.

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So let me guess... People are

So let me guess... People are back on Wall's nuts now?

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i was gnna say the same thing lol

the wizards main problems are guys like blatche, young and crawford are ball hogs... taking terrible shots... they dont defend, have no toughness what so ever, no chemistry.... and have a softy coach who wont get into his players chest...

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Wall is good, but his team

Wall is good, but his team just blows. Bunch of selfish players that stand around on defense as well as offense. How can you be a big man and not even shoot over 40%...ie.(Blatche). The team as a whole is barely shooting 40%...who is Wall going to pass to...We are so young and we do need veteran leadership with Rashard Lewis being a bum. I feel like everyone on this roster should be expendable to obtain pieces, even Mcgee who is solid but is a complete bonehead. Who in the world attempts a dunk off the backboard when you are losing by 6... I do like players like Vessely and Singleton..I like them a lot, but we need to do something before the Wiz ruin Wall's career. Ernie Grunfeld needs to go ASAP, how can he still be GM after signing Gilbert to 100mil, trade a lotto pick for Randy Foye and Mike Miller, and resign Blatche. I feel bad for Flip but he has lost the locker room and his style of play does not fit well with our athletic team. I am fearing the day Wall leaves Washington.

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I watched this game and Wall

I watched this game and Wall was not the problem. He brought them back from 20 points down to make it a game late. McGee has some problems but Dalembert scored some on Blatche and hit some long jumpers which I'm sure Washington was fine with. McGee had some good blocks and the Rockets were shaky going to thevrim for awhile because of him. Nick young was terrible. He wasn't shooting well, wasn't aggressive and couldn't guard anybody. Blatche looks out of shape and selfish. Jordan Crawford is the guard version of mareese speights, which means when he gets the rock it is going to be a FGA. They need to look at addition by subtraction. Young, Blatche, and Crawford need to go. I think they need to draft a guy like Sullinger, Barnes, Lamb, or MKG if not Drummond or Davis. They can sign some vets or trade the guys mentioned for a few.

Different topic but should be known by everyone. Chandler Parsons for the Rockrts is a huge steal. He can play good defense, is a good shooter and rebounder. He also made some nice passes. And he had a huge outback dunk of Javale McGee. He is going to be a good player for years.

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Obviously they take Drummond

Obviously they take Drummond if they have #1 if not I think they have to take Jared Sullinger. They have enough raw talent time to bring in some basketball players with an actual IQ. With the young talent they have I think they would turn around quick if they drafted Sullinger and tried to get Jeff Green to come home. Sullinger is the perfect complement to the uber athletic yet inconsistent Mcgee. He's the Anti Blatche. They definitely have some nice pieces, Wall and Mcgee are potential Allstars if they can fit better into team structure and become more consistent. I do love their glue guys though. Chris Singleton already is a stud versatile defender, great team player and surprisingly decent shooter, same boat for Trevor Booker who I absolutely love his motor and style. Then guys like Crawford and Vesely project in the teams future. I think they need to really start blending in some higher IQ guys to complement the young talent. Then again if they don't retain Nick Young drafting a Jeremy Lamb or Harrison Barnes would be a great pick as well.

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The main problem with the

The main problem with the team is Flip Saunders. Dude is a total loon. I don't feel like explaining it right now. Until the man is fired, I will boycott all Wizards games. PEACE.

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Barnes would be the best

Barnes would be the best fit...They cant pass up on Drummond... That seems to be the consensus belief and I agree with it. What I dont agree with is the fact that people believe Lamb would be a better fit then Micheal Kidd Gilchrist, or Anthony Davis.

MKG seems like he has very similar character to John Wall. Both are extremely competitive players, young, and charasmatic. They like to have fun competing. Also Micheal Kidd Gilchrist has no ceiling in my opinion. The kid seems to be a sponge, he works very hard on his game, and improves. Mike would not allow Wall to play at anything but 100%.

Anthony Davis is also very competitive. The guy is honestly a defensive force with great overall basketball instincts. He only makes good plays, so the other team and players have to outplay him on every possession. The guy shoots 64% with 1-assist per game and one-turnover per game. He also gets 10-rebounds per game, 4.6-blocks per game, and 1.6-spg with only 2-fouls a game. Beast! Thats only in 29 minutes. Imagine Wall and Davis coming at you on the break on a 2 on 1, bit scary. A defensive presence like Davis added to any NBA team would set a standard. And who knows, maybe he adds 30 pounds and some post moves, that would just be a plus.

Also Thomas Robinson and Brad Beal could get some consideration for this pick as well.

Thomas Robinson maybe the best rebounding forward in college basketball. The guy is fierce and extremely scrappy. Plays hard on both sides of the court. Obviously he is a very good on ball defender which is what he is known for. Recently his offensive game has shown great development. He is knocking down more jumpers including range from college-3 an picking it up on offense while still maintaining great presence on the glass and defensively. Who knows how good his offensive game will get by the time Washington drafts.

Brad Beal is very underrated. I cant believe some of the comparisons and scouting reports their are on this guy. People say he is not athletic/explosive, that he cant drive, that he is short, that he cant dribble and it is all quite overblown. His athletisism is above NBA average even at his position, he attacks the rim strong and usually has one slashing dunk a night...especially since his shot has been off, he is the average NBA hieght/length for an NBA SG (6'4), his dribble is below average but something that can easily be improved through repetition. What alot of people dont recognized is how complete a player he is. He defends well, rebounds while and needs to look for his teammates more but has great passing skills. For Beal to be playing at the level he has is very impressive and his shot has been off so far but Harrison Barnes faced the same issue last year.

Lets not forget that we are still extremely early in the season. Who knows maybe Perry Jones gets his ass in gear and starts dominating and becoming the clear cut 1st overall pick. maybe Quincy Miller fully recovers and drops 20-25-ppg. Not suggesting that will happen but if it did that would definitely gain consideration for the 1st overall pick. What Im saying is the good thing is this draft is so stacked with talented players that these players could shift positions at any time. The tournament will have a huge impact on this years draft.

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Davis is definitely a

Davis is definitely a interesting player but for the Wizards i'm not sure, I personally wouldn't want a front line of Mcgee and Davis, that seems too dicey. I agree though that MKG would be a great pick for the Wizards, although after just drafting Singleton I'd probably go with a more perimeter talented player like Lamb or Barnes.

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Davis for the wizards pick

Davis for the wizards pick would be wrong because they have McGee who is and will be a better player.

Drummond would be my first choice for the wizards pick, but to be completely honest I'd love to see Thomas robinson on the wizards, hed be an instant 17-10 player and could really help on pick n rolls for wall. Maybe a trade down for Robinson?

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Baseless Rumor

I couldn't pull a source on this if you asked me, so don't bother; but somebody told me that Thomas Robinson does cocaine during the offseason. Again, I've no proof to back that up, so you probably shouldn't put any stock into it. Maybe it's not even a big deal if it is true. Regardless, he doesn't strike me as much of a leader.

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