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  • #34672
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    WizardofOz
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    If anything, this game proves that they NEED to resign Nick Young. Just horrible shooting & spacing throughout the game, which shut down driving lanes. Nick’s shooting would’ve healped space the floor and would’ve given the guards and extra target to kick out to.

    Wall had a lackluster game, but it doesn’t help when you have no one to pass to. He struggled finishing at the rim, and had too many TOs on forced passes. Just want to remind everyone that he’s blazing fast, and put someone on a poster when he had his defeder leaning to the left, and made a quick cut to thr right and jammed it. Made a few open jumpers, and but missed all the contested ones I believe. Played good D. I like that he played hard.

    Andray Blatche is a joke. What has he been doing all summer? He still looks out of shape & slow, and struggled beating his man off the dribble because of it. Played a poor game for my standards. Led all scorers with 18, but didn’t play winning basketball. Was forced to settle for some contested jumpers because his fatness is slowing him down, wasn’t contesting shots, wasn’t jumping for rebounds, and is just terrible on rotations and recognizing when to help on D. The skill is there, but it seems like he’s not interested in maximizing his talent. The guy could easily be an All-Star if he wanted it, but I don’t know if he’ll ever get it, at least with this team.

    JaVale McGee needs to play more within himself. He rarely passes the ball when he gets it in the post, and overestimates his skill level. Made some nice moves, but also some bad moves where his footwork was off & funky. Used his crazy length to contest some perimeter shots, but it didn’t matter because it seemed like Philly was making EVERYTHING.

    Jordan Crawford still plays too wild, and his shot-selection is puzzling to say the least. Turn the ball over too much and ran into brick walls. And his jumpshot still needs a lot of improvement.

    Vesely looked pretty good. He has a better first game than I thought he would because of all the bad reports I was hearing abouut im in training camp. Had a nice lob from Shelvin Mack on the break, and played pretty good D. His mechanics on his jumpshot look good, and he has s sot touch. I think he’ll develop that shot in time.

    Chris Singleton’s defense looked as good as advertised.

    Seraphin is a bull in a china shop player that plays very physical on offense. Showed flashes of his post game with a few power dropsteps. Undersized for a C, but plays more like a C than PF. Lost a lot of weight from last season too.

    Mack looked OK. Looked pretty fast on the break, but don’t remember him making any of his jumpshots.

    Didn’t pay attention to the Sixers players too much, but Evan Turner looked impressive, and Mo Speights is just like Blatche — big time offensive talent, but poor work ethic, conditioning, and doesn’t defend.

     

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  • #615980
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    The Scare Crow Returns
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    And how did Holiday look defended Wall, what did he finish the game with…Also you mention Turner looking impressive, how many points did he have and was his jumper looking improved from last year…i didnt get to see the game…So any info you can post would be great…As far as the Wizards go, They may not be resigning Nick Young if they’ve gone as far as Preseason game 1 without putting it to ink…safe to say they’ll be adding a high pick in 2012…

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  • #615984
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    WizardofOz
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    I didn’t pay too much attention to the Sixers players (hence why I barely made comments on them). Turnevr had 16 piints on 5-13 from the field. I remember him making at least one jumpshot (a 3 I think, might have made one more), but his handle looked good and crafty.

    Wall was being defended well, but I’m not sure if Jrue was guarding him most of the game. Jrue’s jumper was on point though. Scored 12 pts on 5-7 from the field.

    And at the end of the day, I think Nick Young will return to WAS next season, probably accepting the QO for 3.7 mil. Nick’s agent thinks he worst 9 mil, but no GM wants to pay him that much, and he’s running out of teams because most teams that had a need at SG have already signed someone.

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  • #615985
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    heres some quick stats didnt watch the game though so can’t tell you how they defended

    holiday 12pts(5-7) 4 reb 5 assists

    turner 16 pts(5-13) 7reb 3 ast.

    iggy 0pts(0-6)  4 reb 5 ast.

    sixers won 103-78

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  • #615986
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    I watched this game and can give you a Sixer’s prospective. Here were some key take aways:

    Evan Turner – The biggest knock on him was confidence. Today, he came off the bench and played great! His shooting was a little bad (5-13) because he missed osme close ones but he made a good looking three from the corner, hit a nice transition jumper, and most importantly got to the line (5-6 FT). His defense was solid as well as he got some deflections (but the Wizards as a whole looked out of sync)

    Jrue Holiday – Ran the offense really nicely. I felt like he could have had some more jumpers but he decided to pass it up. He finished with 12 and 5 assists but if he didn’t pass up those extra 2-3 jumpers, he would have had more. Defensively, he was great and was giving Wall some fits (although Wall was the fastest guy out there and he blew by some defenders with the greatest of easy). Jrue also had a possession where he got rejected once and then hestitated and looked like he was going to bring it back outside and set up but then quickly went at the rack for the and-1 against the taller McGee. He just makes smart plays and he will continue to show that this season.

    Iggy – Did all the little things once again but his 0-6 really was not good sign considering the weak defense the Wizards were playing. He took some jumpers that made me raise my eyebrow. I know you love him Scarecrow and I respect Iggy a lot but if there is a trade out there, we need to let him go. When the ball is in his hands and he has to score, I get so nervous lol

    Lou Williams – shot well and had played typical Lou Williams ball. Our bench, led by Williams and Thad looks promising once again. 

    Thad – crafty baskets around the rim. One thing I noticed is that he doesn’t really look as comfortable as he used to be with his shot. But then again, if he scores 2 points down low, I can’t complain too much

    Spencer Hawes – SPENCER HAWESOME! He was fantastic today. Had 10 pts and 7 rbs in the first quarter and he was making some good solid post shots. Again, the Wizards defense was questionable but Hawes worked his ass off and finished with 14 and 9. We need more consistency from him but if we get double digits from Hawes, I like our chances. 

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  • #615988
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    WizardofOz
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    And I HATE Flips Saunders offense. It’s too half-court and slow-paced for me.

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  • #615987
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     Holiday was clearly the best player on the floor in the first 10 minutes of the game. Finished great at the basket, hit the open shot and got his teammates involved, going to be a big year for him.

    Turner looked really good, good handles and hit open jumpshots. He’s an amazing rebounder. Still not sure how good he can be off the ball though.

    Lou Williams and Thad Young were there usually self, great scoring punch and energy off the bench.

    Andre Iguodala was almost invisible to me and didn’t even notice him doing anything, missed the only couple shots he took. No reason to keep him on this team unless the Sixers are happy losing in the first round every year.

    Hawes was also very impressive. Him and Holiday had a great pick and pop game and he hit all his open jump shots. Also showed good craftiness in the lane with pump fakes and jump hooks.

    Craig Brackins also looked good, hit two contested 3’s in limited time, he needs to get some time this year as a stretch 4.

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  • #615989
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    JaeEvolution
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     Also, some key plays that I remembered from the Wizards side

    John Wall  had a nasty dunk when Turner was on him and blew by him for the righ handed finish. Sixers were up by 40 though at that point

    Mack drew two defenders in and had a great lob pass to Jan Vesley who finished with the one hand jam.

    On a three on 1 fast break, (3 Sixers vs Singleton) Jrue lobbed up a pass for an Iggy alley-oop but Singleton made a great defensive block to break up the pass. (Singleton looks poised to get a lot of playing time with his hustle)

     

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  • #616019
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    singletons hustle defense n work ethic plus blatche’s offences ability/talent would = a top player in the nba too bad u cant morph 2 players into 1

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  • #616027
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    So as I sit down to watch the game the realization of both Iggy still being on the team and Jodie Meeks starting over Turner sank in and I instantly became hateful and vengeful for everybody involved in hiding Turner;s talents. As soon as Evan came in it became apparent that he did indeed spend the offseason working on not only his shooting mechanics but he also trimmed down in an effort to become quicker and more explosive. After a few nice passes an a pull up J in transition it looks like Turner is going to heat up and then BAM! The Meek train hit and Turner was taking out. frustrated I started rooting for the Sixers to lose even harder just to teach this damm management a lesson and that is Turner must play!

    But the Wiz just looked lost tonight and Turner did get enough time even tho Meeks still managed to lead the team in minutes played.

    A few notes:

    First off Philly was up 40 when Wall made that play and I never saw a player happier to cut a lead to 38 in my life. Honestly I like John Wall a lot but the Wizards need some real leadership on that team. Vessely looked very promising as did Singleton. At least with Wall, Ves and Singleton you know you are always going to get effort and hustle even if their basketball skill will take time to catch up.

    Shelvin Mack actually impressed me by looking like he belongs. Mack had like 3 offensive fouls that I wish weren’t called because that guy goes hard. He was called once for hooking Silas with his arm as he spun around him. And twice more for stiff arming his defender on the way to the bucket. I like that guy play tho.

    Nik Vucevic finished with 5 assists and 0 rebounds and if you didn’t know any better you’d think he was a euro guard from the box score. But Vucevic is big and long and showed off his basketball IQ in this game he looks very promising. He looks like a young Vlade.

    McGee is looking for his offense more which is a positive but he don’t know his limits yet but it;s just the first exhibition game so hopefully he can figure that out.

    I heard much adieu about Wall shooting better in the summer, but he still lacks a ton of confidence in his shot and it did not look good tonigh. He was 3-12 and one of them was the dunk and the other was a layup.

    Evan Turner’s shot looks really good he changed the way he holds and releases the ball and the outcome has been a noticeable difference. He now shoots the ball in one quick fluid motion and has extended his range. He has been hitting that corner 3 consistently all camp.

    All I heard out of Collins mouth all Camp was how impressive Iggy looks and how he wants him to shoot more. That’s the story of his career but Collins has to be smart enough to realize that can’t change now. Iggy still doesn’t now how to score and he still takes bad shots which just look bad while he’s shooting them. He went 0-6 tonight for 0 points yet Collins want’s Turner to work on his offense more. I
    Are we going to suffer thru another season of Iggy being a Sixer while the guy who should be taking all his minutes and shots because he knows what to do with them sits on the bench? God plz no.

    And the Wizards more pressing need is a 2guard but their is hope cause once Wall get’s paired up with the likes of a Jeremy Lamb or Harrison Barnes, preferably Lamb, this team is really going to take off.

    Thank anybody who took the time to read this rant…@GODSPEED CHILD,..

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  • #616050
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    Either McGee or Blatche needs to GO..Its not good to have 2 young immature players in the starting lineup ,that dont seem to be interested in improving their game..

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  • #616099
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    Turner is looking a lot more secure his ability to handle the ball and find his offense…He rebounds the ball very well for Guard and can easily be MIP worthy if he ever cracks the starting lineup…Holiday is a Super sleeper right now…He did well against Wall and has a great fell of the offense, he’s a Franchise Pg IMO…Iguadola struggled from the floor but got some rebounds and assists and I’m sure defended well…Lou Williams and Thad Young provide great offense from the bench…Brand is solid in his 30’s and only has 2 years left on his horrid contract(1 if we Amnesty him in July)…Jody Meeks has a great 3 pointer and has been a steal thus far for the Sixers but unless he’s a bonifide Starter in this league, he needs to moved to the Second unit to allow Turner the Chance to Showcase his Talent…Mo Speights has to step up this year as a backup Pf/C, I always wanted him to become a Full Time starter but I find myself let by the rusty M16…Hawes needs to show us what type of player he is, is he a starting C or a backup Pf/C like Speights…I’m going to keep my eye on Nikoli Vucevic all year, I really want this guy to be the steal of the 2011 draft and become a great starting Center down the road, he has a great set of skills for a big man and if he can rebound the ball and defend his man well enough to stay on the floor he’ll be another great pick up in the Sixers long history of solid picks….We truly do need a Franchise Power Forward in the 2012 Draft, so I wish there was a way to secure a pick in the top 10 without completely tanking…Sixers big board should look like this

    1.Anthony Davis 6’10 F Kentucky

    2.Andre Drummond 6’10 F/C U Conn

    3.Jared Sullinger 6’9 F Ohio State

    4.Perry Jones III 6’11 F Baylor

    5.Thomas Robinson 6’9 F Kansas

    6.John Henson 6’10 F North Carolina

    7.Terrence Jones 6’9 F Kentucky

    Wildcard…Micheal Kidd Gilchrist (I personally think this guy could come in a replicate what Iggy brings to a team like the Sixers)

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #616127
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    "Nik Vucevic finished with 5 assists and 0 rebounds and if you didn’t know any better you’d think he was a euro guard from the box score. But Vucevic is big and long and showed off his basketball IQ in this game he looks very promising. He looks like a young Vlade."

    http://www.adriaticbasket.com/player.php?id=2109

    http://www.eurocupbasketball.com/ulebcup/competition/teams/showteamstats?clubcode=BUD

    16.9 points and 9.7 rebounds per in the Adriatic League. 16.8 points and 7 rebounds per in the same Eurocup where Jonas Sabonis gets praised for fractional production. He isn’t soft. It was his first exhibition. He’ll be good, and certainly will give Philadelphia an out from overpaying Spencer Hawes next summer.

     

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  • #616165
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    Mr. 19134
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    @BTPH

    Thanks for posting that link to his stats in Europe during the lockout.  I thought you were gonna rip me for calling him a young Vlade but I truly believe he plays like a young Vlade and alot of that has to do with them numbers you posted because I was following his every game in Europe and came away more then impressed by the 20 year old 7 footer.  I saw footage of a game where he had 17 n 8 and he looked fantastic picking and rolling and settin hedge screens then backpedeling and finding open spots on the court for catch and shoot shots which he was draining.  He also looked extremely thinned down over their and a bit more mobile which I took as great signs before he arrived at camp for the Sixers.

    @ Scarecrow

    The sixers imo really need a shot blocker, so John Henson is my pick.

     

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  • #616166
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    The sad thing… People actually think McGee can play defense. He is probably one of the worst defending starting centers in basketball.

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  • #616261
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    The Scare Crow Returns
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    @ Indiana Basketball, I think both McGee and Deandre Jordan are very over rated defenders, the only thing they have working for themselves is that they are both young and tall…

    @ Mr. 19124…everyone of the Power Forwards I listed can block a few shots IMO(minus Sullinger)…Henson is a great shot blocker, but I’m not ready to say I’d take him over the other guys listed, he’s just too raw offensively and I’m looking for A Franchise Pf, Henson looks to be a role playing shot blocking dunker…I’d think we end up drafting in the 12 to 18 range, so Robinson/Henson/T.Jones come to mind off the bat…out of the 3 I believe Jones as the most break out or bust potential, Henson has the lenght GM’s love and shot blocking skills Team’s need to defend the paint but is rail thin and raw on offense, Robinson has a solid build and can play in the post from day one, you’d love for him to show more interior skills but he’s probally the safest choice out of the 3…

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