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Wizards inquire about Cousins

I've brought up the idea of pairing Cousins with Wall in Washington. According to Hoopshype, Washington inquired about Cousins, only to be rebuffed by Sac-Town, stating they are not trading him. What do you guys think? Are they set on keeping Cousins? Or are they trying to drive up the price for him, since it may be at an all time low at the moment?

What do you think is the best deal for both parties? I like Cousins, but I think unless Cousins publicaly acknowledges his mistakes and vows to improve, the Kings almost have to trade him. I think they should let Wsh have Cousins in return for their pick unprotected this year as well as having them take some bad contracts off their hands.

Washington gets- Cousins, Thornton, Salmons, Hayes, Brooks
Sacramento gets- Okafor, Ariza, Singleton, Crawford, 2012 unprotected 1st rounder

Washington now has 3 young players who compliments each other in Wall-Cousins-Beal. Of course its a gamble on Cousins, but I think we all agree this is a position where he may suceed. They also get a bunch of vets to help with their desire for competing for a playoffs spot sooner than later. Salmons will replace Ariza as the starting 3, Hayes is a great bench player and Brooks is Walls backup at the 1. I also think I will start Thorton for now and bring Beal off the bench.
Wall-Thorton-Salmons-Nene-Cousins
Bench: Brooks-Beal-Webster-Hayes/Vesely-Seraphin

Sacramento rids themselves of a few bad contracts and adds 20 millions in contracts that expires after next year (Okafor/Ariza). They also get two yound pieces in Crawford and Singleton, not to mention another high lotto pick.
Thomas-Evans-Ariza-Thompson-Okafor
Bench: Fredette-Crawford-Singleton-Robinson

I think this is the best case scenerio for Sac town if they decide to rebuild.

Thoughts?


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A Wall/Cousins reunion could

A Wall/Cousins reunion could be either a blessing or a burden. Also, Nene would be a good mentor for Cousins, but it's hard to fathom both of them on floor together. They're both big bodies that need space to create and neither one of them has a consistent jumper enough to spread the floor.

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or it could....

It would be a huge risk for the Wizzards due to the fact that their future would be dependant on a broken knee cap for Wall while Cousins seems to be hindered by a dislocated brain. Sounds like a lot of talent on paper but all that does is get coaches and GMs fired.

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Dislocated brain....I like

Dislocated brain....I like that.

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Might as well make a bold

Might as well make a bold move...Not like Wizards are going anywhere but lottery hell

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I Dont know why Washington

I Dont know why Washington would want to do this...Arent they trying to create a positive enviroment,make people forget the Arenas situation and rid themselves of McGee ,Young,Blatche and those other CLOWNS?

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There is no need to include

There is no need to include that many players. Just have a Cousins for the 1st rounder and $ filler. Kings get two lottery picks and Wizards get 3 very good players to build around.

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I agree, no need to include

I agree, no need to include that many players. Probably better deals than Washington out there, but I like your idea. Some of those players I am not sure you want anyway.

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There is no need to include

There is no need to include that many players. Just have a Cousins for the 1st rounder and $ filler. Kings get two lottery picks and Wizards get 3 very good players to build around.

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Why would the Kings do this?

Why would the Kings do this? The 2012 draft isn't going to change the dynamic of their team. You could say their rebuilding process isn't going according to plan, but you don't trade your biggest possible trading piece, at his lowest possible moment, and get THAT in return.
Okafor and Ariza help this team in no way because expiring contracts are only helpful when you can bring in free agent talent. Crawford is a guard that can't shoot and Singleton's only plus is that he is young. . .not exactly what Kings need to rebuild. . .
This seems like a really one sided trade where the Wiz get to fill all their holes, while the Kings lose a potentially very valuable asset.

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There are always 2 sides....

So to play devils advocate, things arent always what they appear. The Kings greatest asset could also be their greatest liability. I really had when people talk about future draft classes. College has nothing to do with pros and who knows what a pick could potentially turn out to be. there are gems in every class. Look at Holiday and Lawson, the 17th and 18th picks in 09. Look at guys like Pippen and Pierce. One player by himself is not going to change a franchise most of the time, that goes for Cousins or any future draft picks. The Kings may just want to cut their loses if you want to look at it like that and move on. Its just may not be a good marriage. Cousins has received more of a pass than guys such as Terrence Williams because of what has been invested in him and his talent level....but in the end....if he doesnt work in Sac then they need to seriously think about getting the best deal for him possible and take an L on the rest. Not saying Okafor and Ariza is the best deal.

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And I'm not saying don't

And I'm not saying don't trade him. I'm saying don't trade him for that package. You're right about the draft and its uncertainty, but that is all the more reason not to do the trade. This was not a plea to keep Cousins, simply a reason not to do this particular trade.

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First and foremost, the Kings

First and foremost, the Kings need to clean up their backcourt. Is Tyreke part of their plans? Should they get rid of Thornton so Isaiah Thomas gets more PT? Are they OK with Jimmer being their primary backup PG? In my opinion they need to get what they can for Thornton, he's a great scorer but I don't think he fits into their plans. And before they do this they need to decide as an organization whether they think Tyreke can lead them to wins and whether they can find a way so that Evans and Cousins compliment each other. And the reason they're so hesitant to move Cousins is because in the last 21 games of last season, Cousins averaged 22 and 11 in 32 mins per game on 47% shooting, all this as a 21 year old. I think htat if a team can run some organized sets for him, he can shoot a better percentage, but they need to clean house because whatever they're doing isn't working.

Meanwhile the Wizards are doing the right thing, putting Cousins next Nene would make a daunting and formidable frontcourt, John Wall is still a very good point guard even if he hasn't progressed as quickly as most of us would've liked, and they can continue to bring Beal along. If they got a good coach, that team could be scary, assuming they sent Seraphin, Crawford, and a pick for Cousins. I think playing with Wall will make him even more productive, remember that he has NEVER played with a pass-first point guard.

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devils advocate again...

do you clean up the backcourt or get rid of a potential cancer first? I think the biggest issue needs addressing first, and thats their best talent which is Cousins. Whether that means keeping him and blowing out the rest of the team, or dumping him and moving elsewhere. This shouldnt even be a topic we should be discussing honestly. If you take Greg Monroe, you dont have this conversation. This is not due to Monroe being better but being able to run and organization smoothly and build it properly without taking steps backwards. These questions are what kept Cousins from going even higher in the draft. Here we are again, having the same discussions about the guy. OKC has been a model example of what you do in the draft. Even though Harden isnt there anymore, still....I think character has played a huge part in their selections. A lot of people felt that Cousins shouldve went before Favors. What do you think now? Well, even though Cousins may have had more of an impact...it wont do any good if he cant get along with his coaches and the organization.

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