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Wizards Are Out Their Mind

I was actually thinking to myself that the owners are doing a better job of not over paying players, until I seen the Wizards are close to a 5 year $80 million contract extension, with John Wall...smh He does not deseeve the max I'm sorry...Rondo doesn't even make that much and he's not only better than John Wall, but a perennial all-star, plus a champion....Wall can't even stay healthy, this better be a incentive laden contract...smh


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Sometimes as a franchise you gotta take the chance on the "star" player you have on your team, regardless if your opinion thinks otherwise. Who else will the Wizards have besides Wall? They have Bradley Beal, but they need to stockpile on talent. Wall is just another piece to the puzzle but I do think Wall will be a lot better within the next 5 years when he signs that contract.

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What were they supposed to

What were they supposed to do? Not pay him and let their franchise player walk?

This was their only choice and I'm glad they took the chance.

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I like John Wall but this

I like John Wall but this contract is based purely on potential.

I still think he can be a top-5 PG in the L but there are some top-5 PGs in the league that aren't getting paid this much.

I mean, Stephen Curry, a franchise PG who led his team to the 2nd round of the playoffs got a 4yr/44mil extension.

Rajon Rondo, an NBA Champion, playoff triple-double machine, and All-Star got a 5yr/55mil extension.

Westbrook got this 5yr/80mil contract in the middle of a 23pt, 5ast, 4reb season where he and Durant took OKC to the Finals.

I'm rooting for Wall and I think he can be a 24pt,7ast,5reb type of player, but the critics and this contract are not on his side at the moment.

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I think he is a step below

I think he is a step below westbrook and I would give him 5 years 70 million. The other guys are underpaid, Curry would have gotten the max if he waited till the end of the season.

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Looks like they try to keep

Looks like they try to keep him,beacuse everybody talks about that Lakers 2014 free agency.

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People on here do not

People on here do not understand business. Wall is set to have a breakout season providing he does get hurt. He has a better team and he showed how he made his teammates better when he played last season. Wall could make more money if he would have waited to sign a contract rather than an extension so actually the Wiz saved money if Wall plays out of his mind this coming season. It was a gamble but one they could not afford to lose because like some have said, Lakers and other teams have money. I am sure despite what George says, Indy would like to lock him up as well. Also Stephon Curry would have gotten the max if not for injuries and Rondo took less to have a chance at a championship. Rondo was probably dumb for taking less but at the time I do admit it appeared to make sense but now he is getting underpaid of a rebuilding team. Also Rondo was rumored to be a problem in the locker room. Wall agents used their leverage in their favor and that is why Wall is getting paid with guarantee money now because if Wiz would have waited and Wall played well, Wall could have demanded more and Wiz would have had to pay because someone else would give him the max. If any of us worked in a company where we were that important to the success of our company, we could make demands like this too. People forget that NBA owners make more money than the players they pay. All that lockout talk was because some owners wanted to make more money which is why they never showed their books openly.

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"People on here do not

"People on here do not understand business"

-stopped reading after that.

My two cents: He's got to perform now. Potential only lasts so long.

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So easily offended Wow, I did

So easily offended Wow, I did not realize my statement was directed towards you. I speak in general and if something offends you get over it. If you fit the bill then you should address it but if you don't then why get upset.

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I've always been a John Wall

I've always been a John Wall fan and i've went to bat for him on this site a ton, and i guess I have to do it again.

I just want to start by saying John Wall catches so much unwarranted flack... How many players/point guards have averaged 17 points, 8 assists, 4.4 rebounds, 1.5 steals and 0.7 blocks in their first 3 seasons? The two things people harp on his about shooting percentage and turnovers. He shoots 42% for his career and averages 3.7 turnovers.

For comparisons sake Jrue Holiday averages 13.4 points, 5.8 assists, 3.6 rebounds, 1.4 steals, 0.3 blocks, shoots 44%, and averages 2.7 turnovers. Ironically the year he got to handle the ball the most he averaged 3.7 turnovers. He had the chance to have other ball handlers on his team, Andre Igoudala/Evan Turner, etc..

Another comparison is Russell Westbrook, he averages 20 points, 6.9 assists, 4.8 rebounds, 1.6 steals, 0.3 blocks, shoots 43% and averages 3.5 turnovers.

John Wall is right there on line with those players. 2 All-Stars, and he has played with less talent his whole career until now. He now finally has a team around him, and last season with his improvements and the addition of bradley Beal he started to show his potential.

Seriously we need to appreciate the kid for his talent and stop hounding him. We look at his turnovers and no one else's. Out of all of the young point guards the only one to average under 3 is BRANDON FREAKING JENNINGS, and we know how everyone on this site hates him.

John Wall deserves his money, in the NBA there are 3 types of big contract guys. The Superstars-Lebron, Kobe, KD, etc...The Potential guys- John Wall, Steph Curry, Kevin Love and the lifetime achievement award guys- Shawn Marion, Amare Stoudemire, Kevin Garnett.

Thats how GM'S give out big contracts, Steph Curry.. who everyone loves him now but before this year he was injury prone with a bad ankle, and a middling point guard with potential. His ankle kept him from his big contract. In his 3rd year he missed 40 games and averaged 15 points, and 5 assists. Hindsight is always 20-20.

I think John Wall deserves his contract for his potential. The Wizards have a team that will make the playoffs this year, and John Wall is the leader. He hasn't had the luxury to play with Kevin Durant, James Harden and Serge Ibaka or Thaddeus Young, Andre Igoudala, Lou Williams and Evan Turner.

16 million a year for a point guard that could maybe put up 20 and 10. He's pretty much guaranteeing you 18 and 8. Only 5 other players have the game/potential to do that. Chris Paul, Tony Parker, Russell Westbrook, Deron Williams and Jrue Holiday. Look at that company. 5 ALL-Stars.

I just say give John Wall his props, he deserves the money!

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while I agree with most of your points

I'll never say any player "deserves" $16 million a year GUARANTEED. I personally hate guaranteed contracts, it really contributes to our horrendous economy when people get paid to sit home. I wish we were back to the time when players worked to EARN next year's contract. But by today's rules, this is a smart move by the Wizards.

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I agree, that's a problem

I agree, that's a problem with the NBA as a whole. I mean Gilbert Arenas is the 2nd highest paid player in the NBA this year. Yeah.. Gilbert Arenas lol

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How does guaranteed contracts

How does guaranteed contracts hurt our economy? I would love to get your take on this with more solid info.

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I've always been a John Wall

I've always been a John Wall fan and i've went to bat for him on this site a ton, and i guess I have to do it again.

I just want to start by saying John Wall catches so much unwarranted flack... How many players/point guards have averaged 17 points, 8 assists, 4.4 rebounds, 1.5 steals and 0.7 blocks in their first 3 seasons? The two things people harp on his about shooting percentage and turnovers. He shoots 42% for his career and averages 3.7 turnovers.

For comparisons sake Jrue Holiday averages 13.4 points, 5.8 assists, 3.6 rebounds, 1.4 steals, 0.3 blocks, shoots 44%, and averages 2.7 turnovers. Ironically the year he got to handle the ball the most he averaged 3.7 turnovers. He had the chance to have other ball handlers on his team, Andre Igoudala/Evan Turner, etc..

Another comparison is Russell Westbrook, he averages 20 points, 6.9 assists, 4.8 rebounds, 1.6 steals, 0.3 blocks, shoots 43% and averages 3.5 turnovers.

John Wall is right there on line with those players. 2 All-Stars, and he has played with less talent his whole career until now. He now finally has a team around him, and last season with his improvements and the addition of bradley Beal he started to show his potential.

Seriously we need to appreciate the kid for his talent and stop hounding him. We look at his turnovers and no one else's. Out of all of the young point guards the only one to average under 3 is BRANDON FREAKING JENNINGS, and we know how everyone on this site hates him.

John Wall deserves his money, in the NBA there are 3 types of big contract guys. The Superstars-Lebron, Kobe, KD, etc...The Potential guys- John Wall, Steph Curry, Kevin Love and the lifetime achievement award guys- Shawn Marion, Amare Stoudemire, Kevin Garnett.

Thats how GM'S give out big contracts, Steph Curry.. who everyone loves him now but before this year he was injury prone with a bad ankle, and a middling point guard with potential. His ankle kept him from his big contract. In his 3rd year he missed 40 games and averaged 15 points, and 5 assists. Hindsight is always 20-20.

I think John Wall deserves his contract for his potential. The Wizards have a team that will make the playoffs this year, and John Wall is the leader. He hasn't had the luxury to play with Kevin Durant, James Harden and Serge Ibaka or Thaddeus Young, Andre Igoudala, Lou Williams and Evan Turner.

16 million a year for a point guard that could maybe put up 20 and 10. He's pretty much guaranteeing you 18 and 8. Only 5 other players have the game/potential to do that. Chris Paul, Tony Parker, Russell Westbrook, Deron Williams and Jrue Holiday. Look at that company. 5 ALL-Stars.

I just say give John Wall his props, he deserves the money!

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When you have a pg with that

When you have a pg with that much talent and potential, you pay max. He may turn the ball over too much and cannot shoot but their record was much better with him on the floor last season...

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just wait til this season

just wait til this season when he makes you eat your words

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This is a good deal for The

This is a good deal for The Wizards and John Wall. The team played exceptionally well when he came back this year which made many wonder if they would've made the playoffs had he been healthy. Wall's jumper has been much improved and his assist will go up now that he has players who'll actually knock down open shots

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A little too much

i'll propose him a 5 years / 72 million increasing 1.2 million per year

2014-15 - 12.000.000 $
2015-16 - 13.200.000 $
2016-17 - 14.400.000 $
2017-18 - 15.600.000 $
2018-19 - 16.800.000 $

THOUGHTS ?

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If the Wizards don't lock him up now

Next year when he's a free agent, I GUARANTEE you there will be a line of teams looking to sign a borderline all star caliber PG for the max contract.

Then, the Wizards have to replace him. Which free agent do they bring in? Oh wait, that's right...there would be no free agent PG in that class better than John Wall. Plus, they'd have to overpay to bring a free agent in, as the franchise has a losing reputation.

SO, they can either gamble (slightly) now, on a player who definitely brings in the fans with his exciting play, and therefore earns you some ticket revenue, or let him walk/trade him for next to nothing, and overpay for a lesser player next summer. I'm not a GM, but I think if i were, I'd get fired if I messed up something this obvious.

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Well said

Well said

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