[surveParticipant]

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/7611451/naismith-hall-fame-finalists-include-reggie-miller-don-nelson-rick-pitino

I think its Nellie’s time, along with Cheeks and King…..and maybe Silk Wilkes.

[aamir543Participant]

He should get in, hopefully he gets in this year, but he may have to wait one more year, but I really want him to get in now.

[mikeyvthedonParticipant]

Surprised he did not get in last year, pretty sure he will this year. I have never been to into Nellie, though he definitely had an interesting and moderately successful career. Pitino should stand a chance as well. As much as I feel that Bernard King may have been better a player in his prime, I think Reggie had a better career than anyone that was mentioned. Mo Cheeks is sick, but he was not Reggie Miller. 

[ItsVictorOladipoParticipant]

I know I’m probably in the minority here but I don’t want guys like Cheeks, Wilkes and King getting into the Hall of Fame (and if Sampson gets in it should be mostly on the strenght of his college resume).

I frankly don’t want the Hall of Fame getting watered down with players with careers like that. Otherwise Mark Price, Lou Hudson, Walter Davis, Brad Daugherty, Shawn Kemp, Jack Sikma, Mitch Richmond, Vince Carter, Bob Dandridge, Marques Johnson, Tim Hardaway, Jo Jo White, Larry Costello, Chet Walker, Larry Foust and Jermaine O’Neal, Joe Johnson should all be shoe-ins as well.

If the NBA starts turning evey former star into a Hall of Famer, the Hall of Fame will lose some credibility.

Maybe their should be a wing in the Hall of Fame for the true greats…lol

[The Scare Crow ReturnsParticipant]

 Reggie is the sure fire Hall of Famer, the other guys were just solid role players or 2nd tier stars…

[Meditated StatesParticipant]

Miller is not a hall of famer be serious. Great player? He could shoot and nothing more. Never got to the rack like a Ray Allen or play PG at times like Allen. Miller does not deserve the hall but he is media friendly so he will get in.

[Meditated StatesParticipant]

20 pts 2 ast 2 reb in playoffs. No title one finals. Sorry not a Hall a famer

[surveParticipant]

 see, this is where I disagree, you guys say you dont want the HOF watered down, but someone has to go in each year, thats any HOF.  I dont get so fixated on numbers, but impact on the game, because thats what its about.   When we are dead and gone there will still be an HOF and players will still be going in every year so everything gets diluted through time.

if the argument is for Sampson to get in on strength of his collegiate career then Wilkes and King easily get in…and before Sampson.  Cheeks definitely gets slept on because of his numbers.   I remember Mo Cheeks was the prototype for TRUE PGs (Magic was the exception that broke the mold).  Tremendous ballhandler and defender with serious IQ.

who do you guys think should be on this years ballot if not those guys?

[ItsVictorOladipoParticipant]

see, this is where I disagree, you guys say you dont want the HOF watered down, but someone has to go in each year, thats any HOF.

I dont get so fixated on numbers, but impact on the game, because thats what its about. When we are dead and gone there will still be an HOF and players will still be going in every year so everything gets diluted through time.

Yes but evey year there are new available players (some of whom will certainly deserve it) so it doesn’t necessarily get diluted over time. Yes I think at least one player should get in every year but it seems like every year they want to pick 3 or 4. If only one guy deserves it then so be it.

if the argument is for Sampson to get in on strength of his collegiate career then Wilkes and King easily get in…and before Sampson.

Why before Sampson? Sampson won three Naismith POY. It’s true that he didn’t win a championship but then enither did King. You’re right Wilkes was a huge part of a reason that UCLA won two chips (and 4 on the Lakers) but he was never even a Second team All-NBA selection. I have a hard time accepting that someone who was never even a third team All-NBA selection should be in the Hall unless they had a tremendous overall career (Wilkes played just 11 seasons and averaged 17.7 PPG and 6.2 RPG) or stood out in some capacity (i.e Rodman as a rebounder, Miller as a shooter, Petrovic as a pioneer etc)

Cheeks definitely gets slept on because of his numbers. I remember Mo Cheeks was the prototype for TRUE PGs (Magic was the exception that broke the mold). Tremendous ballhandler and defender with serious IQ.

who do you guys think should be on this years ballot if not those guys?

I don’t have an issue with them being on the ballot, they are candidates that can certainly be argued for. I just personally would rather they all not get in. If it was up to me the player nominees would be Miller, George McGinnes, Sidney Moncrief, King, Sampson. But the only one I would really expect to get in would be Miller, although I want Bill Fitch to get in as a coach

[Meditated StatesParticipant]

I can work with what he brought more.

[aamir543Participant]

 ^This is where I disagree with you.

Miller was so good for so long, it’s crazy. Being the top 2 greatest shooter of all time definatly helps his case, as well as being a Knick killer. I’m too lazy to find it, but Surve made some great threads about who should and should not make the Hall, and there I myself and Surve make the arguement for why Reggie no doubt gets in.

[ProudGrandpaParticipant]

I’m tryin not to be biased, so, when I take a step back, he doesn’t exactly have the numbers.  But this is a real weak class.  He should get in, but maybe not this early in his elgibiltiy

[aamir543Participant]

 ^I honestly don’t think the weakness of the class should affect anything, Reggie should get in.

Considering that those idiots didn’t even have him as a finalist last year, he may have to wait one more year, but he will definatly get in, but just considering that they didn’t get him on the ballot last year, unfortunatly this year is not his year, but when he does get in, it will be well deserved.

 

[ItsVictorOladipoParticipant]

Miller was so good for so long, it’s crazy. Being the top 2 greatest shooter of all time definatly helps his case, as well as being a Knick killer. I’m too lazy to find it, but Surve made some great threads about who should and should not make the Hall, and there I myself and Surve make the arguement for why Reggie no doubt gets in.

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I agree that Miller should get in. It’s true that he was never a Second Team All-NBA selection, never won a championship and averaged 18.2 PPG over his career which certainly isn’t crazy. But he is arguably the second greatest shooter the league has ever seen, and was the face of the Pacers franchise and played with them for 18 years.

It’s called the Hall of "Fame" for a reason, Miller is certainly famous. The iconic Pacer, he put fans in seats and was one of the most popular and entertaining players/personalities in the league.

[Johnny Chill]

Will his buss be the choke poss he gave to Spike Lee?

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