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  • #27526
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    jjonz
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    They have tons of assests. They also have role players who earn to much $$$

    DHarris 9mill

    Millsap 9Mill

    Okur 10Mill

    The GM said that "Big Al has to get better." He maybe expendable this Summer also, the Cavs really wanted Big Al so a deal could be in place there, + the Cavs still have that 14mill Player Exemption.

    If they can somehow deal a few of those bad contracts they can sneak into the playoffs with a chance to also develop a young nucleus of Favors/Hayward/Burks or PJones/KWalker or whoever their 2nd lottery pick will be next year. Plus they have Top 7 Lottery protected pick from NJ via Warriors in 2012 draft.

    So here is what they lineup could look like

    DHarris or KWalker

    Alec Burks & or RBell

    PJones/GHayward  (Side Note PJones has to play on the wing he weighs #220)

    Favors( He has to start regardless of who’s in front of Him)/Millsap or cheap PF replacement

    BigAl/Okur or Trade option.

    This is a great franchise that will rebound very quickly.

     

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  • #515853
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    BKKnicksfan
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    How do you get Jones, Burks and Walker?

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  • #515855
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    jjonz
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    6th pick Jones/Burks

    13th pick KWalker/Jimmer or BKnight

     

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  • #515858
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    BKKnicksfan
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    Ok. Here’s my opinion realistically:

     

    The draft is looking weaker today then it did before with Barnes and Sullinger potentially staying so you have to draft correct. The two players who best fit is Terrance Jones and Brandon Knight. Both can be long term players who can contribute as bench players. Gordon Hayward and Derrick Favors will both play good positions next season, I think Hayward moves to shooting guard personally.

    As for moving those contracts? Not likely because Utah needs them to make the playoffs as well as you usually have to throw in something a team wants. Your most likely not going to move Okur without adding a good player and/or 1st round draft pick with him. I don’t know why you would move Milsap, he’s a good bench player and his contract is mid level after this season I believe and Harris needs to hold the PG spot for at least another season.

    I don’t think they can make the playoffs next season, but 2012 could be good for them.

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  • #515862
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    jjonz
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    I think the GM said they are 6 smallest team yet they have 4 or 5th highest payroll. Millsap is making 9mill per for the next 3 years. DHarris will make close to 30mill for the next 3 & he is not a Set-up get everybody better type of PG, will miss 10-15 games a year. I would trade him quickly.

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  • #515863
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    BKKnicksfan
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    http://hoopshype.com/salaries/utah.htm

     

    Milsap is making 6-7 mil over 3 years. Harris is making 8 in his contract season.

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  • #515869
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    jjonz
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    i was looking @ wrong info i guess 7mill is not bad for Millsap

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  • #515892
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    Harris is an average point guard. He’s a solid scorer, but inefficient and a very poor defender. Good playmaker, but nothing special at the NBA level. The Jazz should have looked to trade him as soon as he came over in the Jersey deal. Al Jefferson isn’t helping the team’s growth either. I know his stats look good, but his play isn’t turning into wins. Think Carmelo Anthony.

    Perry Jones (who is NOT a wing player) and Terrence Jones aren’t good fits for Utah. Kyrie Irving, Harrison Barnes, Jan Vesely and Brandon Knight all make sense and would be good investments for the future with their first pick. Other than that there isn’t many good fits in terms of impact players for Utah. Maybe Jimmer Fredette at 12. He would instantly be a fan-favorite and if he could settle into a bench role, he would be a great asset.

    I wouldn’t mind at all a Brandon Knight/Jimmer Fredette draft. I’m sure people would object to taking two point guards (hasn’t worked thus far for Kahn), but it could pay off for the Jazz who have lack both depth and talent in the backcourt.

    With the roster’s makeup it’s hard to see Utah being overly successful next season, especially if they keep starting Millsap and Jefferson (weak defenders) in the post. I doubt they make the playoffs.

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  • #515990
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     Swanson, you didn’t mention Derrick Williams. Obviously they don’t need another PF (considering arguably their three best assets are all 4’s), but if Williams is quick enough to play the 3, he’s obviously someone who might be a good fit. 

    I personally think either Barnes or Williams would be ideal. I like Irving, and for what I know about Kanter he sounds appealing, but I think history shows that players who get injured before they get to the NBA are more likely to be injury plagued once they’re in the league.

    As for regrouping next year, I think it will be tough for the Jazz.  If both Hayward and Favors can become above average bench players for 20-30 minutes a night, if Jefferson and Millsap both stay healthy, and if they keep Miles in the starting lineup, then yeah, I think they can be a borderline playoff team next year. I don’t know where the guy above got his numbers from though, as we don’t have Harris on the books for three more years. 

     

    Lastly, I’d love to see the Jazz draft find either Fredette or Knight, but I’m leaning towards Knight. Ideally I’d love to see the Jazz with Barnes/Derrick Williams and Brandon Knight… but unfortunately I don’t see Knight falling that far.

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  • #516008
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     I actually think T. Jones would be a great fit in Utah. Utah’s offense depends on passing. T. Jones used to be a 6’3 point guard before he grew 5 inches. He still posseses some of those PG skills so he can still pass well and that is just what Utah needs. Knight as said before is also a great fit and could learn a lot under Harris. I would love it if the Jazz drafted Knight and T. Jones. John Calipari players are known for coming in right away and making an impact (Wall, Cousins, Evans, Rose; those are all great players and we knew they would be great, but also Bledsoe came in and did really well in just his rookie year when many people thought it would take him awhile. T. Jones and Knight could have the same impact!!!

    Also Utah has the Warriors lottery pick next year which is top 7 protected. The 2012 draft is jam packed with stars so Utah could get their SG that they need there. (Lamb, Middleton, Gilchrist, Washington SG in the lottery) I expect Favors to continue to grow and learn under the tutiledge of Jefferson and Millsap. Also he is still young and could still grow another  inch or 2 meaning he would be 6’11 or 7 feet! He could be Utah’s starting Center which would allow Jefferson to move back to the 4 his original position and be a force down there!

    Harris will teach Knight well and he will probably back him up in about 1 or 2 years. Bell, AK, Watson, Elson will all be gone by this offseason, meaning more room for young guys to grow. I expect Utah to once again be a force in this league, in about 1 or 2 years.

    By next year this could be the Jazz’s lineup:

    • Harris/Knight/Price
    • Miles/Lighty (Utah trades Bell for him, Lighty will be a 2nd rounder)
    • T. Jones/Hayward
    • Jefferson/Millsap
    • Favors/Fez/Okur

    In 2012 Okur’s contract is off the books and once again Utah will have two picks. The first one is lottery protected from the Warriors and the second one is their own. It will probably be in the teens to early twenties. Utah could get Micheal Gilchrist or Jeremy Lamb or Khris Middleton or the Washington SG/SF in the 2012 lottery, and then use their 2nd pick on a Center like Tyler Zeller or Festus Ezeli or Alex Oriaki. Which means their lineup in 2012 could look like this:

    • Knight/Harris/Price
    • 2012 lottery pick/Miles/Lighty
    • T. Jones/Hayward
    • Jefferson/Millsap
    • Favors/2012 1st rounder/Fez

    Both of those lineups are pretty good and could really help Utah reach the playoffs and stay there. Utah is noturius for not being the lottery for very long. They usually are there for a year or two and then they immediately make the playoffs. If Knight and T. Jones are Utah’s picks this year they should make the playoffs barring injuries. They will have a full year to work out team chemistry which was a BIG issue this year so chemistry should be no problem. Bottom line: Utah will make the playoffs soon and they will continue to get better. I see a championship in 3 or 4 years for the Utah Jazz!!!!

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