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    Stephen A. Bayless
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    I hate the whole you have to overpay for a good center argument. The team that just won the title didn’t even play a real center. I know that team had Lebron, Wade, & Bosh but the point is still the same, the team with the best overall collection of players will win. When the Mavericks beat the Heat, it wasn’t solely because they had a center like Chandler, but the fact that they had the best overall team. Even though the Heat had 3 out of the top 4 players, Dallas might have had the next 6 best players (Terry, Kidd, Chandler, Marion, Barea, Stevenson in some order)

    My point is this, take a look at the recent centers who have been overpaid based on "potential" or a good playoff series or decent season. I think this list is comprised of Biedrins, Bogut, Noah, Chandler, M.Gasol, Nene, Deandre Jordan. Besides a few good games or highlights, what have they really done to push their teams over the top? Absolutely nothing. A lot of those players were arguably better "pre" big contract.  That’s not even mentioning contracts given out to the likes of Kwame Brown, Darko, Channing Frye, Joel Anthony, Johan Petro. Don’t even get me started on Erick Dampier, Eddie Curry, Jerome James, etc. I know this has been going on for a long time but is that any real justification for anything. The worst part is fans are actually starting to pay into it. In reality giving an average player a max contract doesn’t make him a "max" player, just an average player paid like a "max"  player. This year’s Free Agency will add a couple more players to this list.

     

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    LerinErin
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     1  it isn’t only bigs who are overpaid.  Every position has overpaid guys.

    2.  Chandler as dpoy I would hardly considered in same overpaid level as some of the guys you mention. Even guys like Nene with contracts I don’t like are basically paid market rate.

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    omphalos
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    If Bogut was healthy he wouldn’t be overpaid; he’s never really had issues with production, just maintaining his health. Having big guys is VERY important though; people will say L.A. won their last two championships because of Kobe, but it was the Bynum-Gasol-Odom rotation which gave them the edge against every opponent they played (except Boston pre-Perkins injury).

    There were no teams in the West (or the NBA) for that matter which could handle that threat inside until Dallas increased their size by adding Chandler and Gasol started to drop off in production. I’m not saying it’s an unbeatable combination, but it gave L.A. the edge it needed to win those chips, so even if some big guys are "overpaid", having size up front wins rings the vast majority of the time.

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    koyozoyoosa
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    It doesn’t help that McGrady has failed to become the strong veteran voice in the locker room even as his body has failed him. He led a player revolt against Detroit Pistons head coach John Kuester in 2010-11 and then was far from a positive influence in Atlanta last season.3233423

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    koyozoyoosa
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    Given how far his game has fallen off – he hasn’t averaged double figures since 2008-09 in Houston – teams are looking at him as a veteran presence more than a scoring threat, and he isn’t inspiring confidence in teams looking for a veteran voice.dsadsa

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    koyozoyoosa
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    It wasn’t so long ago that O.J. Mayo was one of the hottest names in the rumor mill. The Indiana Pacers tried to get him several times, the Minnesota Timberwolves were among the other interested teams, and yet Mayo found himself looking for a home in free agency this summer. 212

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  • #715038
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    koyozoyoosa
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    The Dallas Mavericks count themselves lucky to have added Mayo for this 2012-13 NBA season, and Mayo is confident that the new-look Mavericks can go far, even further, perhaps, than the super-hyped Los Angeles Lakers.2131212424

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    koyozoyoosa
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    Meanwhile, the Thunder didn’t do much beyond drafting intriguing big man Perry Jones in the first round of the draft and signing free agent center Hasheem Thabeet in free agency.5r34332

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  • #715047
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    koyozoyoosa
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    Only he wasn’t. He appeared in 68 games for the Grizzlies as a rookie, starting 13 times, and managed just 3.1 points, 3.6 rebounds and 1.3 blocks per contest. As disappointing as that was, his numbers were even worse the following year, and the Grizzlies dealt him to Houston before the NBA trade deadline, acquiring Shane Battier in the process.rte5322

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