as we all know by now Suns management is said to be reluctant to deal Steve Nash. Steve Nash and Grant Hill arguably the two most important Suns players are now entering the later stages of thier careers. It maybe safe to officially say the Suns window has closed, and there will be no more Championship runs for a while. The Suns cap congestion carries out until the end of Nash's own contract in the 2012/2013 season. They will have very little abillity to make deals, and next to no abillity to sign free agents to help improve this ballteam. They have a team full of role players guided by a Hall Of Famer PG Steve Nash. So basically this team is going nowhere and will be stuck at 9tth-11th in the West, and a 10-14 lottery seed until 2012-2013. At least thats how it appears.
Trading Nash could bring you wonderful fortunes and help rebuild for the future. A deal with nash would likely allow you to offload a contract such as Chiklress, or Warrick who were both huge misses this offseason. Also the Susn would likely be able to bring some youn talent in and a draft pick or two. With the 2012¸Draft looking like it maybeone of the best ever it would be the perfect time to lose a superstar like Nash. The team would be worse off then cleveland without Lebron.
Yet the team decides they want to stick to morales and pride for this player which will likely set back their team for close to a decade.
I couldn't agree with you more that the Suns need to move on from Nash. If they were still capable of getting to the WCF like they were last year I'd say hold on to him, but Nash isn't someone to rebuild around, because even if he's got say, four great years left in him, even if they do all that rebuilding around him, they'll get there and he'll be unable to continue, at which point they'll need to do it all again with someone new.
Personally, I want Nash to retire while he still has game, instead of slowly dragging down the Suns association who are too loyal to him for their own good. Yes, Nash will never have won a ring, but he'll go out with dignity and realise that he came closer than most, and got to be a two-time MVP along the way.
Trading Nash to a contender can't hurt the Suns in the long run, and I agree that if you're going to go for a rebuild, gunning for next year's draft is a good way to achieve this.
Much of the same can be said for Hill, except he didn't get a real shot before injuries took him down unfortunately.
looking at Phoenix there future looks grim, they really don't have any good young pieces. Lopez and Gortat are decent centers, but their not starters on contending teams; same with Brooks as he's good but not title good.
If they don't trade Nash they could have a horrible next 5 years. They really need to get some young athletic wings and a good PF. If they could somehow get Alec Burks then trade Nash for some young pieces, they'd be in decent shape in the future.
Steve Nash is the reason I became a fan of basketball. Dantonis 7 seconds or less offense pulled me right into the game. Steve Nash is by far my favorite player in the NBA and I hate to trade him but its just got to happen. The Suns have the worst future in the NBA. We have two good centers, but thats it. There is no young studs on this team. The Suns have to trade Steve Nash for some 1st rounders and some young players.
I think Gortat could be a starting C for a contending team, and same can be said for Brooks, you'd just need a pair of legit stars at the 2, 3 or 4. Burks could be the first piece to that puzzle if they can nab him, or whichever one of the euros drops to them to play PF. Next year's draft is loaded with great prospects at those positions; Quincy Miller, Michael Gilchrist, Harrison Barnes (if he returns), Austin Rivers, Anthony Davis, Perry Jones, just off the top of my head.
Say the Suns look like this in a few seasons;
PG - Brooks
SG - Burks/Rivers
SF - Gilchrist/Miller/Barnes/Jones/Pietrus if they go for PF and SG.
PF - Frye (I guess)/Motie if they pass up Burks
C - Gortat/Lopez
Give that team time to grow together and I don't see why they they couldn't contend with good depth and a better defensive philosophy (which Gilchrist in particular brings to the table).
Trade Nash to Miami or New York please :/
If Nash can make scrubs look good, imagine what he'd make superstars look like.
I do agree that the Suns should trade Nash but I just don't the Suns would actually do it. Nash might just end his career being a Sun and the same with Hill. Both players would be very nice mentors for the next players down the road. I don't see Brooks as a starter anymore. He had his chance in Houston and just whined and cried when Lowry took his starting spot this year. He didn't prove to the Rockets that he should be starting once he was healthy again. I don't cry baby starting, do you?
So I think the Suns should look to draft a PG this year, possibly Jimmer and have Nash tutor him. If Brooks really wants to be a starter again than he can have a do over at fighting for the job with Jimmer. The Suns already have plenty of forwards so I don't they need to find a replacement for Hill, they already have plenty. But selecting Rivers, Beal, Ross, or Lamb next year would be good replacement for Carter or they can also find thier starting 2 guard during the offseason. Possibly Nick Young.
The Suns front office is a tough place. In terms of the future of the team it's smarter to trade Nash and get young assets as they aren't going anywhere with their current roster. Also you'd think that they owe it to Nash to give him one more chance to win a chamionship. At the other hand Nash is the face of the franchise and the fan base would be smashing the front office for trading Nash as fans never have the ability to look at the bigger picture. It's a lose lose situation for the front office. If they trade Nash fans will be angry and will jump all over their young team, if they keep Nash until he retires fans will complain that they didn't capitalize on his value when they could have.
i like wat u said about nash being a tutor to jimmer. I think it could really do him some good. but i wonder if nash does ultimately get dealt where he would go. I dont think new york would be a good fit simply becuz of how much time nash has left in the game. he would be good for what a season or 2 at best. I think th ebest fit for nash would be after this season IF jason kidd decides to leave to go back to dallas and team up with dirk and give it 1 more good run. but then again thats just wishful thinking.....
The Suns are where they're at because of Sarver. What a douche! He's too much of a cheapskate to own an NBA franchise. After the summer of 04 when he bought the team, every basketball decision there after has been financially driven. Its so sad. The 05/06 roster that was so amazing to watch but was put together under previous ownership. Sarver destroyed the Suns Mojo. Since that time how many first rounders did the Suns sell? When they finally got around to actually keeping their picks they draft like $hit. Last summer Amare walks for pretty much nothing. I realize Amare suffered some injuries but he ALWAYS had the work ethic to come back really strong. Is Sarver shooting for the Donald Sterling award?
On a side note... I don't see why Nash couldn't play until his mid forties if he wanted. He's a runner, not a leaper. He keeps himself in great condition. His game management/shooting is not likely to decline.. and since his game has nothing to do with physically overwhelming anyone why not? He's the only player i've ever seen who could repeatedly pull off a figure 8 through a set defence. Dudes just can't strip the ball off him and they're too affraid to leave their man to chase him around. Nash wants to play untill he's no longer able. That could be a long while yet.
The Suns should trade Nash... but they won't because Sarver is a selfish jerk face. Yes I just used jerk face. As long as Nash is healthy and putting butts in the seats... the Suns will ride him till the wheels fall off even if they don't plan on providing him any help.