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All glory to the Hypnotoad...

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john bryant

who in their right mind hates john bryant jokes???? he is like the forum mascot.....

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Why hypnotoad no

Why hypnotoad no offense.

Also can I give a shout out to posters

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Dhamp
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qhaynes or whomever he is now
Maqik
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If I forgot you for the moment I will give you love later on down the road

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@MikeNikeYou and I have

@MikeNike

You and I have disagreed about a few things. One thing was when you said LeBron should've won DPOY over Dwight. I disagreed. Then you said Vareajao should be on the All-Defensive Team. I highly disagreed lol. Then we disagree about who's better between Kobe and LeBron. I think Kobe is the more complete player and has more focus/killer instinct.

Then we've disagreed about John Wall here and there. I think he'll be a great point guard... I'm just not willing to say he's going to be a superstar until I see him play in the NBA. I've never said that about any player before he entered the NBA... Other than maybe LeBron James.

@Sheltwon3

I have a close relationship with a lot of players from Indianapolis. Deonta Vaughn from Cincinatti. Devon Dumes from IU. Devon Archie from Iowa. Alex Young from IUPUI. Many others. I'm not dumb though. I'm not going to say they have a chance to be successful in the NBA if they don't. I also said that George Hill would be successful before anybody else did. I said the same thing about Courtney Lee also. I said BOTH players should be first round picks. Not because I was biased, but because I'd seen them play up close and personal, and knew they were being slept on. I wasn't suprised when Hill played well at the PIT and then was drafted by the Spurs. I wasn't surprised when Orlando picked Lee and he played well for them throughout the entire season.

I believe in Hayward because he can play. I've watched him up close and personal. He holds his own against Lee, Hill, Gordon, Teague, etc. He's just as competitive as they are. I haven't jumped up and said that he deserves to be a lottery pick or that he'll be a star. I've said that he has a chance to be a good player. He's tough, smart, works hard, can shoot the ball, is versatile and brings winning intangibles. He was held back somewhat at Butler not being able to do as much individually.

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ButlerBulldogs

You wouldn't happen to know Deonta Vaughn's workout schedule would you, as far as what teams he will be working out for?

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Kanye, Young Jeezy, T.I.

Kanye, Young Jeezy, T.I.

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Deonta Vaughn is the reason

Deonta Vaughn is the reason Lance Stephenson didn't play as good as he could've. Vaughn seemed like he was trying WAY too hard to prove he was PG. He had a poor season this year.

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I haven't talked to him in a

I haven't talked to him in a few weeks, so I'm not for sure. I've been searching around, but haven't found anything. From what I've heard, he'll be working out with the Pacers really soon. I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up on the Pacers' summer league team. He'll end up overseas.

To reply to your comparison of Hayward to Croshere... I think they have a few similarities and share some of the same qualities.

- Like Croshere, Hayward isn't an elite three-point shooter. He's a good three-point shooter, who has a knack for knocking down timely shots.

- Toughness. Hayward has that same toughness quality Croshere had. That do anything for my team to win toughness. Whether it's coming out of nowhere to grab an offensive rebound, providing energy or coming up with a key play whether it be defensively or offensively. Croshere wasn't the biggest or most athletic player, but he fought and battled. Hayward has that same quality.

- Combo forward. The only difference is Hayward is more of a SF/PF, while Croshere was more of a PF/SF. Croshere could play small forward as a scorer/shooter, but wasn't the ball handler that Hayward is. He also didn't have enough lateral quickness to defend other small forwards on the perimeter. While Hayward doesn't have great lateral quickness, he's shown that he can defend other small forwards on the perimeter. Croshere was 6' 10" and beefed up to 235 lbs. Hayward is 6' 8" 211 lbs. I don't think Hayward will be as effective as a power forward. Croshere could bang down there.

- Athleticism. Like Croshere, Hayward has underrated athleticism.

They have similarities, but are different players though. Hayward brings more versatility and is a much better ball handler. Better IQ and overall feel to the game. Croshere on the other hand had more size and could bang more down low.

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I appreciate being named a

I appreciate being named a few times, I know it's been awhile but some still recognized me so that's pretty cool.

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i will look out for you yup

i will look out for you yup yup to be honest i realize i have been giving more attention to people i disagree with than those I agree with so I am working on that.

@ Butler

I liked Courtney Lee coming out and thought that he size has hurt him this far and he does not seem to be that explosive but he game is NBA ready despite what he has shown.

I did not know anything about George Hill until he came in. He fell into a great situation though by going lower.

His game was able to grow and mature in San Antonio better than it would have anywhere else.

From what I have seen about Hayward he does not deserve a top 10 or 15 pick but since you are high on him it would appear he does deserve to be taken first round. I do hope for your sake I am wrong and he is more than an 8th man. I remember arguing with people about Stephon Curry so I understand your commitment. I know if you are right you will let me have it and I can respect that. i will tell you this, I will give you 2 years and if you are still on here and Hayward has not shown anything worthy of being at least a 6th man I will say I told you so in a nice way though.

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surprising

Im in shock that no negative points given for asking why hypnotoad lol....

all glory to the hypnotoad

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I suggest that all of you

I suggest that all of you listen to Butidonthaveanymoney

I swear on my power ranger dvd collection that he told me 3 hours ago that duke would win by 20+ points and they are now doing that.

He is so freaking smart

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ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD...

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My grandson.

My grandson.

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