[BBall4life88Participant]

Sometimes I can’t figure out Lebron. It seems like he underachieves sometimes, he was basically absent tonight on offense, 8 pts pretty much all on dunks…wtf?

[BBall4life88Participant]

 You would think Lebron was the one with the 102 fever

[NbanflguyParticipant]

He left his talents in south beach

[BBall4life88Participant]

 Props to Desean, he played a great game and Lebron couldn’t shake him.

[BBall4life88Participant]

 LOL. I almost forgot…They actually called two travels on the "King of Traveling" himself!

[TyrekeJonesParticipant]

Really thought he would come out tonight and send a message to anybody saying he has been underperforming ( which I disagree with completely) because he has been spectacular in these playoffs and has been a great teammate and really focused on finding teammates and scoring when needed while playing stellar defense, Wade has just had better matchups and has been exploiting them which is helping the Heat. I do not expect Lebron to have another game like this though, he is too good of a player to let it happen.

[iguapops420Participant]

 I dunno, but it sure does seem for all that size, LBJ has issues occasionally with guys smaller than him such as DeShawn, Tony Allen, and the slightly smaller Mickael Pietrus. While I agree I don’t see another game like this from him, it may have a bad effect on his teammates who have been known to roll over and die when things don’t go their way i.e. (everyone not named Wade,Haslem, and Chalmers.) It’s gonna be a battle, that I think if Dal wins at home again in game 5, may not make it back to MIA.

[BBall4life88Participant]

 ^^I agree, he hasn’t played as bad as his critics are making it out to be but it looks like he’s not agressive. He looks very passive, much like he did against Boston last year. He doesn’t have that mentality like Jordan, Kobe, Wade. Not that he’s playing bad but to me it just looks to me like he’s underachieving

[NickWayne87Participant]

 LeBron was playin like a lil B…….well you know tonight….He kept deferring…..kept passing, wouldn’t even shoot.  Does he not realize he’s LeBron James?  Take that sh….. to the rack like a man and stop kickin out passes to mike miller and mario chalmers…….they don’t want to shoot, it looked like "i’m not gonna shoot it, you shoot it,"  "No, I’m not gonna shoot it, you shoot it, i’m scared," out there.

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

Skip Bayless may be annoying, but LeBron is sure looking like "LeRobin" as Bayless called him the other day.

I understand that he’s trying to play off of Wade and do other things, but it’s time for him to start being aggressive and attacking. He’s not playing with enough energy. Somebody needs to tell him this is the NBA Finals where great players separate themselves from everybody else. Wade and Dirk are doing that. Great players give you something to remember in the Finals and other than a few things, I can’t think of anything that I’ll remember about him in this series so far.

I’ll say this though… IF it were LeBron who missed that game tying free-throw and just lost the ball during Miami’s final possession, people would be all over him. As great as Wade was, he failed in the clutch tonight. I can understand the missed free-throw maybe, but that was damn near an unforced turnover at the end of the game.

[iguapops420Participant]

 I don’t know, like I’ve always said. LBJ’s toughest defensive matchup is LBJ and his inner voice in the back of his ear. Some people no matter how good, just don’t have that killer instinct. Doesn’t mean he isn’t a clutch player, just that he’s not a part of the elite kilers who want to destroy you like Kobe, Jordan, Wade. I always said T-Mac had the same issues. It’s why players like them while able put up numbers and all, incredible unworldly numbers, won’t be able to get the job done as a number one. It’s why I always wanted Mac to team up with the Bean and be his sidekick and probably subconsiously why LBJ signed on to be Wade’s. He could have all of the glory up until the big show and when his inner voice questioned his ability to kill and he began taking a backseat, the true Batman(Wade) could step in and sve em. Like LBJ said " I’m a two-way player, what I do doesn’t always show up in the boxscore’s and D-Wade was having a good night." Sounds like  second option to me. Shaq and Kobe both wanted to be right beside of each other doing damage, not filling in making safe plays while allowing one guy to dominate. You’re Lebron Fucking James. Step up and be able to say, yeah me and D-Wade were just having great nights. That’s why we domintaed the game and won by 20+ the way it has been through ECF.

[ilike.panochasParticipant]

For a player with high basketball IQ, he sure doesn’t know how to use his physical gifts. There is no one in the league that can match up with LeBron, he should be toying with defenders like Stevenson, but he continues to settle for step-back jumpshots. He should learn from his teammate DWade who is constantly on attack mode.

[BBall4life88Participant]

 I wan’t to see that same reporter ask Lebron the same question tonight. That would be pretty funny.

[BBall4life88Participant]

 Lebron has no moves! If you look at Wade he’s doing crossovers, stepback crossovers, behind the back dribbles to create his own shot and Lebron looks like he doesn’t know any one-on-one moves. It makes it seem like he doesn’t practice any moves…such a shame with all his talent. 

That’s why he’s not a great closer. Being a good closer is about dominating your opponent one-on-one and he doesn’t have any go to moves.  

[nba00Participant]

I agree with you, lebron can get to the rim anytime he wants because of his physical gifts the only improvement that I see in his game is his jumpshots.  He needs to practice some 1 on 1 moves

[iguapops420Participant]

^^^True. Still think he lacks the fire as well. Having no go-to moves and just steam rolling defenders never stopped him before. At least not when the games had less meaning.

[Kinguy11Participant]

What was Lebron doing tonight?

Passing to Wade.

 

[ilike.panochasParticipant]

What he needs to add to his game is a post up skill. He’s 250lbs, use it!

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

LeBron is big… A physical marvel, BUT he’s somewhat stiff to me. He tried to copy Wade’s euro during the game and it just didn’t look right at all.

8th season in the league and LeBron still doesn’t really have a move he consistently goes to.

But to be honest… LeBron is great and I know he has the ability to take over games, but I just think he has a Kevin Garnett mentality.

[paradigmnParticipant]

 With all these LEBRON vs JORDAN conversations these past couple weeks(thanx scottie pippen) one more edge to Jordan, not that he needs another one is his lowest scoring game in the playoffs was 15 points as opposed to the 8 points Lebron just scored.  Obviously theres more ways to impact a game than just scoring but I can’t imagine in my wildest dream MJ pulling a "HARRY HOUDINI" vanishing act in any game let alone a playoff game.

[iguapops420Participant]

 ^^^Truer words have never been stated.

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

The fans want LeBron to be that guy. The media wants LeBron to be that guy. The media tries to make us believe LeBron is that guy. However, LeBron doesn’t want to be that guy. That’s why he joined Wade, who definitely IS that guy.

We’ve been led to believe, since he was in high school, that LeBron would be the next Jordan… Even better. We thought he’d be a killer. He’s a physical marvel and once in a lifetime type of athlete, so he’s capable of doing anything he wants really. He can close out games. He can takeover games. However, I just don’t think it’s his true calling. It’s not his mentality and he knows it.

I think he’s a KG type. Despite having the type of physical tools and overall talent players dream of, he’s comfortable rebounding, playing defense, passing, etc. He’s comfortable playing that role. The problem is… People aren’t comfortable with LeBron playing this role. Not after what we’ve been led to believe.

But this is who he wants to be. He needs to be more aggressive, but pat the man on the back for embracing this role on the biggest stage. He’ll get his ring.

[BBall4life88Participant]

I’m starting to come to that conclusion too IndianaBasketball. That’s why I’m confused and frusterated watching him because he has more physical talent than I’ve ever seen in an athlete but I guess he just doesn’t have that mentality, like you said he’s more like KG. He’s content with not being "the man", having that killer attitude like, give me the damn ball and get out the way mentality like Jordan, Wade, Kobe and Peirce. 

It’s also frusterating because after 8 years in the NBA he still doesn’t have any one-on-one moves to go to…when somebody plays good D against him he doesn’t know what to do so he just passes the ball.    

[ilike.panochasParticipant]

Too bad it will never be enough, regardless of how many rings he wins. There is a certain level of expectations for LeBron.

[BBall4life88Participant]

Well I think his first couple of years he lived up to and even surpased his hype coming out of high school. He came out averaging 20+ pts per game and got the Cavs to the Finals, but since then he hasn’t lived up to the hype following his first couple of years in the NBA because he hasn’t improved his game as expected. 

But now his critics will still say that having the ring doesn’t add to his greatness because it was with the help of one of the best players in the league Wade, and Bosh. I think if he had played the type of series that Wade is having and win the Finals MVP and the ring, it would at least shut some of his critics up…but he’s not "the man" in this series, Wade is.   

[KayjayParticipant]

100% Lol but one thing you guys are missing, is that he did do what he said he set out to do this game. Get his team mates open looks and make them better. However, Its obvious it isn’t working. I think he’ll bounce back. Just don’t understand his mentality though.

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