[BroadStreetBulldogParticipant]

He is saying the right things right now, about Toronto’s bright future, and how the city rallied aroudn the team.  I’m thinking that the 4-year, $48M deal that Ty Lawson got from Denver is a pretty good baseline for what Kyle will be worth on the open market.  With the series that he just played, Toronto might have to pay him substantially more than that, to retain him. Toronto still needs a lot of pieces to be a real contender, and does he really want to spend the remaining prime years of his NBA career up in Canada?  They might have to really over-pay the market, IMO.

I’d keep an eye out for Philly (his hometown, obv.) as a player.  Although they might wait a year to start spending their cash, they could bring him in and move MCW over to the 2. And then they’d play Lowry and MCW together, in a similar way to how Brooklyn so effectively played their 2-PG set of D-Will and Livingston. Philly could be an organization that drives up the cost for Toronto to keep him.  Thoughts are appreciated.

[benny15Participant]

 i would think the lakers would be the biggest competition of the  raptors for lowry. they have the money to spend and offer a much larger market than the raptors. orlando can make a surprise bid as well but i think its less likely and they could continue to go with oladipo and afflalo together instead of featuring a real point

[benny15Participant]

 i would think the lakers would be the biggest competition of the  raptors for lowry. they have the money to spend and offer a much larger market than the raptors. orlando can make a surprise bid as well but i think its less likely and they could continue to go with oladipo and afflalo together instead of featuring a real point

[tidhoParticipant]

Lakers offer a "much larger market" than the Raptors?  The LA market is twice the size fo Toronto, but they’re sharing it and the Raptors market arguable extends across the entire country.  That said, he should be on LA’s list, they need a lot of help.

Orlando would be wise to add a true PG too.

I think Lowry stays put though.

[Land of GrantParticipant]

Yeah you could say "Canada" is a much bigger market but it’s kinda small population wise (population of Canada: 34.88 million) and it’s a population that is more of a hockey crowd, and also one that is much less glamorous and alluring for Americans. Also, most Canadians don’t live in the greater Toronto, so they can’t go to the games, whereas everyone in the LA market that can afford it can go to Laker games.

The fact remains that Americans are more into teams from LA than teams from "that other country".

 

[Land of GrantParticipant]

Yeah you could say "Canada" is a much bigger market but it’s kinda small population wise (population of Canada: 34.88 million) and it’s a population that is more of a hockey crowd, and also one that is much less glamorous and alluring for Americans. Also, most Canadians don’t live in the greater Toronto, so they can’t go to the games, whereas everyone in the LA market that can afford it can go to Laker games.

The fact remains that Americans are more into teams from LA than teams from "that other country".

 

[tidhoParticipant]

Lakers offer a "much larger market" than the Raptors?  The LA market is twice the size fo Toronto, but they’re sharing it and the Raptors market arguable extends across the entire country.  That said, he should be on LA’s list, they need a lot of help.

Orlando would be wise to add a true PG too.

I think Lowry stays put though.

[TRC1991Participant]

I think if a team is going to pay Kyle Lowry $12 million a year, Toronto will have to move on. Love him, and his competitiveness, but I think he greatly overachieved this year.

I don’t like the 76er idea only because that team needs to build with youth, not add in a guy who’s going to take up a huge chunk of salary for a couple years at the same position that MCW plays. 

 

 

 

[TRC1991Participant]

I think if a team is going to pay Kyle Lowry $12 million a year, Toronto will have to move on. Love him, and his competitiveness, but I think he greatly overachieved this year.

I don’t like the 76er idea only because that team needs to build with youth, not add in a guy who’s going to take up a huge chunk of salary for a couple years at the same position that MCW plays. 

 

 

 

[JeffreyhardenParticipant]

 I think he will go to the Lakers, the Lakers are going to cut Steve Nash and spread it over 5 years (I think that’s how long they can spread it), sign Lowry 4yr-48million——Loul Deng 3yr-30million——–Draft Julius Randle——Resign Pau Gasol

Kyle Lowry  Kendall Marshall Jordan Farmer

Kobe Bryant  Kent Bazemore  Xavier Henry

Loul Deng Nick Young

Kris Humphris Julius Randle

Pau Gasol Jordan Hill Chris Kaman

 

 

 

 

 

[JeffreyhardenParticipant]

 I think he will go to the Lakers, the Lakers are going to cut Steve Nash and spread it over 5 years (I think that’s how long they can spread it), sign Lowry 4yr-48million——Loul Deng 3yr-30million——–Draft Julius Randle——Resign Pau Gasol

Kyle Lowry  Kendall Marshall Jordan Farmer

Kobe Bryant  Kent Bazemore  Xavier Henry

Loul Deng Nick Young

Kris Humphris Julius Randle

Pau Gasol Jordan Hill Chris Kaman

 

 

 

 

 

[Magic JordanParticipant]

 I sure hope the Lakers aren’t going to blow all that cap room for the 8th seed.  The big dogs hit FA in 2015 and 2016.

[Magic JordanParticipant]

 I sure hope the Lakers aren’t going to blow all that cap room for the 8th seed.  The big dogs hit FA in 2015 and 2016.

[SmooveKRYPTParticipant]

 Lakers and Kings (if they don’t draft a PG) are the situations to watch with him as far as competition for Toronto. I don’t know that he’ll command $12 mil/yr. I was thinking more like 10, but with there being a shortage of guards his caliber it’s not out of the question.

 

[SmooveKRYPTParticipant]

 Lakers and Kings (if they don’t draft a PG) are the situations to watch with him as far as competition for Toronto. I don’t know that he’ll command $12 mil/yr. I was thinking more like 10, but with there being a shortage of guards his caliber it’s not out of the question.

 

[IhateusernamesParticipant]

 Considering that the raptors were desperately trying to trade him 5 months ago, and only a greatly unexpected hot streak kept him in Toronto I think the raptors try to sign and trade him, and cash in on his value. I know they really wanted Rondo.

[TheTruth86Participant]

I hardly believe Rondo would go to Toronto in this life.

[TheTruth86Participant]

I hardly believe Rondo would go to Toronto in this life.

[IhateusernamesParticipant]

 Considering that the raptors were desperately trying to trade him 5 months ago, and only a greatly unexpected hot streak kept him in Toronto I think the raptors try to sign and trade him, and cash in on his value. I know they really wanted Rondo.

[morestealsthanscoresParticipant]

Broad Street- I would disagree on both counts. First off, Philly has absolutely no desire or inclination to bring in ANY veterans on big contracts, let alone bringing in one who forces your best young talent to change position. And in terms of Ty Lawson’s contract- it’s probably a good comparison in terms of importance to a ballclub, but I think Denver got this one wrong and if the Raptors do the same, it could set them back. I wouldn’t really go higher than £36m over 4, or £30m over 3 at a push, and if he wants more- fine, leave, rebuild.

In terms of destinations- New York, Indiana, Sacramento could all use him, but depends on whether they have the cap space (so mainly depends on if they keep Anthony/Stephenson).

[morestealsthanscoresParticipant]

Broad Street- I would disagree on both counts. First off, Philly has absolutely no desire or inclination to bring in ANY veterans on big contracts, let alone bringing in one who forces your best young talent to change position. And in terms of Ty Lawson’s contract- it’s probably a good comparison in terms of importance to a ballclub, but I think Denver got this one wrong and if the Raptors do the same, it could set them back. I wouldn’t really go higher than £36m over 4, or £30m over 3 at a push, and if he wants more- fine, leave, rebuild.

In terms of destinations- New York, Indiana, Sacramento could all use him, but depends on whether they have the cap space (so mainly depends on if they keep Anthony/Stephenson).

[Land of GrantParticipant]

He was really the 3rd best PG in the league this year, behind only CP3 and Curry. His slower, more upper body focused game makes it much easier for him to stay healthy than the 0-60, verticality guys like Rose and Westbrook, and he’s also a great defender and rebounder. He’s absolutely deserving of 48 over 4.

[Land of GrantParticipant]

He was really the 3rd best PG in the league this year, behind only CP3 and Curry. His slower, more upper body focused game makes it much easier for him to stay healthy than the 0-60, verticality guys like Rose and Westbrook, and he’s also a great defender and rebounder. He’s absolutely deserving of 48 over 4.

[BigChamp12Participant]

Ims orry but I’m just not big on Kyle Lowry. I think he’s definitely a good player. I don;’t think he’ll ever be a true star. I think he is what he is, A tough nosed, stocky scoring guard who can run a team decently. I personally wouldn’t want him as my 1st or 2nd option. He does a lot of things good, but I tend to notice a lot of things he does that gets him or his teammates in trouble. Not trying to knock him, but he’s just not my type of pg.

[BigChamp12Participant]

Ims orry but I’m just not big on Kyle Lowry. I think he’s definitely a good player. I don;’t think he’ll ever be a true star. I think he is what he is, A tough nosed, stocky scoring guard who can run a team decently. I personally wouldn’t want him as my 1st or 2nd option. He does a lot of things good, but I tend to notice a lot of things he does that gets him or his teammates in trouble. Not trying to knock him, but he’s just not my type of pg.

[KHAM83Participant]

I could see the Kings being interested in him. They desperately want to win/compete now and will do anything to make the playoffs. Terry’s expiring contract and #7 overall for Lowry?

Kings Lowry, McClemore, Gay, Williams, Cousins

Toronto- with #7and #20 picks can draft a combo of pf and pg to build around
#7- Vonleh, Gordon, Ennis?
#20- Ennis, Capela, Payton, Early, Payne

[drice4life1753Participant]

 Is this assuming Isaiah Thomas is leaving?  If not, I see no reason the kings would want to spend on Lowry when they have Thomas who in my opinion is a very suitable NBA PG.

[KHAM83Participant]

 Yes, I’m assuming here Thomas is gone. Everything I’ve seen throughout the season, the Kings don’t see him as there pg. Things could have changed, but what we think of him doesn’t matter if the Kings brass wants to look elsewhere for their pg.

 

 

[KHAM83Participant]

 Yes, I’m assuming here Thomas is gone. Everything I’ve seen throughout the season, the Kings don’t see him as there pg. Things could have changed, but what we think of him doesn’t matter if the Kings brass wants to look elsewhere for their pg.

 

 

[drice4life1753Participant]

 Is this assuming Isaiah Thomas is leaving?  If not, I see no reason the kings would want to spend on Lowry when they have Thomas who in my opinion is a very suitable NBA PG.

[KHAM83Participant]

I could see the Kings being interested in him. They desperately want to win/compete now and will do anything to make the playoffs. Terry’s expiring contract and #7 overall for Lowry?

Kings Lowry, McClemore, Gay, Williams, Cousins

Toronto- with #7and #20 picks can draft a combo of pf and pg to build around
#7- Vonleh, Gordon, Ennis?
#20- Ennis, Capela, Payton, Early, Payne

[thparadoxParticipant]

It’s so funny that people still are underrating Lowry. He basically does everything that you want… he’s good at penetrating, understands how to use the pick and roll, excellent 3pt shooter on spot ups and off the dribble, excellent defense, steps up in crunch time, solid passer, unselfish.

He doesn’t make top 10 plays of the week very often…

I don’t know what more you want from your point guard. He doesn’t have John Wall athleticism, so obviously his ceiling isn’t quite as high. But he’s pretty amazing right now. He needs to stay healthy and play at keep playing at this level.

At 12 million, it’s a steal.

Great post by @Benny. Almost every team in the league has a star point guard, or no cap space. The LA Lakers could pursure Lowry, but they might have to save cap space for even more enticing players like Kevin Love. Orlando Magic would go after him, as they could try to trade Afflalo and put Oladipo at SG.

Another factor is team situation. Lowry had playing time issues in Memphis, Houston, and first year in Toronto. Now he’s the star and it’s clearly his team (w DeRozan). This is a strong incentive to stay.

[thparadoxParticipant]

It’s so funny that people still are underrating Lowry. He basically does everything that you want… he’s good at penetrating, understands how to use the pick and roll, excellent 3pt shooter on spot ups and off the dribble, excellent defense, steps up in crunch time, solid passer, unselfish.

He doesn’t make top 10 plays of the week very often…

I don’t know what more you want from your point guard. He doesn’t have John Wall athleticism, so obviously his ceiling isn’t quite as high. But he’s pretty amazing right now. He needs to stay healthy and play at keep playing at this level.

At 12 million, it’s a steal.

Great post by @Benny. Almost every team in the league has a star point guard, or no cap space. The LA Lakers could pursure Lowry, but they might have to save cap space for even more enticing players like Kevin Love. Orlando Magic would go after him, as they could try to trade Afflalo and put Oladipo at SG.

Another factor is team situation. Lowry had playing time issues in Memphis, Houston, and first year in Toronto. Now he’s the star and it’s clearly his team (w DeRozan). This is a strong incentive to stay.

[FourParticipant]

I think he stays put.  Toronto can give him more money than anyone else, likely one reason they jettisoned Rudy Gay.  And while it is not always true more often than not players take the money.

[FourParticipant]

I think he stays put.  Toronto can give him more money than anyone else, likely one reason they jettisoned Rudy Gay.  And while it is not always true more often than not players take the money.

[Sewok15Participant]

The Knicks would kill for him but obviously don’t have any cap space. The Sixers won’t sign him because they should have two top 10 picks to fill their void at SG and SF. I would say he will likely stay in Toronto because he was a huge part of their success this year.

[Sewok15Participant]

The Knicks would kill for him but obviously don’t have any cap space. The Sixers won’t sign him because they should have two top 10 picks to fill their void at SG and SF. I would say he will likely stay in Toronto because he was a huge part of their success this year.

[BroadStreetBulldogParticipant]

What a time Dolan picked to put his foot down and say that he didn’t want to mortgage the future anymore. He sabotaged that deal because of a first-round pick.  Phil Jackson’s making huge money to steer the ship, but how can that team get any better if they don’t have a good starting PG?

Appreciate the thoughts here.  Maybe the Lakers would make a push, to pair him with Kobe, for Kobe’s remaining days.  The more I saw on the web today, the more it became clear that he probably will remain with Toronto.  He’s had some unusual circumstances with teammates in his previous stops, because of time-sharing and personality conflicts.  He’s got a team of his own now, so why mess up a good thing you’ve got going?  

Still think Philly might be a sneaky player @ the $35-40M range, perhaps raising the price it will cost for Toronto to keep him.  If I was running the Sixers, I wouldn’t worry too much about moving MCW over to the 2. That kid is so young, he could easily put on some weight, if needed, to get stronger for the defensive purposes of guarding strong 2s like Harden.  Hypothetically, if they end up getting Jabari @ the #2 draft spot, it would help to have a 2-guard who doesn’t need to shoot to be effective offensively.  On paper, I envision a starting lineup with Lowry/MCW/Parker/Aaron Gordon/Noel that could work pretty well together (throwing darts).  Probably won’t happen though – he’s probably Toronto’s to lose.

[BroadStreetBulldogParticipant]

What a time Dolan picked to put his foot down and say that he didn’t want to mortgage the future anymore. He sabotaged that deal because of a first-round pick.  Phil Jackson’s making huge money to steer the ship, but how can that team get any better if they don’t have a good starting PG?

Appreciate the thoughts here.  Maybe the Lakers would make a push, to pair him with Kobe, for Kobe’s remaining days.  The more I saw on the web today, the more it became clear that he probably will remain with Toronto.  He’s had some unusual circumstances with teammates in his previous stops, because of time-sharing and personality conflicts.  He’s got a team of his own now, so why mess up a good thing you’ve got going?  

Still think Philly might be a sneaky player @ the $35-40M range, perhaps raising the price it will cost for Toronto to keep him.  If I was running the Sixers, I wouldn’t worry too much about moving MCW over to the 2. That kid is so young, he could easily put on some weight, if needed, to get stronger for the defensive purposes of guarding strong 2s like Harden.  Hypothetically, if they end up getting Jabari @ the #2 draft spot, it would help to have a 2-guard who doesn’t need to shoot to be effective offensively.  On paper, I envision a starting lineup with Lowry/MCW/Parker/Aaron Gordon/Noel that could work pretty well together (throwing darts).  Probably won’t happen though – he’s probably Toronto’s to lose.

[OhCanada-Participant]

 Hes staying with Toronto he cant say that right out because this is a buisness not a soap opera. If he tells everyone he is staying no matter what and he loves Toronto they will ask him to take a paycut which is what they will likely ask him anyways. He has to leverage for more money.

But anyone who follows this Raptors team should be able to read between the lines. Derozan, and Amir would be upset if he left. Lowry is the leader of the "new and very marketable/profitable" Raptors hes not going anywhere.

[OhCanada-Participant]

 Hes staying with Toronto he cant say that right out because this is a buisness not a soap opera. If he tells everyone he is staying no matter what and he loves Toronto they will ask him to take a paycut which is what they will likely ask him anyways. He has to leverage for more money.

But anyone who follows this Raptors team should be able to read between the lines. Derozan, and Amir would be upset if he left. Lowry is the leader of the "new and very marketable/profitable" Raptors hes not going anywhere.

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