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What If Portland Took Durant over Oden- Bill Simmons' take

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IDC if Oden played with a

IDC if Oden played with a good shooter and a PG he went to highschool with.......Oden only hand ONE FRIGGIN HAND basically the whole year, no excuses and dont say Augustin wasn't ready, when Durant left he tore the BIG 12 up, he might have not played to his potential because of Durant, but he was ready and Durant also played with a very good shooter as well AJ Abrams....

A) Your right, he NEVER used his injured hand AT ALL when he played at Ohio St

B) I guess you don't understand the boost Oden gets by playing Conley

C) Oden played with Cook and Conley, 2 NBA guys in a 2 team Big 10 down the stretch ( Michigan and MSU were alright, Illinois was too but they didn't have the talent to beat OSU and WIS) Durant played in the Big 12 where they finished 3rd but it was tough ( 8 of the 12 had at least 17 wins) A Freshman team was lucky to finished 3rd in that league. Also, A.J. Abrhams was a good shooter, not good at anything else.

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"I was one of the few

"I was one of the few (admitted FEW) that would have taken Durant."

Well, congratulations lol.

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Gotta take pride in picking

Gotta take pride in picking my players right lol.

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@KidKyrieNJ Okay, we get it.

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Okay, we get it. There were zero reasons (other than being tall) why Oden should've been the top pick, yet 100 reasons why Durant should've been.

It's hilarious how everything Oden did was negative somehow (even the games he played well are conceived as a negative since it wasn't against a lottery pick big man), yet everything Durant did was somehow positive.

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The things people will say

The things people will say four years later lol.

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I admit Indy that the

I admit Indy that the consensus was Oden. Theres no denying that. But i KNEW KD was gonna ball in the NBA. He was on a bad team with a bad coach and made them look good. Oden was a part of a very good team, but until the NC game it was Mike Conley and Ron Lewis that were winning OSU tourney games and hitting clutch shots. Oden if healthy would have been a dominant rebounder and defender, but im still not sold that he would have been a bigger difference maker than Durant.

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Mr. Knick, you may have liked

Mr. Knick, you may have liked Durant better and I'll give you credit for that, but don't act like it was obvious that Oden was a bust and you could see all his injuries coming, and that he underachieved in college.

Hindsight Bias: The tendency to believe, after learning an outcome, that one would have foreseen it.

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So I guess I can gone ahead

So I guess I can gone ahead and pencil in University Of Central Florida in the NCAA Championship game for 2012 since the Jordan brothers who should be oooooo so comfortable with each other get to play together....gimme a break.

Just because Oden and Conley played together in highschool doesn't mean anything, Oden was not an offensive guy so Conley being there really didn't benefit him that much besides the fact that he had a good friend on campus.

O please man Durant being there took away from Augustin and Abrams, they were good players, for god sake Augustin and Conley are at about the same level right now in there proffesional careers just like they were in college, and Abrams was not a good shooter, he was a GREAT shooter, he shot 42 percent from three the year Durant was there lol you cant be serious

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At least Oden had a coach lol

At least Oden had a coach lol

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OMG!! Most of these guys are

OMG!! Most of these guys are so bias..With all this what IF Crap..

Oden dominated and played half the season with a cast on his hand..smh..Oden averaged 15 points/9 boards/3 blocks and shot 61% from the field....

Most players would've sit out the season,but this guy lead his team of mostly freshmen into the final game against the defending champs...And to say he had only 1 good game that college season..Is BS...

Urbanovreverything maybe you werent born when Olajuwon won back to back titles in the 90's...Or when Shaq beat the greatest wingman of all time in Micheal Jordan and lead the Magic to the Finals in 1995..And David Robinson was still a top 10 player when he helped Duncan win the title in 99....

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I don't understand why

I don't understand why everyone assumes it would have been a lineup with both Durant & Roy. Realistically if they drafted Durant they would have improved enough to not even be in range of drafting Roy.

This is why you leave the past how it is, you change one thing like Portland drafting Durant and it creates a domino effect of different outcomes and rosters, for instance Roy would be elsewhere.

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What do you mean? They

What do you mean? They drafted Roy first.

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The real questions iws what

The real questions iws what if the Thunder landed the #1 pick and got Blake two years ago? Or if they took Tyreke instead of James Harden

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LMAO, LONGTIME PEEPS

I just had this argument with a co-worker of mine. 2 arguments in 1. First off Im going to start with a quote from Phil Jackson, "if I were building a team from scratch, I would pick Dwight Howard over LeBron James, Dwyane Wade or Chris Paul."

Why? Because out of all the scoring champions in recent NBA history only one has won the championship and thats Kobe. While HE WASNT the scoring champion. I love Kevin, he might go down as the best ever, BUT when you have the opportunity to draft a once in a decade big man you do IT. Because basketball games are won by playing defense and rebounding. Thats what Phil Jackson understood. If you are able to protect the basket and rebound you are putting yourself in the playoffs EVERY year. In contention for the the Championship EVERY year. It doesn't matter how many points or blocks Greg Oden put up as long as he deter shots and rebound. And for the idiot who said playing with one hand (while that one hand is your off hand) isn't a big deal, shoot your dominate hand and do EVERYTHING with the healthy one. See if you can use scissors correctly or bowl, or score 15 points and grab 5 rebounds against folks. Non-sense. Im with Indiana its easy to say NOW that Durant was a better pick than Oden, BUT we aren't talking about NOW. Are we? We speaking about '07 when Greg Oden got finished playing for a national championship while KD was sent home early in the tourney. And thats what we have to go on. If this same scenario happens again, I would do the same thing.

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Portland

the Blazers are now getting punished for being dumbasses and firing the best GM in the league.....first order of business, overpay the balls off Wes Matthews....

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Mr. Knick, you may have liked

Mr. Knick, you may have liked Durant better and I'll give you credit for that, but don't act like it was obvious that Oden was a bust and you could see all his injuries coming, and that he underachieved in college.

Wasn't the case at all. When I first heard about Oden, all I heard was: The Next Great Big Man. I liked Durant early and thought Oden would be alright in the NBA. I thought Durant would be good and Oden alright. Don't know where you got that I act like he was a bust and saw the injuries coming. Please point out where I even acted like that.

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