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What do the Bobcats Do?

The Charlotte Bobcats, the league's worst team, have an obvious need for talent. Only scoring 87.9 ppg on 41.8% shooting, they are worst offensive team in the NBA. Giving up 101.3 ppg (t-3rd worst) on 47.5% shooting, they are also among the leagues' worst defensive teams. The concensus seems to think that the Bobcats need to win the NBA lottery and take Anthony Davis, who will improve the Bobcats' efficiency on both sides of the floor. And while I agree, I can't help but look at the odds against the Bobcats.

While the Bobcats, who will for sure end up with the league's worst record, will have a 25% chance of winning the lottery, those odds still mean that they have a 75% chance of not winning. Also, history futher emphasizes the odds against the Bobcats. Only considering the years where the worst team had an advantage at getting the top pick, in those 22 times that the NBA has hosted its draft lottery, the team with the best odds has only won 3 times (1990, 2003, 2004). In fact, teams with the 2nd, 3rd, and 5th worst records have won more frequently (at 4, 4, and 5 respectively). The fact is that as much as the Bobcats want that pick, and with all the "tanking" they did (at times a little too convincingly), the odds that Mr. Davis may be on some other teams roster by training camp are great.

So back to the purpose of this post. Considering that facts that: a) the Bobcats may not end up with the top pick b) After Anthony Davis, there are no sure-fire franchise players in this draft (or thats what scouts keep saying) and c) the Bobcats need major help right away, in what direction do MJ and the Bobcats go if the #1 pick isn't theirs? Do they go with eveyones favorite player (Kidd-Gilchrist), the uber-athletic yet undersized power forward (Robinson), the "safe pick" (Barnes) or Mr. Potential (Drummond)? Or, considering the fact that they won't pick lower than 4, do they surprise us?


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They are favored to go in the

They are favored to go in the top 3, but can do no worse than the 4th pick. 1st - 25%, 2nd- 21% 3rd- 18%, and 4th is 36%. Davis is obviously the prize, but even if they land him there is a good chance they will be in last place again next year. Robinson, Davis, MKG, Beal, or Drummound would all help, but I still see them finishing at the bottom next year as well no matter who they get. Davis is a game changer, but even if he DOUBLES their winning percentage they would still be tied for last. In 5 years this team will probably be very scary, because they are going to add some studs in the next few drafts.

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front court

Bobcats Backcourt is not terrible, what they must do in my opinion is to adress their need at the 4, Where Sullinger or Robinson could make them better at the offensive end (if they dont land davis) a nice offesive option could be Barnes, but i think they need to adress their front court first. Just take a look.

-DJ White, Mullens, Thomas, Biyombo... Raw talents and outside of Biyombo at Center, i dont see ayone as a starter in the NBA. Sullinger or Robinson could bring nice post offense right now.

Their backcourt of Henderson, Walker, Augustin, while not terrible it could be improved with a good second round pick, i would Take Barton or JaMychal Green. While Green could also help at the front in small lineups.

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Yeah, they'll be scary

Yeah, they'll be scary because they've done a great job drafting players and keeping them: Adam Morrison, Sean May, Raymond Felton, Emeka Okafor, Jared Dudley, Gerald Henderson.

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what should they do?

Seriously I think they should fold as a franchise. Forget that they suck as a team but I have never seen anyone wear any bobcats or stores sell any bobcats gear. I'm sure they do in charlotte but I havent seen it anywhere else. Right now that team has a bunch of great backups that if distributed around to other teams would make the NBA better

Either that or Jordan needs to make 1 more comeback to get some jersey sales and air time for his team lol

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fold?

I hear the calls for the franchise to be folded and maybe they are right. The truth, living in the general area I can say, that the bobcats and the nba in general no longer has the hearts of the sports fans in the area. Did it ever? I think so, people would point to the early 90s. But those were really likable teams, in an area that didn't have professional sports. I liken it to OKC now, in a way. The only show in town at the time. Then the NFL came along and that was that. Coupled with the Shinn ownership (ask N.O. how that goes). The Bobcats are never going to really work. They are a second wife when you really gave up marriage on the first. Sure the hope of the salad days brought people back but no one really cares. Bob Johnson was a name, empty suit owner. Jordan's not much better as a exec or owner. He thinks he knows what he wants, but has no clue how to get there. Plus now he's just a cheap small market owner with no idea how to put together talent.

Otherwise I don't know who they should draft if they don't get Davis at number 1. It'll be MKG, Drummond, or Barnes. And whichever will be the wrong decision. It just isn't going to work. And going local almost every time isn't helping either.

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fold?

I hear the calls for the franchise to be folded and maybe they are right. The truth, living in the general area I can say, that the bobcats and the nba in general no longer has the hearts of the sports fans in the area. Did it ever? I think so, people would point to the early 90s. But those were really likable teams, in an area that didn't have professional sports. I liken it to OKC now, in a way. The only show in town at the time. Then the NFL came along and that was that. Coupled with the Shinn ownership (ask N.O. how that goes). The Bobcats are never going to really work. They are a second wife when you really gave up marriage on the first. Sure the hope of the salad days brought people back but no one really cares. Bob Johnson was a name, empty suit owner. Jordan's not much better as a exec or owner. He thinks he knows what he wants, but has no clue how to get there. Plus now he's just a cheap small market owner with no idea how to put together talent.

Otherwise I don't know who they should draft if they don't get Davis at number 1. It'll be MKG, Drummond, or Barnes. And whichever will be the wrong decision. It just isn't going to work. And going local almost every time isn't helping either.

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You're giving a lot of credit

You're giving a lot of credit to the Bobcats by saying they are, "tanking." I would think everyone in the Bobcats organization would consider that as a compliment since it would be an excuse for losing so much.

But, at the end of the day... They just suck..

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@CountingStars. Look at where

@CountingStars. Look at where they were drafting though. 8th, 8th, 9th, 13th. They were stuck in NBA purgatory. They only times they got lucky enough to move up was in very weak drafts and they drafted Okafor and Morrison and those drafts did not have much in them at all. They have had horrible luck.

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Excellent post,

Excellent post, BrandNewChandler, that was a good read.

know drafting isn't an exact science and there are factors that are impossible to predict, but odds are that if Charlotte doesn't get the top pick, they'll blow it.

I was personally against the Biyombo pick, but the jury's still out there, but consider that they took Gerald Henderson (who is ok) over Ty Lawson, Darren Collison, Jrue Holiday, DeJuan Blair, and Marcus Thornton in '09.

They took DJ Augustin (who I'm personally quite fond of, but let's be honest, he's only ok) over Brook Lopez, Roy Hibbert, Javale McGee, Ryan Anderson, Serge Ibaka, Nic Batum, DeAndre Jordan, and Goran Dragic in '08.

They took Brandan Wright (bust central) over Joakim Noah, Rodney Stuckey, Wilson Chandler, Aaron Brooks, Aaron Afflalo, Tiago Splitter, Carl Landry, Glen Davis, and Marc Gasol in '07.

So they basically just have an innate knack for identifying marginal prospects who become mediocre NBA players.

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build from inside out

They just need to take the best prospect available. Davis-Drummond are guys you can potentially build around. MKG is a great prospect but Barnes is a better option to build around imo. Bobcats can't do worst than fourth overall,I think they rank prospects Davis-Drummond-Barnes-Robinson in that order. Not saying that's the best four, but that's the best four for the bobcats.

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Yeah, Barnes should totally

Yeah, Barnes should totally go to the Bobcats. You know, since the Bobcats haven't been notorious in drafting ex-UNC players and them panning out to be.... awful.. Definitely a great fit?

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They will take the best

They will take the best player available. So many needs, just take anyone.

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Take Perry Jones if they fall

Take Perry Jones if they fall to 4 and pray that Jones-Kemba-Biyombo turns into at least a poor man's
version of Durant, Westbrook, and Ibaka.

If they don't get Anthony Davis, then MKG, Thomas Robinson, and Harrison Barnes would all be solid picks and good be
better fits. After those guys look at Perry Jones (who might rise up the boards anyway) and then Andre Drummond. Drummond though
might be too similar to Biyombo. I would consider Barnes and Jones before Drummond. Too much risk of Drummond turning I to Kwame Brown
or not giving them much more than what Biyombo brings to the table.

They need to swing for the fences and go after a player with "superstar" potential. Even if the guy busts they couldn't have a worse record next year could they?

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MGK

If they fall I would say either MGK or Bradley Beal to sure the wing position. I doubt they will bring Maggette back so pairing Henderson up with one of the two would be great.

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Jones-Biyombo-Kemba a poor

Jones-Biyombo-Kemba a poor mans Durant-Ibaka-Westbrook? I understand it's hypothetical, but come on.. Kemba isn't even remotely comparable to Westbrook and is nowhere near as athletic. Yeah, Perry Jones is around 6'11", as is Kevin Durant. Welp, there's about all the comparisons you can make there. And hey! Ibaka and Biyombo are both originally from Africa! There's a comparison!!!!!!

Again... come on..

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They have a small point guard

They have a small point guard who can't shoot backed up by an even smaller combo guard who can't shoot. They have a shooting guard who has limited range. Their small forward appears as though he didn't think there would be a season, and the alternative is a guy who fell out of the rotation when moon-lighting in Spain. Their best power forward doesn't seem to want to be there, and his backup, while better, does not offer much in the way of upside. Their center couldn't start for his team in Spain, can't catch passes, can't make anything but a dunk, and while someone who will block a shot doesn't actually keep teams from scoring in the paint. He is backed up by a guy who really is becoming the modern day Slava (see ball shoot ball) and a guy who is quite possibly the only man who can lose a game of one-on-one to the guy who lost a game of one-on-none.

Ummm... Anthony Davis isn't turning that around. Sorry, the guy guarded space not a man, and was mediocre to average on offense for anything beyond the lobs that were completely set up by teammates. That would be the worst possibly landing spot for him, though to be fair probably everyone else. You take him in the hopes that along with two more top five picks in the coming years can elevate them from the pits, but they would still be in the pits with just him. If they fail to get the top pick, they cannot take someone with offensive limitations. Between 2-4 and 31, they need to come away with about two guys who can put up a combined 20 shots and get between 24-30 points per game for them. They probably won't be that important when the Bobcats ultimately play a game worth watching, but they simply cannot allow themselves to be embarrassed to the extent they are right now.

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MKG doesn't make sense. This

MKG doesn't make sense. This team needs to play slow and control possessions. MKG is an open court player. Drummond probably makes most sense if they think he can develop offensively next to Biyombo, but givent he difficulty in developing both, Robinson, the more finished product, is a better fit.

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the have to get better

the have to get better players...period. The only prospect they cant get IMo is Drummond cuz if you team him with Biyombo then you have no interior scoring and would have to move Biyombo to the PF, which wouldnt be good

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***( if they dont get

***( if they dont get DAVIS)*** They have too many front court players. I would take MKG. He is a baller. They dont need anymore " Mr Po's" I saw Drummond play against Notre Dame and he did nothing.

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CavsFan,

If you want to build a young team you obviously look at other young teams who pulled it off. The Thunder did it with Durant, Westbrook, Harden, and Ibaka. So what I said was the Bobcats, if they fall to the 4th pick take Perry Jones and pray that a Jones-Kemba-Biyombo trio at least turns into a POOR MAN'S Durant/Westbrook/Ibaka trio.

Kemba lacks Westbrooks hops, but has a decent first step and he had a great NCAA run last year. Kemba's stats are ok this year but he is struggling with his shooting as are other perimeter rookies. Kemba can run the point and also get his own shots. I think you want to pattern his game off of a Russell Westbrook or a Tony Parker or another quick score-first point guard who can get to the lane and is not really known as a 3 point shooter.

Ok, Perry Jones has been hyped and he is 6'11. He had his moments in college but Kevin Durant was obviously a far superior college talent. PJIII showed flashes but he was not too consistent. But, KD had the greenlight in Austin and Perry Jones sometimes looked lost in the offense. But again, Jones is 6'11 and a good athlete and while he might not turn into a Kevin Durant, I could see him being a 6'11 Danny Granger type with better athleticism as a baseline comparison. That wouldn't be bad and would turn Jones into an all-star or borderline all-star. As I said, if the Bobcats fall to 4 then they should think about rolling the dice on Perry Jones. Davis will be the first pick with MKG and T Rob being the 2nd and 3rd picks in some order. Then at 4 who would you take? I like Harrison Barnes ok, I think he could be another Sean Elliott type. Not bad, but I think PJIII has more upside.

Ibaka was a project. Biyombo is a project. They are both roughly the same size and are known for the shot blocking skills and dunking. Why can't Biyombo be a poor man's Ibaka? Or just as good if everything works out?

As a rookie, Ibaka averaged 6.3 points, 5.4 rebounds, and 1.3 blocks on 54% shooting. Bismack is averaging 5.1 points, 5.6 rebounds, and 1.7 blocks on 48% shooting. Ibaka averaged 18 minutes as a rookie while Biyombo is averaging 22. Aside from minutes, the one thing that stands out is the field goal shooting. If Biyombo shot a bit better then he would average more points than what he is doing, but the rebounds and blocked shots are comparable.

I think PJIII would give them the wing player they need to go along with a perimeter attack of Kemba Walker. Gerald Henderson would then be their third perimeter guy. Play those 3 big minutes along with Biyombo and Mullens and see what happens. If those guys can develop they can be a part of a young core that the Bobcats can then add to.

Then in next year's draft they can go after an offensive center in Cody Zeller, a shooting guard in Shabbazz Muhammed, another defensive-minded big man in Nerlens Noel, or an uptempo, athletic big like James McAdoo who plays the 4 and could play some small forward too.

I think that if the Bobcats get the fourth pick that PJIII would offer more upside than Harrison Barnes even though I like Barnes ok as a 3rd or 4th option. I just think that the Bobcats can't get any worse and that they need to roll the dice.

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"Why can't Biyombo be a poor

"Why can't Biyombo be a poor man's Ibaka? Or just as good if everything works out?"

Let's ignore the bad hands, bad basketball iq, and below 50 percent shooting on layups (and 40 percent total on non-dunks) to make the assumption that the two players are roughly on equal footing. There is that small task of getting a player comparable to Kevin Durant. If you can tell me that a team is getting a guy like Durant, LeBron, Kobe, Rose, Wade, etc, it makes a lot of players look better and a lot of flaws are able to be covered up.If you have a guy or multiple guys who do not need to be guarded, then to make it work you must have the talent to compensate. The more non-threats on the court, the easier that team is to defend. It is not complicated.

Also, just because a guy blocks shots, it doesn't mean he is keeping the other team from getting into the paint and creating/scoring. This is the old Wizards defense logic. Serge Ibaka blocks shots, but it isn't as if he really is a shut down defensive player.

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With the Bobcats going to be

With the Bobcats going to be picking no worse than 4th they can surely get a decent player from this draft, Anthony Davis is the guy they really need, if not they should look at MKG, Roninson and Barnes. I like Drummond as a prospect but cannot see how he and Biyombo could figure together night in night out on court.

MJ decided to go long term last year by trading away Jackson to get the 7th pick and so it is going to be a long rebuild via the draft. I'd expect them to be a lottery team again next year but hopefully the young core can start to develop. MJ can keep the cap down and maybe run the team to make a profit and look to get on a firm footing in a couple of years.

The worrying thing is, if MJ was playing on this roster he'd probably be the top scorer this year.

Coach Silas had done what he can with this team so he cannot really be blamed and I doubt someone like say Mike D'Antoni would accept the sort of money that Charlotte might offer although his brand of basketball might be a good fit for Charlotte.

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If they don't get Anthony Davis (I am secretly hoping that he goes to New Orleans or Sacramento) then MKG would be a good fit as would T Rob, Harrison Barnes, or Perry Jones.

T Rob can be the inside go-to scorer next to Biyombo's shot blocking and rebounding. T Rob has a GREAT motor and had a spectacular finish to his college career (similar to Kemba Walker). I can see Thomas Robinson, Biyombo, and Byron Mullens turning into a halfway decent 3 big man rotation with all three being interchangeable.

T Rob is also a great athlete, a winner, and has solid intangibles. Drafting T Rob means that the Bobcats have their bigs for the future already set. T Rob is a little bit undersized, but he does have a position.

That would set them up next year for either Shabazz Muhammed at the 2 guard spot or James McAdoo at the 3. McAdoo, T Rob, and Biyombo would be a promising, athletic front line.

So if the Bobcats lose out on the top pick then Thomas Robinson would be the best guy on the board for them. He would be there at the number 2 pick or he might fall to the 3rd pick.

With the second round pick there are some talented guys there, with guys who can score being their first priority. Kemba, Biyombo, and T Rob should be a good core with Mullens being a servicable center and Gerald Henderson being a solid complementary wing player. Will Barton is not very polished, fairly raw, and not the best shooter, but he can score, pass with flair, and he has some upside. Draymond Green could be a good core guy as a 3/4, either starting or off the bench. A good character guy with talent and intangibles. He would give them another good pick along with T Rob.

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The Bobcats need to draft the best available player. They have no players that they can really build around (Walker and Biyombo project to be no more than quality bench players on a good team, in my opinion), so thinking about positional need is the last thing they need to be doing.

If they don't secure the top overall pick, then they should go for the home-run in Drummond. I don't know if the leadership is present in Charlotte to help him achieve his potential, but at least it will give the fans some hope moving forward. They're more likely to settle for Barnes, but it ultimately won't matter. I like what PointMan21 said:

"Otherwise I don't know who they should draft if they don't get Davis at number 1. It'll be MKG, Drummond, or Barnes. And whichever will be the wrong decision. It just isn't going to work. And going local almost every time isn't helping either."

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jordan

Maybe they should sever with Jordan....he's been a disaster in both Washington and Charlotte

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Jordan needs to go and they

Jordan needs to go and they just need to draft better. Half those guys they've drafted since 2005 are no longer with them.

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Terrible drafting and

Terrible drafting and terrible team. I live right near UConn country, and I have never seen a single Kemba bobcats anything. keep in mind, that kemba uconn jerseys would sell out in a second, and those just had his number cuz they couldnt put the name on the back

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They don't have the

They don't have the organization in place for some of the projects on the roster and potentially to be drafted to develop.

They probably will see too much Kwame in Drummond, there maybe way too much bust possiblity there anyway. Barnes, may be too much like Marvin Williams, but more of a jumpshooter. But all those guys are second bananas at best. MKG is a textbook case of a difference maker as a young player on the right team. But put the ball in his hands on that team, he's not a creator at this point. And this team has not creator or imagination offensively. At best these are solid starter right now with potential. Which is more than the current roster has.

Truth is, last year they fire saled and started going young, but did so in the wrong year. Think that Portland gives up a draft pick for Wallace this year? NJ did, and NJ is desperate. It's not just going young but who you go young with and what you put around it. If you think PJIII compares to KD, this team has too many undeveloped low potential guys and out right bad draft picks to make him into that type of player. Which he won't be, he's about a third of the player Durrant was coming out of Texas.

This year might be right year to find some good players early, this might have been a better year to have that second lottery pick. I could see MJ liking Austin Rivers alot, but he doesn't make sense with what they hope they have in Kamba. Most people knew that was a weak draft. And next year has a good chance to be a good big man draft. But if you take the 4th big man last year that's a project and reach for the 2nd or 3rd best big man this year that's also a project, once bitten, 5th time shy. Knowing them, they pass on maybe a better player at the same position next year.

And Shabazz, something feels a little off. Maybe it's that 6'4 1/2 that plays up to SF. Kind of reminds me of some earlier scorers without a diverse game. Haven't decided yet, but so far kind of like young Jerry Stackhouse. But I do think he has the focus and drive to be a great player. And would be the type of scorer and alpha character the Bobcats need. But there are some other players out there that can be better.

butidonthavemoney, Thanks for the quote.

And I do like these players, MKG, Drummond, Barnes. If you have Steve Nash, or something close, getting them the ball and getting up and down, you might have something. But this roster of stop gaps doesn't work. To ask any of those guys to be THE MAN. Which is what they need and want and would eventually ask, I don't see it.

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It isn't neccessarily that

It isn't neccessarily that they're picking busts so much as they utterly lack a coherent player development plan. I think Biyombo could be a Ben Wallace type, but playing for this team he's far more likely to be Kwame and that's a shame.

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If they end up with first

If they end up with first pick smartest thing might be trade pick with portland and get their 2 lottery picks. Charlotte needs so much help 1 pick would help 2 picks even though they are lower would make sense add more talent to the roster.The could also swap with clevland who has 4th and 26th which 4 projects right now to be drummond and at 26 pick best player available. Portland has 7 and 11 pick best 2 players available. Something like that would help as they need A LOT of talent.

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I meant 2nd pick not first

I meant 2nd pick not first

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