What ChocBoy said about MKG
is 100% true, people need to stop it with MKG... Heres what he said
This MKG fantasy is getting carried away. I know people are going hate this response but it is the truth. Franchise player? Look around the NBA today and find me one wing player whose status is based on him being a great defender or glue guy. Franchise wings score and score big, its a bonus if they can when they can defend but they never get the status as franchise player for defending.
MKG can't shot and he will have to play the wing, he shot 26% from the college 3 which is a regular jump shot in the NBA. The writer say he has a hitch in his shot that needs to be fixed like that is a little thing. Do know how hard it to totally change the way a guy has been shooting for 19 years of his life.He will never drive by anyone in NBA because nobody is going to respect his shot they are going to stand way off him and say shoot. The NBA is a score first league, they can't have a guy on floor for 35+ mins that is offensive liability. Tony Allen is perfect example, he could score in college ay better than MKG, and had hitch in his shot. He can guard the hell out of people, even before Kobe started to slow down he really gave him trouble. He still great defender today when healthy he doesn't start becuase he can't hit open jumpers.
I know right now MKG and Kentucky are the toast of the town. Unless he is going to turn into Dennis Rodman who was the last guy who was a hustle guy that could dominate a game, and MKG doesn't rebound anywhere near like Rodman. That said Rodman was still never given franchise player status nor could he play on team that didn't have great scorers on it already. MKG is a glue guy, you don't draft glue guys at number 2 in the draft. Hey I like the kid but if I got the number 2 pick I am not touching this kid as NBA players go Davis, Jones, Teague have more potential.
Did you really have to make a whole new thread?? That's what a reply button is for...nonsense that Jones and Teague have more potential than MKG. WTF are yall watching?!
Chocboywndr said it best. This MKG thing is outta hand. He's not even better than tony Allen, I'm sorry. People get so caught up in fancy names and hype that it really is an injustice to some of these kids. Tell me this, if MKG hadn't went to UK and choose some other school, like let's say NC State or something, would he be even considering leaving this year? NO. No way, and to think people have him going number 2 overall is crazy. You have to understand, this guy is going to play the most well rounded position in the NBA right now. The SF. A number 2 pick as a SF is a big deal, because your expected to immediately impact you team, particularly on the offensive end which he is ok at best. Perfect example last year.Derrick Williams, he was a way..better player in college than mkg and he struggles in the league to be consistent. All I'm saying is these professional people who are after these kids need to change their system and how they go about scouting these players. Once a young player gets any kind of notoriety he is deemed a top pick. And the younger the better. It's all hype. At the beginning of the year it was all about drummund, now that the HYPE died down he's not considered a top pick anymore? Wow!
MKG is cool, that's it! Not even a lottery pick in my opinion. He's not even better than Paul George, and while I think he (Paul George) will be a good player he still struggles and in Hind sight I wouldn't even pick him #2 in this years draft.
...its only Williams rookie year, and he's playing the same spot as Beasley and Love. Heck, even Tracy McGrady averaged less than 10 PPG his first 2 seasons. D. Rose worked hard on his jumper, now he is considered above average. His work ethic is what people look at as being a player who can become a good shooter. Being a above average defender and average scorer is a rarity for a college freshman. He can be a contributor as a rookie in that sense.
i agree with what they said idc what people say
what are u watching, hop off MKG nuts and focus on his game instead of hustle things. Hes like Iguodala or G Wallace, what is his ceiling to you.????
I agree with what you are saying Taylor Gang to an extent but that doesn't mean MKG doesn't deserve to go top 3. OJ Mayo went third in the draft. He is a solid contributor to a playoff team. James Harden is another one that comes to mine. You don't always need to draft a franchise changer with a high pick.
Some teams maybe need an intangibles guy as much as a superstar to take the team to the next level, remember that Shane Battier was a top 3 pick in a draft. If MKG can have a medium to downside of Iggy and Crash Wallace then I'd think he'd be a fairly safe top 3 pick for a lot of teams.
The best thing you can bring into a nba franchise is a winning mindset and work effort and MKG has both in spades! I don't think he'll be a 20 point scorer but I do think he'll get around 16 and 6 ,7 rebounds and get every loose ball and cause a lot of havoc on defense causing turnovers, he'll be a nightmare with his motor to Go against for 48 minutes
I just don't get it. You make these huge posts, ranting and raving about how MKG is nowhere near a lottery pick, yet alone top 2, and than you go on to say he is going to be like Andre Igoudala and Gerald Wallace. Ummm so they would not deserve the #2 pick? They would not deserve a lottery pick? You just ruined your own argument there.
I agree with what you are saying to some degree. Yeah maybe MKG will never have an amazing jumper and might end up like Igoudala and Gerald Wallce, but that is still a well deserved 2nd pick. Those guys are 2 of the most unique players, especially defensively, that we have in the NBA. Hate to burst your bubble, but there are not going to be 14 hall of famers in this draft.
"Look around the NBA today and find me one wing player whose status is based on him being a great defender or glue guy."
Gerald Wallace on the Bobcats.
He is a top 3 pick in this draft though.
It has been stated for a while that this draft is deep. That I will not argue with. But if people are saying a ton of these guy have superstar status, that I will fully disagree with. With exception to Davis, Drummond, Worten, Jones III, Beal, and possiby Rivers, I really don't see any of these guys having a great shot at stardom. That's not to say I think even those players will be stars.
This draft is deep though. From 1-30+ teams have a shot at players who will have a postitive impact on their squads. I see MKG as a guy you can't go wrong with. He will have a strong positive impact statistically and intangibly on whichever squad drafts him. He'll get you tough buckets, play strong D, provide highlights, be a fan favorite, and be a difference maker on a solid/great team.
i think he is a great fit to a team that needs that, But not charlotte or the wizards. the wiz need a 3 and charlotte needs a star player... Tor would be a good fir for MKG, with derozan and bayless scroing, he goes along with Val and Drea, and Amir.. He is a winner but would be better suited for a team that has a star, ala what my sixers did when we got Iggy when we had Ai
Say Washington gets the 2nd pick why wouldn't they take MKG. They have their franchise player in Wall and their goal seems to be to change the culture inside that locker room, MKG is a perfect player for that role not only is he a glue guy that does everything but hes smart and seems like a great teamate.
He might not be the second best player in this draft (then again he might be) but he definitely makes the most sense for a team like Washington. Basically what im saying is it depends on draft order where he will be drafted but he is well deserving on being drafted 2nd if its the right situation.
"Look around the NBA today and find me one wing player whose status is based on him being a great defender or glue guy."
You could even argue LBJ as the ultimate glue guy.
Gerald Wallace 25th pick 1st round
Andre Iguodala 9th pick 1st round
Josh Smith 17th pick 1st round
Shawn Marion 9th pick 1st round
Trevor Ariza 43rd 2nd round
So if these are the guys who compare to MKG why do you need to pick him at #2. Apparently most players of his talent level are at best late lottery all the way to being found in the second round. He is a winner is so overrated. I would bet if you went back most of the guys in high school won in HS. Most of the guys who get drafted come from winning college programs. I remember them saying that about the Florida boys hasn't translated to NBA. He is a good player their no desputing that. What I am saying is he is not a #2 pick for the skills he brings to the table in any other year he would be mid to late lottery at best. He is all shined up because he played on national championship team.
yeah i see corey brewer
Top three is to high. I respect the kids game but damn are you guys really looking at the NBA game and saying surefire top three is correct on him?
I think MKG will be a solid NBA player, but I would not take him #2. If I have the #2 pick, I want someone who I can build my franchise around. I see him as a good NBA player, but not great. And even though Drummond had a dissapointing year at UConn, I would still take him #2. It's rare to see a big with his kind of potential.
MKG may not have the skillset of someone like Drummond but I would not underestimate how well his winning mentality and well grounded demeanour could come across at draft interviews. He may not be a superstar but if you could get a consistent guy like him then at the very worse it starts moving the team in the right direction.
Of course MKG won't be a franchise player, but who in this draft will outside of Davis? Drummond and Jones are probably the only ones talented enough and they both need to adjust their mindsets big time. In this draft why not take MKG #2? He's an excellent defender, he's unselfish, he can get to the rim, he rebounds well and is a solid passer. He's a jump shot away from being a big time scorer.
But Anthony Davis can play the 4, be a great defender and a glue guy, and hes the next TD, right?
Why pick him @ 2, even if he is a glue guy?
B/C the upside of the glue guys I mentioned was great in comparison to their draft position. Plenty of people would love to get a guy of Iggy, Smith, Wallace...etc...talent @ 2. It just so happens in this draft he will be gone by the time those others were selected. MKG has just proven himself more at the college level than them so he will naturally be selected higher.
Teams will not be upset getting a guy the caliber of those aforementioned at the 2 slot.
This is an interesting thread.
MKG is definitely a top 5 pick. He finishes incredibly well at the rim and is a great rebounder and defender. I see a lot of Marion in him.
I think people get too caught up with player's forms on their shot. If you get enough reps and gain confidence in your shot then you will be fine. Look at Shawn Marion. About 98% of WNBA players have better form on their shot than he does.
I think the risk in taking MKG is low. He's a hard worker and is a team player and still has room to grow. Franchise player? More than likely not, but he has the potential to be a very solid player.
I'm thinking Davis and Robinson go 1-2.
One very underrated factor is MKG is the youngest player in this draft. A lot of legendary scorers were not great shooters at 18. Yes MKG is18 and not turning 19 for a while. Gerald Wallace is a good comparison for most aspects of the game but he has a much better handle and is quicker, you do not have to be a great shooter to get to the rim if you have a lot of energy and relentlessness Jerry Stackhouse in his prime would drive to the rim every time and he is not even close to the same type of athlete.
Also there are so many guys who could not shoot at age 18 and could later on so who knows this guard could be damn near Lebron James possibly.
When Gerald Wallace was 18 athletically he would leave MKG in his dust. The fact that he is still considered an athlete after slowing down as much as he has tells you how phenomenal he was.
People who doubt MKG are completely wrong. This is because he has the one thing that you can't teach, and it is also the most important thing of all; amazing work ethic. You may think that there are many players that have exceptional work ethic but this just isn't true. I've watched Russell Westbrook since he was a freshman at UCLA and I have never seen such drastic improvement in a player, ever. Period. It's not because he was naturally gifted (he couldn't even dunk until his senior year in high school). He just has unbelievable work ethic as does Kobe and as did MJ. This is what separates the Great from the Good. MKG has the physical tools to be great, and this along with his work ethic that is said to be unmatched at any level, means that he WILL eventually be a star in the NBA; the only obstacle that could possibly slow him down would be injuries. This guy has that rare will that Michael, Magic, and Kobe all have, and the importance of this can't be overstated.