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    wesleymatthews23
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    After the playoffs we saw much improved performances by Matthews and Miles. Miles had his best season yet, and had an excellent showing in the playoffs. Finally I saw the potential that has been raved about him since the day he was drafted. (why do you think he was drafted straight out of high school?) Matthews, well I think we all know, he surprised everyone, even me. I think another comparison is in order for both of them.

    Matthews= Best case Jeff Hornacek, worst case= Gordon Giricek. Pure shooter, plays tenacious defense. His athleticism is something to be desired, but makes up for it with his hard work and level of play.
    Miles=best case Jamal Crawford, worst case= Deshawn Stevenson. Very athletic plays great Defense. Very good shooter. Goes through cold spells but is usually able to shoot himself out of it.

    Before you downgrade me on this comparison because of how long Miles has been in the league, remember 2 things. Him and Matthews are the same age, so both still have a lot to grow and can improve immensely. Also Miles came into the league very raw, so of course for a while he is going to struggle, but if you watched the playoffs this year you would have noticed how much Miles had improved.

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    IknoBall12
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    i think they made tremendous strides this season especially miles cuz i feel like the jazz were running out of patience with that guy. i was thinking that small forward and shooting guard were their biggest weak link. i think they could still use upgrades but this core could be good for the future. whether either of these 2 guys start or come off the bench i think they should be kept on the roster.

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    the barron
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    They played well and exceeded their low expectations but in order for the jazz to go the next step they need to upgrade at these positions. Mathews and Miles are fine backups but in order for the Jazz to win a championship they need better players there.

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    jazznationpresident
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    Both played really well. I think miles has the athleticism to be great just not sure if he has the mental part. The floater he added was nice. I think he can be a legit 2 in the league. Problem was, he was playing the 3. Fact of the matter is that th e jazz don’t h ave a natural 3. Kirlanko is the closest thing and he is a 4. Fact of the matter is. Hhe jazz need more size/strength at the 4/5 and a legitimate 3. Ithink with miles and Matthews and korver we are good at the 2.

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    Ahkasi Clay
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    don’t know if there is any truth to this, but have seen it in a couple of sites

    Miles and the 9th pick are being offered for
    Love and the 16th

    there is not much difference between the 2 picks, and if the Jazz are as enamored with Ed Davis as is beind speculated this might make have some legs

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    the27guy
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    I like both players a lot. I’m not sure about your comparisons though. I don’t think Miles is very similar to Crawford at all. CJ’s bigger, and a better defender, and he really doesn’t play a similar style. I think CJ has a ceiling more like Grant Hill.

    Matthews will never be the shooter Hornacek was…. but Hornacek was never the defender that Matthews is. Matthews can basically be Bruce Bowen with a better handle.

    I for one, really like these guys as the future of our swing positions. Now lets go get Pattrick Patterson, Udoh, or Monroe…. or pray Cousins falls to us.

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    jazznationpresident
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    I’d love that trade. Ijust said I liked miles but I like Kevin love, he is the nasty inside guy that we need.
    At 16 we could pickup a talented 3.

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  • #321450
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    bigblackNbeautiful
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    Yes, then grab Heyward or hopefully paul george

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  • #321532
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    jazznationpresident
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    I just looked up loves draft measurements and found that he is actually smaller than Patrick Patterson. I was down on Patterson because of size but his measurements were pretty nice. He isn’t that different from the other “bigs” in the draft. I do think he is a more polished player than others though, especially offensively. So if he isn’t that much smaller, seems like he would be a great pick for the jazz.
    But if you can get a young guy with a known 14/11 guy like love AND a nice young 3 like George or Hayward, that would be a great move.

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