Everyone is raving about how weak the draft is this year but when you look at who we are comparing these guys to, we seem to be coming up with some pretty damn good players. Take a step back and look at some of the comparisons we have made.
It just seems rediculus. Is this a weak draft or not?
Just based on everything I read, the answer is no.
In this draft, apparantly, there is another Pistol Pete, AI, Amare, Motumbo, Pierce, Vincanity, Bosh, Paul, Jefferson, ect.
Seems like one of the stronger drafts in recent memory. (Just a touch of sarcasm)
It could just mean that they are gonna be ALOT of busts. Which boads well for teams at the end of the 1st round. Someone is gonna end up with a Tayshaun-like steal in the 20's because someone is gonna end up like Rodney White instead of Paul Pierce.
Especially without Teague and me, this class is not gonna win rookie/sophomore games.
The comparisons are over blown.
We could easily say Rubio is Shaun Livingston (less athlete)
Thabeet could be Shawn Bradley
DeRozan could very well be Gerald Green
Jordan Hill = Keon Clark
You get what I'm saying. Comparisons are just way too optimistic. If you watched any of these guys play then you know the real deals and the pretenders.
Blake Griffin is a solid comparison to a more athletic Boozer, but honestly I see him as a bigger Barkley.
Other than Blake I see very little to be excited about. I like Tyreke Evans for his talent, but the ego has got to go. DeRozen may be good, but players like him are a dime a dozen and unless he shows something unique he's just another high flying uard who can't defend and can't really help you win. I'd actually prefer sign Gerald Green and his 5 years experience before I draft DeRosen.
Just my opinion.
I agree. I am just tired of hearing that this "weak" draft is going to produce players that may be going into the Hall of Fame. I wish when we compared people, there was a "best case" and a "worst case" instead of the "if everything falls into place and someone gets hurt and this guy gets his chance." Ya know what I mean?
Art22mac - u realize livingston without the injury is a top 3-5 pg in the league right now right?
c'mon man everyone could have been all that without the injury fact is that he is not top 3-5 pg in the league right now
I agree 100% with art22mac. I think this a weak draft both in terms of game changers at the top and depth. And to clippers, how on earth can you say for sure that Livingston would be a top 3-5 pg today. All we saw was potential that had some strengths as well as some flaws, and then he was injured before he accomplished anything.
If you followed the NBA extensively for the last couple of years, you'd know that this draft is on the weaker side. Yes, the players in this draft are being compared to some great players. Despite their high ceilings, many players in this draft have rather low feelings. There are fewer "sure things" in this draft compared to other years. For example, if I do remember correctly, these were some of the analyses of top players in the 2007 draft:
Oden : Rich man's Andrew Bynum at worst; no ceiling
Durant : Better Rashard Lewis at Worst; no ceiling
Horford : David Lee w/ better jumpshot at Worst; Boozer at best
Conley : TJ Ford at Worst
As you can see, these four guys' floors are all pretty high. At worst, these four players are solid starters for the majority of their careers with at least a few all stars.
this draft... with the exception of B-Griff
Thabeet : at worst Sammy Dalembert; at best Dikembe.... very unlikely; more like S- Bradley
Rubio : at worst rich man's Sergio Rodriguez; at best Steve Nash-like player
Hill : at worst Wilcox; at best, poor man's Chris Bosh
DeRozan : at worst Gerald Green; at best Vinsanity/ Stack
In this draft, the top players have a chance to be nothing more than rotation players. It is unlikely that all of them will meet their worst case scenario, but the chance of that happening makes this draft rather weak in my opinion.
...I know what people are saying...
you compared these players because we've seen them succeed for the most part. but if you remember the weeks leading up to that 2007 draft, these were the worst case scenarios most NBA people were saying.
what do you guys think?
I remember that there was a draft that was supposed to be strong and it was barely average and the draft after it was supposed to be weak and it wound being super strong and some player didnt even get minutes so it could be stronger. This draft is weak in bigs but everything else it has quality. Some of these players could be busts. There are more sure things then people will tell you. There are only a few attractive picks and also it is all about how hard the players coming in are willing to work. I think this draft may take longer for people to find their roles but it will be fairly strong. I was messing with the mock drafts on here and i realize how many talented guys were going to be at the top of the second round. I will say this there are no know superstars outside of Griffen. People will say this draft is weak to get some teams to undervalue a player that could slip into the 20's. Someone is waiting on their Tony Parker, Danny Granger. They need an All star to fall through the cracks. This draft could have that and more. i am actually more excited about this draft because of the mystery involved.
The bottom line is that nobody is psychic. After all Darko went 2nd in the best draft of the decade. Maybe best draft ever.
experts would say that these is a weak draft. i dont know, but there hasn't been a week draft in years. last year, the same experts said that the 2008 draft was going to be weak. well, turns out it's a lot better than the 2007 draft which was supposed to rival the 2003 draft.i think there's a lot of good players in this draft, there's around 4-5 players who can be stars and the rest would be good role players imo.
No bigs.. yes! Weak draft... No!
Every year there is a player taken in the top 5 that doesn't pan out and that has more to do with the teams and gm for not doing their homework. In a league were bigs (traditionally bigs) are becoming less and less important by the year why would people like at a draft and b/c a lack of bigs consider a draft weak when u may have multiple guards/forwards that can impact a team.
As of now, this certainly seems to be a moderately weak draft. It's always hard to guage the strength of a draft in the weeks leading up to it, because everyone starts hyping players up after good workouts and focusing on what each player could be if they were to exceed their full potential, which is unrealistic.
You never know who is going to pan out, and who is not, but if you look at the current potential of this class, it pales in comparison to most of the recent drafts.
I think this represents the general tone of scouts leading up to each draft of this decade.
2009 - Slightly below average
2008 - Strong, Very Deep
2007 - Strong
2006 - Below Average
2005 - Moderate
2004 - Above average
2003 - Very Strong
2002 - Above average
2001 - Moderate
2000 - Very weak
tHIS COULD BE A OK DRAFT I JUST THINK TO MUCH YOUNG TALENT IS COMING OUT TO EARLY YOU GUYS HAVE TO STAY IN SCHOOL AT LEAST TILL YOU JUNIOR YEAR. SO YOUR SKIILS ARE PRETTY DEVELOPED.
I would trade out...grab me a next years pick
That would not be a great move because this years has more depth. Next year just looks to have more attractive players because of some second and first year players coming out. Also the 2008 draft was supposed to be weak and to be honest it may be the strongest draft of this decade. There are many stars and potential stars in that draft. Some people did not even get minutes and when they do watch out. This draft coming could possible have 10 solid players this year and maybe 15 more down the road. That is pretty strong considering their strengths are point guards. This should shore up a lot of teams if their GMs are using their heads. Some of these players will play behind veterans until they can get their turn. people forget that steve Nash did not play much his first few years but when he did after learning from Kidd and KJ, he would up on his way to being an All Star and MVP
When there good there good
when there alot of questions...there bad
and when there average...someone always rises to the top
I wouldn't say that cause There are a lot of guys who has talent but needs a couple of years to get to their superstar potential.
the 3rd one siad.....when a draft look average...someone always rises to the top
94- Hill ( before the injury), Kidd
93- penny and Mashburn
83-Clyde, Doc Rivers
jaredpaul89 was probably one of those saying that Adam Morrison was the next Larry Bird..
What?? Why is that?
jaredpaul89 is coming to my crib, cuz he knows a lot about the NBA !!!
Nah...I'm not a fan of dorm rooms.
I dont happen to think this draft is as weak as people say. Its really just based on potential for a lot of players. This draft will be ok. A few players will have good careers and shine just watch and see.....