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WAS-PHI-GSW 3 way deal

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=84ndx7n

Sixers get: Rich Jefferson, Andris Biedrins, Jeremy Tyler, WAS 3rd overall pick

Wizards get: Dorell Wright, Nikola Vucevic, GSW 7th overall pick, GSW 30th overall pick

Warriors get: Andre Iguodala, Andre Blatche

I think it's a good deal for everyone. Wizards move back 4 spots, add a good wing defender in Dorell Wright, a young, talented big going into his 2nd year in Vuc, and shed themselves of Blatche's contract. They also get an exra pick at the end of the 1st round.

Warriors get the SF they've been coveting in Iguodala, and a quality big to backup Bogut and Lee. This deal, I think really can make them a contendor in the west if they can stay healthy. They also shed 2 bad contracts in Biedrins and Jefferson.

Sixers do have to take on 2 bad contracts, but both guys can contribute right away. Jefferson can shoot the 3, something the sixers desperately need. Biedrins, although limited offensively, can get boards, block some shots, and is a decent defender. And next year both these guys' contracts are expiring. They also add a nice young big in Tyler who showed some potential last year. With the 3rd overall pick they could go in a couple different directions. The 3 guys who make the most sense to me are Drummond, Thomas Robinson, or Harrison Barnes. I'm leaning towards Drummond just because his potential is through the roof and bigs with his combination of size, athleticism, and hands don't grow on trees. Also, he wouldn't be forced into the starting lineup right away and would get time to develop, but as a sixers fan I'd be content with any of the 3.

Let me know what you think


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So the Wizards move down from

So the Wizards move down from 3rd to 7th and get back Dorell Wright, Vecevic, and the 30th pick? It's pretty obvious your a sixers fan and not a wizards fan.

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I know most will bash you and

I know most will bash you and this is incredibly far fetched and unrealistic but if you break it down in principle it actually would make sense for all three teams. For Washington I think it would make sense the most for them. They only move back 4 spots which allows them to get one of Beal, Barnes, MKG, or Lamb. They get to rid themselves of Andray Blatche finally, plus they get a solid althletic shooter in Wright and a very solid backup bigman in Nikola.

For the Warriors Iguodala is exactly the type of guy they need. A real glue guy with a defensive mind. Having Steph Curry you need a guy who can help him out on switches. A starting 5 with Stephen Curry/Klay Thompson/Andre Iguodala/David Lee/Andrew Bogut would be incredibly competitive and balanced with shooters, defense, and rebounding. Would suck having to take on Blatche's contract to likely do nothing but at least he gets paid less than Biedrins who does nothing and they get rid of in this trade. Golden State could blow the #7 pick anyways by taking a Myers Leonard.

The one questionable party in this trade is Philly. Iguodala obviously has been the heart of their team for a long time but you know many fans have become restless with his inability to be a go to scorer and I think they could be moving away from him and focus on the youth core. Evan Turner and Thaddeus Young are similar type players to Iguodala so I think you could move him without changing any team schemes. Jefferson and Bierdins could both contribute as veterans at some capacity but obviously they wouldn't be future pieces to add to Jrue/Turner/Lou Willaims/Thaddeus Young/Hawes. Tyler shows some potential as well but the main piece in here is the #3 overall pick that would give the Sixers an incredibly solid and young core. They could go either Thomas Robinson or Drummond to grow as the eventual replacement for Elton Brand, or they could draft Beal if they want to move Turner to the 3, or draft MKG to take Iguodala's spot as a younger and much cheaper option. The biggest point to be made in this is that the Sixers will need to shell out cash this summer to keep two main young pieces in Lou Williams and Spencer Hawes. Not to mention Jrue Holiday and Turner will be up for extensions in the near future, so I guess they have to make a decision if they should part with Iguodala to keep the young core together. I think Philly is in a Joe Johnson type situation. If they keep Iguodala and resign him to that big extension they keep themselves in the playoffs every year but limit their growth by killing their salary cap and using their rest of their money in the next 3 years just to keep their own. And truth be told I don't think their current core can win a title. But if you move from Iguodala and Brand's huge contract is off the books next summer than you have a boatload of cap space and you can keep your young talent in house. It's definitely something to think about.

All in All it's an unrealistic trade and has its flaws but makes sense in theory although I'm sure most think it's crazy.

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This is a good deal for the

This is a good deal for the Warriors, who would just amnesty Blatche and be left with more cap room plus a superior line-up. It is good for the Wizards, who get plenty for moving down in draft where there isn't a huge difference between the 3rd and 7th pick.

The thing is, it is a very risky deal for the Sixers who take on two bad contracts and give away there best player. The Sixers just had an excellent season, so getting younger or any moves not designed to win now will really anger the fan base.

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You do realize you can only

You do realize you can only amnesty a player that was on your roster the day that rule was put in place AKA only the wizards can amnesty blatche

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Dont like it but i can see why some would

getting iggy is great, everyone is right in that he is a glue defensive guy, but getting blatche is like having a lazier more talented andris beindris. @bball fan, gsw used their amnesty on a 4.5 million dollar charlie bell, complete waste of the amnesty.

i think the wizards are good with the 3rd pick, taking a t. rob, drummond or mkg, their problems can be address with a minor tweak, they have the talent. dorrel wright and vuecic may be ok players, but as contributors and veterans, i dont see them bring a tougher mentality, which the wiz needs.

As for the sixers, beindris mite as well just retire, he looks like his mind is going to an after party in the warrior games. beindris shoots a ft pct of 20%, his range is 1 ft away from the basket, and he loves to push the defender when he's about to make the basket wasting his fouls. i do think they have a log jam at the sg-sf, and i think if they can give up iggy for david lee that may help both teams

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Dont like it but i can see why some would

getting iggy is great, everyone is right in that he is a glue defensive guy, but getting blatche is like having a lazier more talented andris beindris. @bball fan, gsw used their amnesty on a 4.5 million dollar charlie bell, complete waste of the amnesty.

i think the wizards are good with the 3rd pick, taking a t. rob, drummond or mkg, their problems can be address with a minor tweak, they have the talent. dorrel wright and vuecic may be ok players, but as contributors and veterans, i dont see them bring a tougher mentality, which the wiz needs.

As for the sixers, beindris mite as well just retire, he looks like his mind is going to an after party in the warrior games. beindris shoots a ft pct of 20%, his range is 1 ft away from the basket, and he loves to push the defender when he's about to make the basket wasting his fouls. i do think they have a log jam at the sg-sf, and i think if they can give up iggy for david lee that may help both teams

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@boomdizzle

Yeah, how could I forget that. Now that you say it I remember. Warriors should have saved their amnesty or used it on Biedrins.

@uconnmonster: I didn't realize that. I suppose it should be obvious, as it would temporarily distort the guaranteeing of salaries, which wouldn't fly.

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the warriors cant amnesty

the warriors cant amnesty blatche, you can only amnesty players that were under contract during the lock-out. not to mention that they already used their amnesty clause on charlie bell to create cap space to make a lucrative offer to DeAndree Jordan who the clippers mathced.

i do agree that Philly will be taking the most risk out of it by absorbing the contracts of both Jefferson and Biedrins, the deal would mean that philly is banking on their young talent to up their games and take it to the next level. you got to wonder though, is there anyone in this draft that the sixers really want that badly?

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my take; sixers view

Trading away Iggy and our 1st rounder from last year for two piss poor contracts/players and the 3rd pick just isn't going to cut it for me. Jefferson and Biedrins might just be two of the top 10 worst contracts heading into next year. Actually, they might both get amnestied (can't remember if either team used theirs yet.)

A deal I would be down for if the Sixers really really wanted someone at 3 and the Wizrds were looking to move the pick:

Washington amnestys Lewis. Lou Williams leaves via FA.

Washington gets: Iggy and 15

Sixers get: 3 and Jordan Crawford <--(Very unsure of what exactly his trade value is like. Maybe he is worth a lot more than I think.)

Why it happens? Washington gets a proven veteran who can provide excellent defense on a terrible defensive team and they still have a pick to replace Crawford at the 2. Philly gets a high pick to take somone they might really like (Drummond, Barnes, etc.) and a pure scorer in Crawford to take Lou's role if he leaves.

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The warriors obviously would

The warriors obviously would make out the best in that scenario. The sixers would be giving up there best player and there best young big man for the #3 pick and a bunch or crap/terrible contracts...this would not make any sense from their side.

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As a wizard fan hellno thats a bad deal we not trading are third pick for grabash players. We can just amensty Dray, the guys were getting back not that good and not worth a third pick overall. Are gm already said he's keeping are pick we In postion to get Beal, MKG or Thomas Robinson so trading are pick would be pointless.

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This isn't that bad of a

This isn't that bad of a decent deal.

Sixers get: Rich Jefferson, Andris Biedrins, Jeremy Tyler, WAS 3rd overall pick

Wizards get: Dorell Wright, Nikola Vucevic, GSW 7th overall pick, GSW 30th overall pick

Warriors get: Andre Iguodala, Andre Blatche

Philly would have a lot of options with the 3rd pick go with a Center in Drummond a scoring big man in Robinson, MKG scoring at SF. A lot of options you could alway trade down from 3 to 5 or 6 and get a quality player too.

Honestly this team has probably peaked esp. if the Rose is back healthy for the Bulls by next year.

Its time for a change they need offense and a legit Center, also Biedriends has 2 yrs 18 million left and he can probably be bought out.

The Wizards needs starters and Dorelle Wright is one and with the 7th pick they can get a SG or big man.

Warriors with Iggy would have a much improved defense and would have Blatche another big man to go with Lee and Bogut. A front line of Iggy, Lee and Bogut if healthy is pretty good and with Blatche, Thompson, Curry they have a nice young team. Also with the trade they probably save 4-5 million in the trade as well.

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