[festar35Participant]

http://www.fantasysp.com/player/nba/Danny_Granger/2888651/pacers-coach-frank-vogel-says-danny-granger-knee-surgery-will

So the consensus is that if healthy Granger will start in Indiana, my question is where?
He is an above average 3pt shooter and I would love to have him out there with George, however I don’t want George moved back to the 2 spot.

Could Granger play SG? How would this effect Lance Stephenson and would he improve the Pacers bench vs Granger?

[Mad MaxParticipant]

I think he’s assuming if Granger is still in Indy. I think Indy will try to move him, and Vogel saying Granger will start betters Granger’s trade value. It wouldn’t be best for Indy to have their coach say their best trade piece wouldn’t start next year or doubt if he would.

[Mad MaxParticipant]

I think he’s assuming if Granger is still in Indy. I think Indy will try to move him, and Vogel saying Granger will start betters Granger’s trade value. It wouldn’t be best for Indy to have their coach say their best trade piece wouldn’t start next year or doubt if he would.

[GlenTaylorSucksParticipant]

One glaring weakness of the Pacers is that they don’t have any bench scoring now that Stephenson is starting. If Granger is willing to accept a 6th man role, he’d be an instant contender for 6MOY, as he’d be unleashed to punish second units. He could be Indiana’s version of Manu Ginobili if they want to use him that way (by that I mean not start, but play more minutes than usual).

[festar35Participant]

That is my point, Granger expects to start and Vogel also said the same. I think he would be great off the bench but if he is unwilling to be 6th man I say start him a few (10-15) games, show the NBA he is healthy to increase value and then look to move him.

[festar35Participant]

That is my point, Granger expects to start and Vogel also said the same. I think he would be great off the bench but if he is unwilling to be 6th man I say start him a few (10-15) games, show the NBA he is healthy to increase value and then look to move him.

[kobyzParticipant]

“willing”?? come again!! who ask him?? Granger should do exactly what Vogal tell him to do without saying a word, Indiana paying him the big money and also he can complain?!!

[kobyzParticipant]

“willing”?? come again!! who ask him?? Granger should do exactly what Vogal tell him to do without saying a word, Indiana paying him the big money and also he can complain?!!

[GlenTaylorSucksParticipant]

One glaring weakness of the Pacers is that they don’t have any bench scoring now that Stephenson is starting. If Granger is willing to accept a 6th man role, he’d be an instant contender for 6MOY, as he’d be unleashed to punish second units. He could be Indiana’s version of Manu Ginobili if they want to use him that way (by that I mean not start, but play more minutes than usual).

[BenchWarmerParticipant]

Granger at the three, Gerorge at the two. Lance as a sixth man as a SG/PG. It would make there bench a lot better and overall give you more lineup choices.
Pacers could have a lineup of:
Hill, George, Granger
Hill, Stephenson, George
Hill, Stephenson, Granger
Or play Lance at the 1 and have George and Granger as wings
Or have Hill, Stephenson, George and Granger as a stretch 4

Lots of options and interchangeable player.

[BenchWarmerParticipant]

Granger at the three, Gerorge at the two. Lance as a sixth man as a SG/PG. It would make there bench a lot better and overall give you more lineup choices.
Pacers could have a lineup of:
Hill, George, Granger
Hill, Stephenson, George
Hill, Stephenson, Granger
Or play Lance at the 1 and have George and Granger as wings
Or have Hill, Stephenson, George and Granger as a stretch 4

Lots of options and interchangeable player.

[B-ball fanParticipant]

The best case scenario would be for Granger to come off the bench and carry their second unit. He could get quite a few minutes, still , especially if they sometimes put him at pf when the went small. But him starting and Stephenson coming off the bench still could be better than they were this year.

I think it will be tough for Indiana to move Granger, so I expect them to go into win-now mode next year and just go all in for a championship. Even if he starts Granger should help the bench, as Indiana could make sure they have either him or George on the court at all times during the postseason. I do worry that the presence of both Granger and George at the wings could take away shots from their post players, but there is no question Granger’s shooting could make the team tougher to defend. Granger just has to be willing to take a reduced role in the offense. If he tries to be a 20 ppg scorer again, the Pacers interior game will suffer.

[B-ball fanParticipant]

The best case scenario would be for Granger to come off the bench and carry their second unit. He could get quite a few minutes, still , especially if they sometimes put him at pf when the went small. But him starting and Stephenson coming off the bench still could be better than they were this year.

I think it will be tough for Indiana to move Granger, so I expect them to go into win-now mode next year and just go all in for a championship. Even if he starts Granger should help the bench, as Indiana could make sure they have either him or George on the court at all times during the postseason. I do worry that the presence of both Granger and George at the wings could take away shots from their post players, but there is no question Granger’s shooting could make the team tougher to defend. Granger just has to be willing to take a reduced role in the offense. If he tries to be a 20 ppg scorer again, the Pacers interior game will suffer.

[Mad MaxParticipant]

I still don’t think Indy get win a title with George Hill as their starting PG, he’d be a great 6th man PG/SG. That’s their biggest issue in my mind. Hill really struggled against Miami, and when he can’t score he isn’t much, not a great passer and struggles with turnovers.

Indy was on the doorstep of going to the finals and possibly winning a title, without Granger. Now imagine if you can turn Granger (who didn’t contribute at all to Indy this year) into an upgrade at PG, moves Indy up. Granger is a good player, and I understand why people might not just want to move him, but his value for Indy has deminished with Paul George taking over as the SF and Granger will be reduced to the bench. Indy would be better getting a PG out of Granger, rather than turning Granger into a 6th man, when George Hill fits that role.

[festar35Participant]

This is the exact option I would love Indiana to pursue. I would love if they could some how trade up in the draft and get MCW as the starter, by acquiring Detroit or Sac-Towns pick (both teams in need of a SF). Or go after a PG like Bledsoe or Lowry.

On the other side who is to say we can’t go out and get a guy like Calderon cheap and have Hill and Stephenson off the bench.

[B-ball fanParticipant]

Calderon could really help them, if they were somehow able to create cap space for him. He could really help their offense by giving them a true pg who takes care of the ball. I really like that idea.

I’m not sure MCW would really help them. Defenders will have their eyes light up when MCW is on the court. He will really struggle if forced to go against the Heat’s pressure. I think Larkin would be a better option, although I’m not sure how they would trade up. Maybe Ray McCallum could be an option at 23, as he excels at taking care of the ball and has some upside to become a good backup pg. I haven’t really seen enough of McCallum to really judge, I’m just throwing that out there.

[B-ball fanParticipant]

Calderon could really help them, if they were somehow able to create cap space for him. He could really help their offense by giving them a true pg who takes care of the ball. I really like that idea.

I’m not sure MCW would really help them. Defenders will have their eyes light up when MCW is on the court. He will really struggle if forced to go against the Heat’s pressure. I think Larkin would be a better option, although I’m not sure how they would trade up. Maybe Ray McCallum could be an option at 23, as he excels at taking care of the ball and has some upside to become a good backup pg. I haven’t really seen enough of McCallum to really judge, I’m just throwing that out there.

[festar35Participant]

This is the exact option I would love Indiana to pursue. I would love if they could some how trade up in the draft and get MCW as the starter, by acquiring Detroit or Sac-Towns pick (both teams in need of a SF). Or go after a PG like Bledsoe or Lowry.

On the other side who is to say we can’t go out and get a guy like Calderon cheap and have Hill and Stephenson off the bench.

[Mad MaxParticipant]

I still don’t think Indy get win a title with George Hill as their starting PG, he’d be a great 6th man PG/SG. That’s their biggest issue in my mind. Hill really struggled against Miami, and when he can’t score he isn’t much, not a great passer and struggles with turnovers.

Indy was on the doorstep of going to the finals and possibly winning a title, without Granger. Now imagine if you can turn Granger (who didn’t contribute at all to Indy this year) into an upgrade at PG, moves Indy up. Granger is a good player, and I understand why people might not just want to move him, but his value for Indy has deminished with Paul George taking over as the SF and Granger will be reduced to the bench. Indy would be better getting a PG out of Granger, rather than turning Granger into a 6th man, when George Hill fits that role.

[FutureNBAGMParticipant]

I still wouldnt be surprised if he were traded this summer. Im sure Indy could get back some good value for him, especially since hes got an expiring deal.

[FutureNBAGMParticipant]

I still wouldnt be surprised if he were traded this summer. Im sure Indy could get back some good value for him, especially since hes got an expiring deal.

[jjbutler73Participant]

One person saying something does not make it a consensus. A consensus is when everyone agrees. The owner didn’t say it, the GM didn’t say it, the assistants didn’t say it, the team didn’t say it, and about half the people here said it. That’s far from a consensus.

[jjbutler73Participant]

One person saying something does not make it a consensus. A consensus is when everyone agrees. The owner didn’t say it, the GM didn’t say it, the assistants didn’t say it, the team didn’t say it, and about half the people here said it. That’s far from a consensus.

[festar35Participant]

That one person was THE COACH!!! You know the guy that runs the team, decides rotations and who plays where and when. Continually Indiana Pacers “Organization” have said they want to see George and Granger on the court together.

[festar35Participant]

That one person was THE COACH!!! You know the guy that runs the team, decides rotations and who plays where and when. Continually Indiana Pacers “Organization” have said they want to see George and Granger on the court together.

[ryanhoward42Participant]

George is better suited at the SF position, meaning that Granger would have to come off the bench. I think their best option is to trade Granger for a pick in the draft and take BPA. After that, look to find an SG in free agency. Lance Stephenson is a good young player, but not a starter by any means. If they could find an SG to take the starting role, Lance would be a great back up in the Pacers’ system.

[ryanhoward42Participant]

George is better suited at the SF position, meaning that Granger would have to come off the bench. I think their best option is to trade Granger for a pick in the draft and take BPA. After that, look to find an SG in free agency. Lance Stephenson is a good young player, but not a starter by any means. If they could find an SG to take the starting role, Lance would be a great back up in the Pacers’ system.

[Taylor Gang MikeParticipant]

Lance is a starter.. Him and George have chemistry you shouldn’t mess that up

[Taylor Gang MikeParticipant]

Lance is a starter.. Him and George have chemistry you shouldn’t mess that up

[Ny2daDeathOFmeParticipant]

as he should. Im one of the very few who thinks he shouldnt be traded if they can retain everyone. He’s better then lance and he should be starting when healthy.

[Ny2daDeathOFmeParticipant]

as he should. Im one of the very few who thinks he shouldnt be traded if they can retain everyone. He’s better then lance and he should be starting when healthy.

[GoJOSH HUESTISParticipant]

Lol@ lance starting over Granger. Lance isn’t even close to bing as good as Granger. Lance comes off the bench and Granger starts at the small forward with George at the shooting guard. Simple

[ProudGrandpaParticipant]

This mother****** don’t even watch them play….

[ProudGrandpaParticipant]

This mother****** don’t even watch them play….

[GoJOSH HUESTISParticipant]

Lol@ lance starting over Granger. Lance isn’t even close to bing as good as Granger. Lance comes off the bench and Granger starts at the small forward with George at the shooting guard. Simple

[Taylor Gang MikeParticipant]

Not simple. Lance and Paul play good “together” they compliment each other. Granger will take shots away from George, who is an emerging great scorer who needs touches. Lance gets him good looks and lets him do hin

[Taylor Gang MikeParticipant]

Not simple. Lance and Paul play good “together” they compliment each other. Granger will take shots away from George, who is an emerging great scorer who needs touches. Lance gets him good looks and lets him do hin

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

Let the best man win. IF Lance Stephenson comes back a better shooter and decision maker, then he’ll keep the starting job. IF he doesn’t and Danny Granger is healthy, then Granger will start. It’s really simple to me. A healthy Granger is a veteran/leader who can provide shooting, spacing and better decision making on the floor.

The great thing about the Pacers is it’s not just one guy. It’s a group of guys who do it collectively. Granger isn’t going to come back expecting 20 shots and to have the ball in his hands all of the time. He’s a team guy. Another thing is he’s versatile. He can play the 3/4. He just makes the Pacers a better team.

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

Let the best man win. IF Lance Stephenson comes back a better shooter and decision maker, then he’ll keep the starting job. IF he doesn’t and Danny Granger is healthy, then Granger will start. It’s really simple to me. A healthy Granger is a veteran/leader who can provide shooting, spacing and better decision making on the floor.

The great thing about the Pacers is it’s not just one guy. It’s a group of guys who do it collectively. Granger isn’t going to come back expecting 20 shots and to have the ball in his hands all of the time. He’s a team guy. Another thing is he’s versatile. He can play the 3/4. He just makes the Pacers a better team.

[HitsterParticipant]

I wonder if a lot could depend on whether David West comes back and what sort of offers he gets. Coach Vogel might have in mind to play Grainger at PF if West did move on perhaps.

If they all stay then I’d rather have Grainger as 6th man as George is so settled at SF that I’d be loathe to move him and Stephenson has become a very good intangibles player and I don’t see him as a 6th man scoring spark

Of course Coach Vogel could always start Grainger and then go back to this year’s line up fairly early in the game and use Stephenson as 6th man that way with him still playing big minutes as SG and Grainger then plays around West and George. This way it gives Grainger a starting role almost as a sign of respect but the team still plays the system that was so successful this year and Stephenson still gets his good minutes.

[HitsterParticipant]

I wonder if a lot could depend on whether David West comes back and what sort of offers he gets. Coach Vogel might have in mind to play Grainger at PF if West did move on perhaps.

If they all stay then I’d rather have Grainger as 6th man as George is so settled at SF that I’d be loathe to move him and Stephenson has become a very good intangibles player and I don’t see him as a 6th man scoring spark

Of course Coach Vogel could always start Grainger and then go back to this year’s line up fairly early in the game and use Stephenson as 6th man that way with him still playing big minutes as SG and Grainger then plays around West and George. This way it gives Grainger a starting role almost as a sign of respect but the team still plays the system that was so successful this year and Stephenson still gets his good minutes.

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