[valentine]

Every workout he has been in he has impressed with each team saying he’s had one of if not the best workout they have seen so far and that includes high lotto picks. The man is a baller and continues to sway doubters where ever he goes. I hope he’s around when the lakers pick but it seems he’s damn near a lock to not slip pass Memphis late in the first

[JNixonParticipant]

I have him at 28 in my mock right now to Memphis, and I got questioned about it a little lol.

Vazquez is the 2nd best PG in this draft IMO. Would make the perfect backup PG. I thought after the year he had as a Senior he was easily a 1st round prospect. He’s not a good defender and he’s TO prone somewhat, but he can be a perfect change of pace to a conservative and/or small PG like Mike Conley or Jameer Nelson if the Magic look at him for the 29th pick.

[memphisgriz731Participant]

man i backed you on that pick. i liked it so much i changed it on my draft then i look at his workout video from the griz and he killed it there

[JNixonParticipant]

Yeah you did. Sheltwon said I had him too high though. I guess we’ll see

[memphisgriz731Participant]

Yeah we’ll see. You’ve got me on the Vasquez bandwagon now

[fliptonnParticipant]

I’ve been saying this for a while. The guy can straight up ball. He’s got size with no real flaws to his game. I still believe he’s underrated athletically. He can score off a pull up and go left or right. He takes pride in defense. Plays with heart. And he’s clutch if you saw any of the NCAA tournament. I think he’s ready for the league and will be a lot better than people think.

[BasketballGuru24Participant]

2nd best PG you need to calm down. He is not athletic and close to being a horrible defender and lets not forget isn’t a great shooter. He is a leader and have great vision, but this is the NBA were competition is more based on athleticism, he is going to be able to guard PGs in the league. Atleast if his shot was great going into the NBA i would give him some credit

[JNixonParticipant]

Who’s better at PG than him? He was the 2nd best PG in college last season, so who’s better than him at PG?

Bledsoe, who sucked when given chances to play PG last year?

Armon Johnson, who is a scoring guard and not a natural playmaker?

Avery Bradley who isn’t even a PG at all?

Who’s the 2nd best if Vazquez isn’t?

[JNixonParticipant]

Oh, and Vazquez is a decent shooter. Especially when left open, which he wasn’t alot of the time because of the load he carried for Maryland. Vazquez will be more efficient and effective in the NBA because he won’t have to do so much like he had to for Maryland. He’s going to be a player that benefits from less responsibility and the pick and roll reliance in the League. Just watch.

[BasketballGuru24Participant]

Depends coming into the NBA i would rather have bledsoe johnson and bradley. Vasquez will just be a guy that was known from his years in university he won’t accomplish in the nba.

[BasketballGuru24Participant]

It doesn’t matter if he can run a pick and roll with his vision, his shot didn’t really say much in college and his defense is horrible. At most i see him as a decent backup PG .

[JNixonParticipant]

I mean……I said I think he’d make a perfect back-up PG already. I don’t think he’s the 2nd coming, but he’s the 2nd best PG in this class IMO. The rest of the top “PGs” above him are all combo guards and either didn’t run their team the best or they flat out didn’t play the position at all. Vazquez will be a very good backup PG, he’s got the size and the pick and roll in the NBA makes up for his lack of great quickness.

[fliptonnParticipant]

except the pick and role is run to death in the nba. and he can shoot just as good as wall. i dont think hell be as good but he works hard and is better than people are giving him credit for.

[BasketballGuru24Participant]

im not saying he is shit but for a guy you guys are trying to convince me is pretty good and at the same time telling me he will be at best back up point guard thats B.S. Why you going to argue about a backup. I might as well argue for scheyer and say he will be better then vasquez. he is a better shooter and has great vision. Does the same thing and probably better .

[[email protected]Participant]

There games are very similar, both are oversized PGs, Turner has more speed and Vasquez has a better 3. Turner had shooters he could setup so he had more lanes to the basket. Vasquez had no help so he had to settle for jumpers.

I wouldnt be suprised if he puts up extremely similar numbers to Turner in per minutes.

Turner should be somethin like 15pts, 5ast, and 6boards in 35min.
Vazquez could easily be in the 9pts, 3ast and 4 boards in 20min.

[BasketballGuru24Participant]

How can u compare vasquez to turner. Turner is way more athletic can play some defense and can play 3 positions. I also think he a better ball handler then vasquez.

[JNixonParticipant]

So because he’s a backup he can’t be a good player? Is that what you’re saying?

Jon Scheyer hangs around the perimeter and swings the ball to open shooters. He did nothing better than Vazquez last season other make spot up shots. That’s why Vazquez was ACC PLayer of the Year over him sir.

Vazquez slashes the lane and creates for himself and everybody on that Maryland team. Scheyer and Vazquez played different roles and Vazquez was better individually.

Arguing for Vazquez isn’t like arguing for Scheyer. Vazquez has a much better chance of being in a rotation than Scheyer does of MAKING A TEAM AT ALL.

[BasketballGuru24Participant]

it was a sarcastic remark dammit. Your telling me this draft so weak that we arguing that vasquez is the 2nd best PG and he will be a pretty good back up at best. Come On , half you guys aren’t feeding me info. Okay he won ACC player of the year, he averaged good numbers, but NCAA and the NBA are too different things. You just have to known how to run a offense to be great in the NCAA don’t really need Defense , since they running all sorts of traps but in the NBA you need to be athletic and a good defender, i don’t see any potential in him. He will be okay but not great or even close to all star level.

[piratejpParticipant]

I never really understood why people were so down on him to begin with.

It reminds me of Ty Lawson last year and Mario Chalmers the year before (situation, not game): PGs who teams overanalyze – focusing on their numbers and ignoring the fact that they are ballers. He’ll be picked after a bunch of guys who are out of the league while he’s playing quality minutes somewhere.

[JNixonParticipant]

Nobody can tell you’re being sarcastic because 1. your on the internet and 2. you keep saying stupid stuff like “Jon Scheyer does all the same stuff he does but better”, “it doesn’t matter if he can run the pick and roll with his vision (whatever that means)”, and “I might as well argue for Scheyer and say he will be better than Vazquez”

The NBA and college are different, that’s Vazquez will be more efficient than he was in college. Alot of his weaknesses will be alleviated by the way the NBA game is played. His athleticism makes him a bad defender, but he can be very effective offensively. Bottom line. Not everybody will be an All-Star, just remember you have to have good backups too.

[BasketballGuru24Participant]

your literally saying fuck defense let him get destroyed then benched 2 mins later don’t matter if you doing good offensively you have to be able to defend your man if you can’t you won’t make it in the league. I see him as a journeyman just travelling team to team.

[SpencerIsHawesome2Participant]

Vasquez’s ceiling is a good backup PG.

[sheltwon3Participant]

I did. I like Vaquez as a top point off the bench but i can’t see him as a starter but hey I could be wrong. I actually like him but there are guys just as talented who have more potential. I will agree he is probably the second best point guard from a play making standpoint but this is just a weak point guard draft and teams should not be reaching but I could see a team with two first rounders take him but I see him as a early to mid 2nd rounder.

If he goes first round I doubt he outplays any of the player in the early 2nd round. I also believe Blesoe and kid from Alabama will be better point guards.

[sheltwon3Participant]

I did. I like Vaquez as a top point off the bench but i can’t see him as a starter but hey I could be wrong. I actually like him but there are guys just as talented who have more potential. I will agree he is probably the second best point guard from a play making standpoint but this is just a weak point guard draft and teams should not be reaching but I could see a team with two first rounders take him but I see him as a early to mid 2nd rounder.

If he goes first round I doubt he outplays any of the player in the early 2nd round. I also believe Blesoe and kid from Alabama will be better point guards.

[sheltwon3Participant]

J iggy I did agree with most of what you put though. I just told you my thoughts, I will move him up higher though since hearing about his good workouts but I am still putting him second round though

[rtbtParticipant]

I think JNixon-Iggy9’s analysis is fairly close to mine. However I would like to bring up some points I believe others missed.

1. Vasquez is one of those players you cannot simply measure in terms of quickness and speed. He’s a guy who has those special intangibles in terms of his ability to take over a game.

2. I think Vasquez is a better shooter than BasketballGuru24 gives him credit for.

3. His man on man defense is poor but he’s terrific with weak side help and anticipating plays.

4. Although he’s an incredible passer, he tends to get out of control too often.

5. Finally, Vasquez would not be the first NBA PG who is weak on defense. There are many others on the list.

Once again, I agree with JNixon-Iggy9 in that I don’t see many point guards who are better. I also predict he will go very late in the first or early in the 2nd round. I don’t anticipate him being a star in the NBA, but on the right team, he could be exactly what they need.

[The Scare Crow ReturnsParticipant]

I’ll give up Meeks and J.Smith for this Guy…Even Lou Will Straight up…Give me a 6’4 point guard with great vision and heart…he can lead a bench of athletic slashers and shooters…get them the best possible shots and make every one around him better…To me he’s on par with Ricky Rubio…that comment will get me Killed but look at their games side by side…6’4, non athletic, flashy passers with question marks on defense…I believe they’ll have similar Per.’s as well…If The Kings drafted Him and give him the reigns over Udrih in a year..he’ll have very much the same impact Rubio will minus the Hype…now minus away…I think Vasquez is a starter…If Calderon and Udrih and Chalmers are starters…Then why not Vasquez….

[FastAndFuriousParticipant]

LOL dude said he would give up Louis Williams for Vasquez….thats going a little tooooooooooooo far

I’m not a big fan of Vasquez, but I do think he could be a decent back up in the league.

Some say he’s the second best PG in this draft class and I’m not buying that, you have John Wall and Jerome Randle

[The Scare Crow ReturnsParticipant]

Lou is a 6’3 ball hog with crazy offense…I’d rather have a solid back up point and another role player that can block shots…2 rounders early for Vasquez and Jerome Jordan would be the Truth…Gets rid of that 5 million dollar contract too…We have some serious holes on our team…We need to get creative…That’s a good deal Deal…Lets say it’s a deal to Memphis…Lou Williams and Jason Smith for the 25th and 28th picks…We’d get two players that can help us like Vasquez and possibly Alabi or Varnado or Jordan…

[kobyzParticipant]

Vasquez remind me of Beno Udrich – bigger

[SpencerIsHawesome2Participant]

He’s nothing like Beno.. Beno is efficient, doesn’t turn the ball over, and plays in control… Vasquez is inefficient, turnover prone, and plays out of control.

[stanford hoops]

since you really question his shot check out draftexpress break down of each pg shooting. you will be suprised that vasquez shot better then most of the other pg and was in the top 5 in just about every other catagory

And ive been talking about vasquez for years. i dont recall anyone else backing me up on him at first

[knicksfan7Participant]

Well I guess if Memphis is sold on him then I hope my Knicks try to buy a pick in order to get him. He is very good for D’Antoni’s system. In D’antoni’s system he can be a top 15 APG in the league (that is around 6 APG).

[scoutguruParticipant]

Bob Cousy award winner this past season.

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