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Andre Drummond-didn’t watch a ton of pistons but seems like a no brainer. I only include him on here in case someone has a compelling argument as to why he should not belong with LeBron and Durant as the clear max guys.

demar derozan- he is not the superstar you want to lead your team, but he going to get max from someone right?

pau gasol-gasol turned down a lot of money from the lakers to go to Chicago proving winning is more important to him then the green. But with Chicago not even making the playoffs this year, what might he get on the open market?

al horford-as a vet, he is eligible for crazy money. Everyone likes him and appreciates what he brings, but he is also not the sexy guy you think turns your franchise around either. So what do you think he gets?

Bradley beal-the wizards cant be happy about missing playoffs. But they still have some young core pieces in wall, beal and porter. Again, I think beal gets a max deal somewhere, and I cant see the wizards letting him go seeing as how he is restricted.

Dwight howard-he has a player option for 22.3 million. No way he sees that on the open market. However he is also about to get swept and cant be happy in his current situation. Does he decide to leave and if so what do you see teams offering him?

mike conley-always a solid guy but never an all-star and now coming off back to back injury riddled seasons. The positive people will say he is an all-star caliber guy who plays the right way and does all the right things to help a team win. But now with health issues and the fact he isn’t exactly an explosive takeover type guy, is he a 10 mill per, 15 mill per or 20 mill per type guy?

Hassan whiteside-13pts..12rebs…4blcks…dude balled out in his free agency year surely earning big bucks. Do you max him out for over 20 mill per or try and and get him closer to 18 million per year and risk losing him to someone else?

Harrison barnes- he already turned down 16 mill per from the warriors, but I cant imagine him getting much more attention then that. I personally see him as a 15 mill per guy but maybe somebody panics and throws 18 mill at him. ANymore then that and that team deserves to be publicly shamed.

Nicolas batum- had a terrific year with 16…6…6 averages while playing his custom solid defense. Every team would love him because he doesn’t demand the ball just plays his role perfectly and does all the right things. However he is also a role player. So how much do you think he gets?

some other interesting free agents: kent bazemore(solid two way player who shouldn’t cost too much)….festus ezeli(everyone loves promising young centers, who throws him the money hoping he can be the starting center?)

feel free to talk about any free agents you like or anything regarding free agency. As a laker fan, surely you can understand my interest in this topic. Actually, with the way things have gone recently in free agency with guys getting over paid on the regular, this subject always interests me.

[ExumInfernoParticipant]

 They all get the max, and two exceptions, with Gasol under that but more than he got this season and Batum also a bit under tha max.

Half the NBA teams have room for a max player, some for two, so players will be overpaid.

Everyone’s getting "Joe Johnson money".  Which leaves one question, how much will Johnson get next season?  Maybe a third to half his current money?

Lakers might have close to $70,000,000 to spend.  That is a lot.  DeRozen and H Barnes, possible.  

 

 

 

[ExumInfernoParticipant]

 They all get the max, and two exceptions, with Gasol under that but more than he got this season and Batum also a bit under tha max.

Half the NBA teams have room for a max player, some for two, so players will be overpaid.

Everyone’s getting "Joe Johnson money".  Which leaves one question, how much will Johnson get next season?  Maybe a third to half his current money?

Lakers might have close to $70,000,000 to spend.  That is a lot.  DeRozen and H Barnes, possible.  

 

 

 

[d-grizzlyParticipant]

Drummond – no brainer as you put it.

Derozan – he hasn’t led a team, nor do I think he has it in him to ever do so. He’ll get the max anyway or sign for less to build to compete.

Pau – Not a max; probably won’t even get a max offer from any team. I see him going somewhere to contend for one last ring.

Horford – Has not demonstrated that he’s a first option. I think he could be a good second option if there was a superstar that led the team he was on. He’ll probably get one or two max offers and accept an offer from a team that gives him the best chance to compete for a championship while still making decent bucks.

Beal – Watch him get multiple max offers. We are in an era that overvalues pg/sg/guard play and will pay way too much. I think the wizards will let him go and move other pieces if there is a chance to sign Durant/make room for additional free agents. 

Howard – Will get max offers; however, I think he signs with a team while taking somewhat of a paycut to compete. I think he’s done with the Rockets.

Conely – I think this really depends on a couple factors. Zbo is getting pretty old. Marc is getting older. Outside of that, they only have second-stringers inserting themselves in starting roles. I think the Grizzlies offer him between 15-20 million and will attempt to bring in some young talent to be more competitive… especially from beyond the arc.

Whiteside – talk about a resurrection of a career. This man has easily earned himself a max contract and will get multiple offers. No one knows what will happen with the free agents this summer for sure. I think he’d take less to play with some big names on a team that’s only goal is to win it all. I can’t see him taking as much money as possible if it means playing with some superstars.

Barnes – I think you’re right about his worth, but teams go crazy with cap space and signing whatever is available after the best have made their moves. I still can’t believe a guy like this, who really hasn’t shown he can lead a team, is possibily in the running for 16+ million a year. It’s insane……

Batum – Probably in the 12-15 million range at most. 

 

– I’ll go out on a limb here, Durant and Lebron both leave their teams. Where? I don’t know, but they’ll both leave.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[d-grizzlyParticipant]

Drummond – no brainer as you put it.

Derozan – he hasn’t led a team, nor do I think he has it in him to ever do so. He’ll get the max anyway or sign for less to build to compete.

Pau – Not a max; probably won’t even get a max offer from any team. I see him going somewhere to contend for one last ring.

Horford – Has not demonstrated that he’s a first option. I think he could be a good second option if there was a superstar that led the team he was on. He’ll probably get one or two max offers and accept an offer from a team that gives him the best chance to compete for a championship while still making decent bucks.

Beal – Watch him get multiple max offers. We are in an era that overvalues pg/sg/guard play and will pay way too much. I think the wizards will let him go and move other pieces if there is a chance to sign Durant/make room for additional free agents. 

Howard – Will get max offers; however, I think he signs with a team while taking somewhat of a paycut to compete. I think he’s done with the Rockets.

Conely – I think this really depends on a couple factors. Zbo is getting pretty old. Marc is getting older. Outside of that, they only have second-stringers inserting themselves in starting roles. I think the Grizzlies offer him between 15-20 million and will attempt to bring in some young talent to be more competitive… especially from beyond the arc.

Whiteside – talk about a resurrection of a career. This man has easily earned himself a max contract and will get multiple offers. No one knows what will happen with the free agents this summer for sure. I think he’d take less to play with some big names on a team that’s only goal is to win it all. I can’t see him taking as much money as possible if it means playing with some superstars.

Barnes – I think you’re right about his worth, but teams go crazy with cap space and signing whatever is available after the best have made their moves. I still can’t believe a guy like this, who really hasn’t shown he can lead a team, is possibily in the running for 16+ million a year. It’s insane……

Batum – Probably in the 12-15 million range at most. 

 

– I’ll go out on a limb here, Durant and Lebron both leave their teams. Where? I don’t know, but they’ll both leave.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[d-grizzlyParticipant]

 I would not be shocked if LeBron or Durant ended up in LA next year if a couple things happened. If the Lakers ended up with a top two pick, Jeanie fired her brother, and if Phil came back, I could see this team making some incredible moves this summer. They have lots of cap space from what I remember reading, so this isn’t exactly nonsense I’m spewing, plus, I’m not a lakers fan. 

I would, however, be shocked if both LeBron and Durant ended up in LA next year with russell, randle, – and I think they will ended up with a top 2 pick. If this happened… seriously… watch the F-ck out.

 

 

 

[d-grizzlyParticipant]

 I would not be shocked if LeBron or Durant ended up in LA next year if a couple things happened. If the Lakers ended up with a top two pick, Jeanie fired her brother, and if Phil came back, I could see this team making some incredible moves this summer. They have lots of cap space from what I remember reading, so this isn’t exactly nonsense I’m spewing, plus, I’m not a lakers fan. 

I would, however, be shocked if both LeBron and Durant ended up in LA next year with russell, randle, – and I think they will ended up with a top 2 pick. If this happened… seriously… watch the F-ck out.

 

 

 

[phila9012Participant]

 I think they could all get the max. I think they will all get $20 million a year. Pau might take less but the others are getting $20 million a year. The salary cap is going up again in 2017 so the contracts won’t be that bad. People thought batums contract was bad the first time, but 12 or 13 million a few years ago for a guy like him is worth it, just like $20 million is worth it now. Parsons got $15 million a year and most people would rather have batum so it isn’t stretch to pay him $20 million under a higher cap. 

Derozen is an all star and can be a great 1B or second option on a championship team, so he is easily getting the max.

With Whiteside, look at a team like the bucks if they trade monroe or the celtics, both could use him. That is $20 million at least for him. He is 27 so it would take him through his prime.

 Throw barnes on a team like the Twolves where he can be the 3rd option and play to his strengths and get the ball in good spots with Rubio throwing him passes. He is easily worth $20 million to them or even the trail blazers. 

Bazemore is getting $12 to $15 million at least a year. Athletic 3 and D guys get paid.

Fetus will probably get in the $10 to $12 million a year range

Too many teams have cap space available. Plus with the cap continuing to go up, guys are going to get paid. The NBA has a ton of money and they only have to pay 15 players per team. The numbers sound ridiculis now but when the cap increases over 30% in 2 years things like this happen.

 

[phila9012Participant]

 I think they could all get the max. I think they will all get $20 million a year. Pau might take less but the others are getting $20 million a year. The salary cap is going up again in 2017 so the contracts won’t be that bad. People thought batums contract was bad the first time, but 12 or 13 million a few years ago for a guy like him is worth it, just like $20 million is worth it now. Parsons got $15 million a year and most people would rather have batum so it isn’t stretch to pay him $20 million under a higher cap. 

Derozen is an all star and can be a great 1B or second option on a championship team, so he is easily getting the max.

With Whiteside, look at a team like the bucks if they trade monroe or the celtics, both could use him. That is $20 million at least for him. He is 27 so it would take him through his prime.

 Throw barnes on a team like the Twolves where he can be the 3rd option and play to his strengths and get the ball in good spots with Rubio throwing him passes. He is easily worth $20 million to them or even the trail blazers. 

Bazemore is getting $12 to $15 million at least a year. Athletic 3 and D guys get paid.

Fetus will probably get in the $10 to $12 million a year range

Too many teams have cap space available. Plus with the cap continuing to go up, guys are going to get paid. The NBA has a ton of money and they only have to pay 15 players per team. The numbers sound ridiculis now but when the cap increases over 30% in 2 years things like this happen.

 

[frogmanParticipant]

Drummond is clearly getting the max but it’s gotta be a little painful that you give a guy the max that can’t stay in the game late and you need to bring in Aron Baynes for him because he is such a liability as a free throw shooter

[frogmanParticipant]

Drummond is clearly getting the max but it’s gotta be a little painful that you give a guy the max that can’t stay in the game late and you need to bring in Aron Baynes for him because he is such a liability as a free throw shooter

[SeattleSuperChronicsParticipant]

 Bazemore won’t get a max but he will get paid forsure

[SeattleSuperChronicsParticipant]

 Bazemore won’t get a max but he will get paid forsure

[SlickBouncePassParticipant]

 Are Batum, Conley, and horford on the sixers.  Afraid colangelo gonna sign derozan with Toronto ties, and I don’t get it…something off about derozan game. Has the look but not the game, like Rudy gay. 

[SlickBouncePassParticipant]

 Are Batum, Conley, and horford on the sixers.  Afraid colangelo gonna sign derozan with Toronto ties, and I don’t get it…something off about derozan game. Has the look but not the game, like Rudy gay. 

[circumlocution75Participant]

 I think Durant signs a 1 year deal w/ OKC…….. & then KD & Westbrook go all out for a Ring in OKC before both hit the open market…….

W/ the "Larry Bird Rule" in effect allowing teams to go Over the Cap to sign their own players……… Would OKC be able to "Max" Both Durant & Westbrook???….. Does anyone Know if that would be possible???

 

[circumlocution75Participant]

 I think Durant signs a 1 year deal w/ OKC…….. & then KD & Westbrook go all out for a Ring in OKC before both hit the open market…….

W/ the "Larry Bird Rule" in effect allowing teams to go Over the Cap to sign their own players……… Would OKC be able to "Max" Both Durant & Westbrook???….. Does anyone Know if that would be possible???

 

[HitsterParticipant]

 Max salaries for younger guys aren’t anywhere near what a veteran will get.

Horford isn’t a much stats filler but he is effective on a winning team and someone is likely to pay him big money, I wouldn’t personally pay him more than Millsap got last summer.

Harrison Barnes is an intetesting one, GSW can match but with Steph Curry due for a mega deal in 2017 then to keep them all may be hard but both Iggy and Bogut come off their current deals next summer and will be at veteran stage then so would probably resign for less. 

GSW can match any Barnes deal and then play him next season with an option to trade him around draft night 2017 if the cap is going crazy. A lot depends if Barnes signs an offer sheet from another team, a smart GM makes year 2 a player option which if GSW match makes Barnes an unrestricted FA in 2017.

Pau Gasol will go to a team where he feels he has the best chance of success, he has had his mega deals already and is effectively looking to be on a contender. Boston might be a nice fit for him or even returning to Memphis to play with his kid brother.

As regards the Westbrook and KD both on max then they would both start on over $26 million a year I think so you’d have $52-53 million on two players rising to well over $60 million in a few years time, so to keep other players around them would be hard.

 

 

 

 

 

[HitsterParticipant]

 Max salaries for younger guys aren’t anywhere near what a veteran will get.

Horford isn’t a much stats filler but he is effective on a winning team and someone is likely to pay him big money, I wouldn’t personally pay him more than Millsap got last summer.

Harrison Barnes is an intetesting one, GSW can match but with Steph Curry due for a mega deal in 2017 then to keep them all may be hard but both Iggy and Bogut come off their current deals next summer and will be at veteran stage then so would probably resign for less. 

GSW can match any Barnes deal and then play him next season with an option to trade him around draft night 2017 if the cap is going crazy. A lot depends if Barnes signs an offer sheet from another team, a smart GM makes year 2 a player option which if GSW match makes Barnes an unrestricted FA in 2017.

Pau Gasol will go to a team where he feels he has the best chance of success, he has had his mega deals already and is effectively looking to be on a contender. Boston might be a nice fit for him or even returning to Memphis to play with his kid brother.

As regards the Westbrook and KD both on max then they would both start on over $26 million a year I think so you’d have $52-53 million on two players rising to well over $60 million in a few years time, so to keep other players around them would be hard.

 

 

 

 

 

[BiggysmallsParticipant]

What is the max even this upcoming offseason? Like what is the biggest contract a guy like Barnes can get? Is it the same as a guy like Batum? Not from their own teams, I mean outside teams. I get so tired of trying to keep up with all the damn options and maxes that guys get, its annoying. 

I think Drummond, Horford, Conley, DeRozan and Whiteside are getting maxes. Only guy I think might leave his current team is Whiteside. 

Don’t see Batum getting a max, but I think he stays in Charlotte on like a 4 year 64-70 mil type deal. 

Think Barnes gets close to the max from someone, not sure if that 18-20 mil. Again, not sure what the max is. 

Think Howard probably gets a 2 year deal with an opt out from someone like Dallas or Miami. 2 year 40 mil seems realistic, and absured at the same time. 

It’s going to be a horrible offseason. So many players with opt outs, so many guys set to hit the market and get enormous money, and nobody will care because all we will talk about is LeBron (because he knows how to suck up the attention) and Durant (who for some ungodly reason feels the need to be "courted")

 

 

 

 

[BiggysmallsParticipant]

What is the max even this upcoming offseason? Like what is the biggest contract a guy like Barnes can get? Is it the same as a guy like Batum? Not from their own teams, I mean outside teams. I get so tired of trying to keep up with all the damn options and maxes that guys get, its annoying. 

I think Drummond, Horford, Conley, DeRozan and Whiteside are getting maxes. Only guy I think might leave his current team is Whiteside. 

Don’t see Batum getting a max, but I think he stays in Charlotte on like a 4 year 64-70 mil type deal. 

Think Barnes gets close to the max from someone, not sure if that 18-20 mil. Again, not sure what the max is. 

Think Howard probably gets a 2 year deal with an opt out from someone like Dallas or Miami. 2 year 40 mil seems realistic, and absured at the same time. 

It’s going to be a horrible offseason. So many players with opt outs, so many guys set to hit the market and get enormous money, and nobody will care because all we will talk about is LeBron (because he knows how to suck up the attention) and Durant (who for some ungodly reason feels the need to be "courted")

 

 

 

 

[omphalosParticipant]

 Barnes is getting the max, even if only to force Golden State to match it and hurt their cap situation.

I could see Washington, Charlotte, Portland or Sacramento throwing a max at him and he’d be a great fit in Washington at least.

If the Wizards miss out on KD then Barnes is a solid option – he’s the right age for their core of Wall and Beal, he’s got playoff experience and would thrive alongside a pass-first PG like Wall.

It just depends who they get as coach.

As far as Charlotte goes, assuming Batum walks, then Barnes comes in as the 3&D guy they need to spread the floor, maybe generate some more shooting and earn them money with those NC ties.

 

 

 

 

[omphalosParticipant]

 Barnes is getting the max, even if only to force Golden State to match it and hurt their cap situation.

I could see Washington, Charlotte, Portland or Sacramento throwing a max at him and he’d be a great fit in Washington at least.

If the Wizards miss out on KD then Barnes is a solid option – he’s the right age for their core of Wall and Beal, he’s got playoff experience and would thrive alongside a pass-first PG like Wall.

It just depends who they get as coach.

As far as Charlotte goes, assuming Batum walks, then Barnes comes in as the 3&D guy they need to spread the floor, maybe generate some more shooting and earn them money with those NC ties.

 

 

 

 

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