undrafted pressey vs drafted pgs
Phil pressey from all pgs in summer so far looks like the best pure pg that can defend and score points. He is extremely quick and has a high motor.
I understand that last years college pg per and turnover numbers were not pretty , but the year prior with a better supporting cast had better all around numbers.
So with this said, did alot of teams miss the boat by not at least drafting him witha second round pick? Whats his potential in the nba?
Got to give ainge credit picking up pressey and trading up for olynyk
I like Pressey as a 3rd guard option, but don't really see him playing a lot of minutes in the NBA because of his size. This summer he's shown a lot of poise, and can run the pick and roll with the best of them. I don't think any team will regret passing on him, but I could easily see him having a Brevin Knight sort of game/career as a pass first pg who looks to play some tough D.
bump that size stuff celtics need a true point to back up rondo. Pressey is a better passer than a good portion of these athlete type combo guards that organizations(try out) at the point guard position. I believe he can fit for the celtics. Tired of watching bradley struggle in a position he is obviously uncomfortable with.
Is pressey really small for a pg? 5'11 to 6'2 in height seems like the avg.
Paul, lawson, collison are also only about 5'11
I personally think pressey could b a starter one day , especially in the nba surrounded by talents.
I know its only summer league but when he was on and off the court it seemed like night and day in how the celts played. The passing and defense especially were impressive to watch in action
Flip has the benefit of being linked to a sub par team, so that will certainly help his opportunity to make the team and play. I've seen Pressey play a lot during his collegiate career, and I was never impressed. His shot selection was often wild and team hurting, and he was wild in his decision making. The good part of his game is his speed and ability to find the open man, especially on the break.
What I saw in Orlando surprised me, his shot selection was much more under control and although not great from NBA range, the fact that he was able to nail some NBA 3's was a good sign as well. Now, I don't think Flip is ever going to be more than a 2nd or 3rd string PG in the league, but I think he made the most of his opportunity and with good play in the pre-season, I think he stands a good chance to make Boston's roster. As far as playing time goes, I don't think he'll get a lot being behind Rondo and Bradley, but I could see him splitting time between D-League games and Boston's 3rd PG. He's got a long way to go in his road as an undrafted player trying to make a roster and get PT, but props to him for making the most of a good opportunity and playing well in Orlando.
Joe wolf didnt you get to see these guys in person? Which other under the radar pgs impressed you so far?
No, I wasn't there in Orlando, just NBA TV, but I did see Pressey play in person once in Allen Feildhouse his freshman year at Missouri.
I thought Dwight Buycks played really well and showcased his ability to distribute or score, depending on what his team needed. I thought Toronto was smart to sign him. He may have a tough time sticking, like Malik Wayns last year, but I think he has NBA level talent and was glad the Raptors give him an opportunity.
I liked Ray McCallum in his debut, he did a good job running the 1st unit and showed some really nice/creative moves crossing over and finishing in the open court. His jumper isn't much, but I think it looks better than it did the last time I saw him play in college. I think he can do enough to make the Kings' roster and if his jumper gets better, I think he could be a pretty solid point guard. He's not that under the radar as a 2nd round pick, but in all reality about half of all 2nd round picks end up over seas or in the D-League. I think Ray is going to be a rookie who'll get some PT.
I like mcallum also. Shades of westbrook the way he can attack and finish around the basket. Also good pg in general. But his quickness is not on all the time and i wonder how his nba defense will be.
Too bad larkin and jackson are injured bc i was looking forward to see what they can do, esp since ppl say their height is of a concern
Pierre played last night. Unfortunately, I didn't get to watch the game, but his box score line wasn't impressive. 1-7 4 points 3 assists 3 TO's. Obviously box scores don't tell the whole story, he may have had some good flashes, but he is playing for the Pelicans, he and Jeff Withey just sat out the first game because of trade finalities.
Chad Ford like many others in NBA and NCAA circles liked Pressey's ability to facilitate by creating that special chemical reaction of making his team-mates look good. His playmaking purely against the rest of the pg '13 class is at least top three IMO. The issue with him is he'd start jacking up silly shots and start playing "hero ball" it was almost like tunnel vision which really hurt Missouri at times.
As Joewolf mentioned, he's a bit more controlled now and I do like him as a Rondo's back-up simply because the Celtics need more playmaking guards.
Him as a passer. In college he shot too much 4 my liking. He has made me a believer. Should be a great back up if he does not start jacking.