[The Scare Crow RisesParticipant]

 Who would you pick if you had to choose, exclude all Contracts, who’s a better player Today

<p>Who would you pick if you had to choose, exclude trivial things like Contract size/lenght, who’s a better player Today if you were building a Championship Team

 

<p>James Harden Vs. Joe Johnson

 

<p>Evan Turner Vs. Tyreke Evans

 

<p>Demar Derezon Vs. Kawhi Leonard

 

<p>Paul George Vs Wilson Chandler

 

<p>Andre Iguadola Vs. Danny Granger

 

<p>Rudy Gay Vs. Luol Deng

 

<p>Jrue Holiday Vs. Stephan Curry

 

<p>John Wall Vs. Kyrie Irving

 

<p>Kemba Walker Vs Brandon Knight

 

<p>Lou Williams Vs OJ Mayo

 

<p>JR Smith Vs Nick Young

 

<p>Lavoy Allen(50th pick in the 2011 Draft) Vs Jonas Valencunas(5th pick in the 2011 Draft)

 

<p>Derrick Rose Vs. Russell Westbrook

 

<p>Brandon Jennings Vs. Ty Lawson

 

<p>Thad Young Vs. Danilo Gallinari

 

<p>Eric Gordon Vs. Monta Ellis

 

<p>Chris Paul Vs. Deron Williams

 

<p>Tony Parker Vs. Rajon Rondo

 

<p>Kevin Garnett Vs. Tim Duncan

 

<p>Dwight Howard Vs. Andrew Bynum

 

<p>Pau Gasol and Marc Gasol Vs. Dirk Nowitski and Chris Kaman

 

<p>Micheal Beasley Vs. Derrick Williams

 

<p>Vince Carter Vs. Tracy Mcgrady(LOL)

 

<p>Ricky Rubio Vs. Jeremy Lin

 

<p>Kevin Love Vs. Blake Griffin

 

<p>Lamarcus Aldrige Vs. Chris Bosh

 

<p>Healthy Greg Oden Vs. Focused Roy Hibbert

 

<p>Brook Lopez Vs. Robin Lopez

 

<p>Derrick Favors Vs. Enes Kanter

 

<p>Demarcus Cousins Vs. Greg Monroe

 

<p>Javal Mcgee Vs. DeAndre Jordan

 

<p>Elton Brand Vs. Kenyon Martin

 

<p>Paul Millsap Vs David West

 

<p>Al Horford Vs Al Jefferson

 

<p>Josh Smith Vs. Carmelo Anthony

 

<p>Prime Amare Vs Prime Shawn Kemp

 

<p>Kobe Vs Wade

 

<p>Lebron Vs Durant

 

<p>Shaq Vs Hakeem (Today)

 

<p>Dr J Vs Larry Bird (Today)

 

<p>Brian Scalibrini Vs Matt Bonner

[aamir543Participant]

I usually like to give an explanation for my choices, so I’ll do them little by little, like the idea though.

James Harden vs Joe Johnson- Really, really tough one, by the end of the day I might go with Harden, he’s improving by the second, he’s be a 24 ppg scorer on his own team no doubt, he can drive and finish, shoot the jumper, create his own shot, and to an extent he is sort of a play maker, but for now I’ll go with Johnson, too skilled in the half court, he’s so long, very good one-on-one player, don’t be surprised if he stays at 18 ppg for the next 4 years, his game looks like it should age well, but it might not once he loses lift on that jumper.

Evan Turner Tyreke Evans- Another interesting one, I’ll go with Tyreke as the better player because he’s a big guy that can get to the rim and score, suspect jumper but he’s a good scorer, this kid can ball, but as for who I’d rather have on my team I’d have to go with Turner, he’s apoint foward, you know what position he plays, handles the ball, nice one-on-one moves, not ready to be a go-to guy yet, but he’ll get there, he doesn’t ball hog as much as Evans, but he does need the ball in his hands to be successfull though.

DeMar DeRozan vs Kawahi Leanord- DeRozan is better, better scorer, but that’s about it, I’d much rather have Kawahi on my team, he has potential as a three point shooter, long arms, huge hands, great on-ball defender, love the energy he brings to a team.

Paul George vs Wilson Chandler- Easy one, Wilson Chandler is a better scorer, and rebounder, but George does have a bright future, but Chandler is as complete an offensive guy a 15 ppg scorer can be, don’t let his short stint this season in Denver fool you, he’ll be back to the Chandler we saw in 2010-2011.

 

[ProudGrandpaParticipant]

<p>James Harden Vs. Joe Johnson

<p>Evan Turner Vs. Tyreke Evans

<p>Demar Derezon Vs. Kawhi Leonard

<p>Paul George Vs Wilson Chandler

<p>Andre Iguadola Vs. Danny Granger-and I’m a Pacers fan

<p>Rudy Gay Vs. Luol Deng-tough one

<p>Jrue Holiday Vs. Stephan Curry

<p>John Wall Vs. Kyrie Irving

<p>Kemba Walker Vs Brandon Knight

<p>Lou Williams Vs OJ Mayo

<p>JR Smith Vs Nick Young

<p>Lavoy Allen(50th pick in the 2011 Draft) Vs Jonas Valencunas(5th pick in the 2011 Draft)-?

<p>Derrick Rose Vs. Russell Westbrook- Well, considering Rose has a torn ACL, Westbrook is better "RIGHT NOW"

<p>Brandon Jennings Vs. Ty Lawson

<p>Thad Young Vs. Danilo Gallinari

<p>Eric Gordon Vs. Monta Ellis

<p>Chris Paul Vs. Deron Williams

<p>Tony Parker Vs. Rajon Rondo

<p>Kevin Garnett Vs. Tim Duncan

<p>Dwight Howard Vs. Andrew Bynum

<p>Pau Gasol and Marc Gasol Vs. Dirk Nowitski and Chris Kaman-I like this

<p>Micheal Beasley Vs. Derrick Williams

<p>Vince Carter Vs. Tracy Mcgrady(LOL)

<p>Ricky Rubio Vs. Jeremy Lin

<p>Kevin Love Vs. Blake Griffin

<p>Lamarcus Aldrige Vs. Chris Bosh

<p>Healthy Greg Oden Vs. Focused Roy Hibbert-this is unfair to Roy

<p>Brook Lopez Vs. Robin Lopez

<p>Derrick Favors Vs. Enes Kanter

<p>Demarcus Cousins Vs. Greg Monroe

<p>Javal Mcgee Vs. DeAndre Jordan

<p>Elton Brand Vs. Kenyon Martin

<p>Paul Millsap Vs David West

<p>Al Horford Vs Al Jefferson

<p>Josh Smith Vs. Carmelo Anthony

<p>Prime Amare Vs Prime Shawn Kemp

<p>Kobe Vs Wade

<p>Lebron Vs Durant

<p>Shaq Vs Hakeem (Today)

<p>Dr J Vs Larry Bird (Today)

<p>Brian Scalibrini Vs Matt Bonner

[ProudGrandpaParticipant]

<p>James Harden Vs. Joe Johnson

<p>Evan Turner Vs. Tyreke Evans

<p>Demar Derezon Vs. Kawhi Leonard

<p>Paul George Vs Wilson Chandler

<p>Andre Iguadola Vs. Danny Granger-and I’m a Pacers fan

<p>Rudy Gay Vs. Luol Deng-tough one

<p>Jrue Holiday Vs. Stephan Curry

<p>John Wall Vs. Kyrie Irving

<p>Kemba Walker Vs Brandon Knight

<p>Lou Williams Vs OJ Mayo

<p>JR Smith Vs Nick Young

<p>Lavoy Allen(50th pick in the 2011 Draft) Vs Jonas Valencunas(5th pick in the 2011 Draft)-?

<p>Derrick Rose Vs. Russell Westbrook- Well, considering Rose has a torn ACL, Westbrook is better "RIGHT NOW"

<p>Brandon Jennings Vs. Ty Lawson

<p>Thad Young Vs. Danilo Gallinari

<p>Eric Gordon Vs. Monta Ellis

<p>Chris Paul Vs. Deron Williams

<p>Tony Parker Vs. Rajon Rondo

<p>Kevin Garnett Vs. Tim Duncan

<p>Dwight Howard Vs. Andrew Bynum

<p>Pau Gasol and Marc Gasol Vs. Dirk Nowitski and Chris Kaman-I like this

<p>Micheal Beasley Vs. Derrick Williams

<p>Vince Carter Vs. Tracy Mcgrady(LOL)

<p>Ricky Rubio Vs. Jeremy Lin

<p>Kevin Love Vs. Blake Griffin

<p>Lamarcus Aldrige Vs. Chris Bosh

<p>Healthy Greg Oden Vs. Focused Roy Hibbert-this is unfair to Roy

<p>Brook Lopez Vs. Robin Lopez

<p>Derrick Favors Vs. Enes Kanter

<p>Demarcus Cousins Vs. Greg Monroe

<p>Javal Mcgee Vs. DeAndre Jordan

<p>Elton Brand Vs. Kenyon Martin

<p>Paul Millsap Vs David West

<p>Al Horford Vs Al Jefferson

<p>Josh Smith Vs. Carmelo Anthony

<p>Prime Amare Vs Prime Shawn Kemp

<p>Kobe Vs Wade

<p>Lebron Vs Durant

<p>Shaq Vs Hakeem (Today)

<p>Dr J Vs Larry Bird (Today)

<p>Brian Scalibrini Vs Matt Bonner

[UsernameParticipant]

<p>James Harden Vs. Joe Johnson

<p>Evan Turner Vs. Tyreke Evans

<p>Demar Derezon Vs. Kawhi Leonard

<p>Paul George Vs Wilson Chandler

<p>Andre Iguadola Vs. Danny Granger

<p>Rudy Gay Vs. Luol Deng

<p>Jrue Holiday Vs. Stephan Curry

<p>John Wall Vs. Kyrie Irving

<p>Kemba Walker Vs Brandon Knight

<p>Lou Williams Vs OJ Mayo

<p>JR Smith Vs Nick Young

<p>Lavoy Allen(50th pick in the 2011 Draft) Vs Jonas Valencunas(5th pick in the 2011 Draft)

<p>Derrick Rose Vs. Russell Westbrook ( If Rose’s healthy there’s NO WAY I’d take RW over him )

<p>Brandon Jennings Vs. Ty Lawson

<p>Thad Young Vs. Danilo Gallinari

<p>Eric Gordon Vs. Monta Ellis

<p>Chris Paul Vs. Deron Williams

<p>Tony Parker Vs. Rajon Rondo

<p>Kevin Garnett Vs. Tim Duncan

<p>Dwight Howard Vs. Andrew Bynum

<p>Pau Gasol and Marc Gasol Vs. Dirk Nowitski and Chris Kaman

<p>Micheal Beasley Vs. Derrick Williams

<p>Vince Carter Vs. Tracy Mcgrady(LOL)

<p>Ricky Rubio Vs. Jeremy Lin

<p>Kevin Love Vs. Blake Griffin

<p>Lamarcus Aldrige Vs. Chris Bosh

<p>Healthy Greg Oden Vs. Focused Roy Hibbert

<p>Brook Lopez Vs. Robin Lopez

<p>Derrick Favors Vs. Enes Kanter

<p>Demarcus Cousins Vs. Greg Monroe

<p>Javal Mcgee Vs. DeAndre Jordan

<p>Elton Brand Vs. Kenyon Martin

<p>Paul Millsap Vs David West

<p>Al Horford Vs Al Jefferson

<p>Josh Smith Vs. Carmelo Anthony

<p>Prime Amare Vs Prime Shawn Kemp

<p>Kobe Vs Wade

<p>Lebron Vs Durant

<p>Shaq Vs Hakeem (Today)

<p>Dr J Vs Larry Bird (Today)

<p>Brian Scalibrini Vs Matt Bonner

[kdtriv01Participant]

<p>James Harden Vs. Joe Johnson

<p>Evan Turner Vs. Tyreke Evans

<p>Demar Derezon Vs. Kawhi Leonard

<p>Paul George Vs Wilson Chandler

<p>Andre Iguadola Vs. Danny Granger

<p>Rudy Gay Vs. Luol Deng

<p>Jrue Holiday Vs. Stephan Curry

<p>John Wall Vs. Kyrie Irving—Easiest pick of them all

<p>Kemba Walker Vs Brandon Knight

<p>Lou Williams Vs OJ Mayo

<p>JR Smith Vs Nick Young

<p>Lavoy Allen(50th pick in the 2011 Draft) Vs Jonas Valencunas(5th pick in the 2011 Draft)

<p>Derrick Rose Vs. Russell Westbrook—if he’s healthy

<p>Brandon Jennings Vs. Ty Lawson

<p>Thad Young Vs. Danilo Gallinari

<p>Eric Gordon Vs. Monta Ellis

<p>Chris Paul Vs. Deron Williams–apparant attitude issues with Deron

<p>Tony Parker Vs. Rajon Rondo

<p>Kevin Garnett Vs. Tim Duncan

<p>Dwight Howard Vs. Andrew Bynum

<p>Pau Gasol and Marc Gasol Vs. Dirk Nowitski and Chris Kaman

<p>Micheal Beasley Vs. Derrick Williams

<p>Vince Carter Vs. Tracy Mcgrady(LOL)–you laugh but I can’t stand VC’s game

<p>Ricky Rubio Vs. Jeremy Lin

<p>Kevin Love Vs. Blake Griffin

<p>Lamarcus Aldrige Vs. Chris Bosh

<p>Healthy Greg Oden Vs. Focused Roy Hibbert- Second easiest one

<p>Brook Lopez Vs. Robin Lopez

<p>Derrick Favors Vs. Enes Kanter

<p>Demarcus Cousins Vs. Greg Monroe

<p>Javal Mcgee Vs. DeAndre Jordan

<p>Elton Brand Vs. Kenyon Martin

<p>Paul Millsap Vs David West

<p>Al Horford Vs Al Jefferson

<p>Josh Smith Vs. Carmelo Anthony

<p>Prime Amare Vs Prime Shawn Kemp

<p>Kobe Vs Wade

<p>Lebron Vs Durant

<p>Shaq Vs Hakeem (Today)

<p>Dr J Vs Larry Bird (Today)

<p>Brian Scalibrini Vs Matt Bonner

[The Scare Crow RisesParticipant]

 <p>James Harden Vs. Joe Johnson – I like JJ’s game but he’s been on the decline lately, Harden is coming on strong and could be the X Factor in the Thunder’s pursuit of a Championship, I also think Harden fits in better with most teams and could be an effective 1st option, Joe’s not the athelte or defender Harden is right now, Harden’s outside shot and play making ability are probally on par with Johnson’s as well, Joe is a slightly better rebounder and post up player but that’s where I think Joe’s advantages end, Harden’s age and growing confidence are also big tipping points 

<p>Evan Turner Vs. Tyreke Evans – Being a Philadelphia guy it’s hard to pick between these two, one is a dynamic slasher, the other a awesome overall player, it boils down to Evan Turner’s intangibles, Turner was a high pick/high expectations guy much like Evans, Tyreke set the NBA on fire on a terrible team and it looked as if this debate was over before it started, Turner struggled to crack the starting lineup in his rookie season and has only now begun to show # 2 pick production, he’s a jump shot away from being the true Leader of a Playoff Team, he’s already the best rebounding guard in league next to Wade and clearly has the fire it takes to be a Star, he’s more than held his own against The Bulls and Celtics in the NBA playoffs, IMO he’s light years ahead of where Evan’s is right now mentally 



<p>Demar Derezon Vs. Kawhi Leonard – Although Kawhi has perfectly found his role very early I do believe Demar will his as well, I envision Derezon playing the same role Leonard does now for a Team like the Clippers in a few years, I have always felt his game would take a longer time to develop into a really good Sg/Sf, Leonard does all the things you need from a role player and he’s got the potential to be a full time starting Sg/Sf as well, But Derezon’s elite atheltic ability gives him a slight edge in this debate 

 

<p>Paul George Vs Wilson Chandler – I was almost tricked into picking Paul George simply off potential, I looked at the original question of who was ready to help most right now, I think Wilson is a dynamic player right now, he can be moved around in your lineup, he could play some Sg when you go big and Pf when you play small ball, he’s an effective scorer and defender right now, don’t get me wrong I think George has the potential and ability right now to do the same thing and do it better, but as of today Wilson’s a stronger and smarter player, and he’s versatile enough to play multiple positions

<p>Andre Iguadola Vs. Danny Granger – This was another tough choice for me, I put all Philly biasness to the side and made my decision based off Iguadola’s defense and offensive versatility, I do believe that Granger is Iggy’s superior on pure offensive scoring alone, Danny’s always been a more fluid shooter and has become a Good 1st option/Great 2nd option guy, but he does not play defense at the level Iggy can, he does not handle the ball better or set up teammates as effectively as Andre, I think Iguadola’s matured into that Scottie Pippen lite player that he’s always been, Granger seemed to back away from becoming a more veratile player, he always hated playing Pf and could never effectively play Shooting Guard, Iggy embraced being Philly’s # 1 scoring option as much as he’s embraced being the 4th or 5th option on offense, I think my mind was made up when I got out of bed LOL 



<p>Rudy Gay Vs. Luol Deng – Rudy Gay is a great 1 on 1 scorer in This league, he’d be my guy if I were in need of a scorer, right now I don’t think Rudy has the mental make up to be a lock down defender every game, sure he has the potential to be one of the very best defenders in the NBA but he’s just not, right now Deng can be viewed as one of the top defensive Sf’s in the entire NBA/World, he’s also not a bad offensive player by any means,he’s got a awkard looking jump shot IMO but it’s super effective from mid range, he knows his spot on the floor and plays to his and his teams strenghts, Rudy can win you games no doubt about it but he’s also shot Memphis out of a great deal of them as well, right now I think Luol Deng is the better overall player



<p>Jrue Holiday Vs. Stephan Curry – This was actually the easiest pick so far, Holiday plays elite perimeter defense at the toughest position to guard in The New Era of The NBA, he’s just a effective running an NBA offense or should I say a winning brand of NBA offense, he does not play at the same tempo as Curry and does not jack up as many shots as Steph either thus his stats will never match Curry’s decieving numbers in Golden State, Holiday is a very good outside shooter and can drive the lane just as effectively as Curry, in fact Holiday is a better post up player as well, all Curry may have over Holiday is his outside shot, which is what Steph has been working on since he was swimming in Dell’s ball sack, people are also going to be swayed by Curry’s SPG stats which is not a tribute to his defense but actaully a flaw, he gambles to get his steals, he’s not a man to man defender, Holiday has to make life hell for the best players in The NBA every night and he does it very well, you are never going to stop guys like CP3/Rose or Westbrook but you can make them work harder for their Offensive stats, anybody can see Jrue is ahead of Curry as far as Team Success is concerned and he’s not too far behind him as far as personal success goes, Holiday is leading a Sixers team while they make a potentially historic playoff run, where is Curry??? Hopefully he’s resting that gimpy ankle and learning a thing or two from guys like Holiday and Rondo…



<p>John Wall Vs. Kyrie Irving – Before people brow beat me with Wall’s combine numbers may I say that I’m a Wall supporter and one of his most harsh critics, he really impressed me the last few weeks of the season by not packing it in and awaiting help in The Lottery(Yeah I’m Looking at you Steph) BUT he’s still not where he should be as a PG, in fact I’ve said this before but I think he’ll end playing some Sg in his career, right now Kyrie is a better shooter, more effective slasher/play maker and has a CP3 feel to his game, no he’s not the highlight reel athlete Wall is and will be for a long time but he’s a Winner, a game changer for sure, when the Cavs get their business in order Kid Kyrie will be leading them into the playoffs, he’s one of the very few I can honestly say I was wrong about In a way, I thought Kyrie Irving would be good but not great, I thought he’s break down at some and look like a bad pick by Cleveland early on, I was right in that he did miss time this year to injuries BUT boy was I wrong about him being just good, he was great at times in his 1st year, he’s got a long way to go as does John Wall but I’m picking him going forward 



<p>Kemba Walker Vs Brandon Knight – People thought Kemba was going to be the leader and Brandon was going to be the scorer, I think the opposite happen in their rookie seasons, Kemba was forced to scorer the ball more in Charlote and helped the Bobcats to the worst record of all time Statisticlly, while Brandon Knight showed good point gurad skills and hepled the Pistons out of a Top 5 Pick to the fans disapproval, Knight was clearly the better player this year and has more room to grow then Walker, Kemba may be a better pure scorer tahn BK but I think Knight will effectively run an NBA offense and score points in bunches, Knights defensive potential sets them apart too



<p>Lou Williams Vs OJ Mayo – Yes, I’ve read the Thread "Why OJ Mayo Sucks" and I agree he’s been a huge dissapointment as a # 3 pick in a good draft, and I as a Philly guy have seen every thing Lou Williams has to offer as a 6th man of the Year finalist, But here’s where I make my pick, OJ is a far better man to man defender than Lou Williams, he’s bigger and stronger than Lou Williams is and does not gamble and spy the passing lane(a nasty habit Lou pick up from Iverson) Also I believe when Mayo becomes a Fee Agent and finds a Team like Cleveland he’ll thrive much like Lou Williams has in Philadelphia, The Sixers have given Lou far more freedom than Mayo has had over the last few years, in fact Mayo’s first few seasons are better than Lou’s best seasons as a Sixer, Mayo will be a fine starting Sg or elite 6th man when he’s free of Memphis’s Burmuda Triangle offense of Gay, Gasol and Zac Randolph



<p>JR Smith Vs Nick Young – Knucklehead who can light it up Vs Gunner who can shoot you in and out of the game, both JR and Nick have huge offensive potential, they can both get red hot from outside and finish at the rim in highlight reel fashion, I think JR’s reputation as a trouble maker are always going to be there, I never got the sense that Nick Young was a trouble maker or a guy that couldn’t be Coached into becoming a very effective player, I don’t know if Del Negro is the coach that can bring it out of him but Chris Paul is certainly the right Point Guard for him to leard from 



<p>Lavoy Allen(50th pick in the 2011 Draft) Vs Jonas Valencunas(5th pick in the 2011 Draft) – This amy not seem fair to Jonas because he’s not in The NBA right now, but this could be another reminder to GM’s that you don’t reach for unproven players like Jonas or Bismack Biyombo in the top 10, I wanted to make this Lavoy Vs Bismack but I felt the 5th pick Vs The 50th pick made more of a statement, right now Lavoy Allen is a huge contributer on a playoff team, he’s had big games in these palyoffs against the frontlines of The Bulls and Celtics, Bismack never showed me any signs of being an efficient player and Jonas will have a lot to prove in Toronto, the Raps fans and GM will place a lot on his shoulders because they passed on Brandon Knight to pick this guy…If Greg Stiemsa has a better pro carrer than Jonas that will be so bad for a franchise that can not afford to be anything but amazing to make it back to the playoffs

[The Scare Crow RisesParticipant]

<p>Derrick Rose Vs. Russell Westbrook – And The Debate Begins, Rose Vs. Westbrook is one of the great topics on this forum, it’s sparked heated threads and I must admit I was in the Derrick Rose camp up until a few weeks ago, sadly when he tore his ACL it made me look at him as a Mortal Human Being again, Rose is a more complete offensive player right now and he does play the Point Guard position better than Russell( I think both will play some Sg in their Carrers) BUT I think Westbrook is a superior defender and athletic Freak of Nature, he’s also developing a good outside shot and can get to the rim at will, you could go either way with this pick but I’m going to have to give it to Westbrook because of defense and longevity as a Elite Player, Westbrook also has a shot at winning a Championship this year, if he gets to a Ring before Rose it will give him more bragging rights indeed 

<p>Brandon Jennings Vs. Ty Lawson – Lawson is a pure point guard that is cat quick and tough as nails for a 5’11 player, Jennings is the better one on one scorer and can get hot and drop 40 points on a Contender, the battle lies in consistancy, Lawson has done his job at a more consistant basis than Jennings, Brandon has helped a team battle it’s way into the playoff’s almost single handedly, Lawson has done his job well and found success because he’s got good teammates and a better coach, Jennings looks like the better player offensively speaking but he doesn’t have the toughness and leadership that Lawson has, I still think Jennings could be a All Star Level Pg in the Tony Parker/Nick Van Exel mold but Ty Lawson looks like a Winner



<p>Thad Young Vs. Danilo Gallinari – Gallo shoots the ball better than Thad and probally has a slightly better handle and can pass better due to being an Euro Syle Player, Thad is a better defender, rebounder and low post scorer, he runs the break like a deer and finishes very strong at the rim, he’s also not a guy that will shoot you out of a game by relying on his outside jump shot, everything will come from close range and he’ll get to the line and hit an occasional mid range shot, Danilo can break out and have big games But he’s not the guy I’d want taking a bunch of shots as a # 1 or even # 2 option, he’s better suited off the bench where he’s never really thrived, Thad Young can start for your team but he’ll play huge off the bench too as a mismatch nightmare, Thad’s athletic ability to defend/rebound and run the break put him over Gallinari’s ability to hit the 3 and play some Point Forward



<p>Eric Gordon Vs. Monta Ellis – First Off, I’m a big E.Gor fan and Monta’s game isn’t my favorite brand of basketball so it pains me to say this, He’s not a better player than Ellis for these simple reasons, he cant stay on the damm court for 82 games plus, I wish he could but I doubt think he can right now, maybe he will turn it around and put all the nagging injuries behind him but he’s never played the entire season let alone lead any of teams to anything positive, The Clippers and Hornets have been Lottery Bound teams with him Starting at Sg and he’s not durable enough to bank on him being there for the long hual, Ellis has had his nagging Injuries as well so don’t be fooled by his production either, I think Ellis has for the most stayed on the court for a majority of his career and has produced big scoring and Steals numbers, again steals don’t mean he plays good defense but he plays acceptable defense given he’s a 6’3 scorer, If he was starting at Pg and playing alonside a Taller Sg that defends and can handle the ball has well he’d be perfectly sized for his skillset



<p>Chris Paul Vs. Deron Williams – This one is almost laughable Now, I was once a Deron Williams supporter in this arguement, I argued the fact that CP3 was injury riddled and Deron’s size and winning attitude had me at hello, BUT ever since Deron was cast out of the garden of Eden hmmm I mean Utah he as not looked like a Winner at All, In fact he’s looked like a Loser, a big market ring stealing loser, While on the other hand Chris Paul has turned the laughing stock of the NBA into "Lob City", Must See Basketball, Highlight Reel after Highlight Reel…Now having Blake Griffin and De’Andre Jordan helps a lot, those 2 can fly, but what really helps is veterans like Billups, K Mart, Caron Butler,Mo Williams, Reggie Evans, Randy Foye…young guards like Eric Bledsoe and Nick Young better be soaking in all that knowledge or they’ll be failures in My Eyes, in all fairness Deron didn’t publicly ask to be traded to a Larger Market, but he effectively pushed a Hall Of Fame coach out of the NBA and Karma is a Bitch isn’t it, The Nets have become the Clippers over the course of a year and a half, Their GM/Owner forced 2 bad trades in which they gave up 2 high Picks for Deron Williams(Favors and Kanter) they also traded away a high pick for Gerald Wallace, a move that will forever be called a " Classic Billy King Moment"



<p>Tony Parker Vs. Rajon Rondo – Mr Triple Double vs. "The Most Underrated PG in The World"…I have hated and respected Tony Parker’s offensive ability for years, this year he was a Top 5 MVP finalist In My Opinion (James,Paul,Durant,Kobe,Parker) BUT he was being chased by Rondo down the stretch as 2nd best PG in The NBA, The Spurs success trumps that of the Celtics this year and Parker was viewed to have had the better overall success, but if you had to choose one or the other other you want the guy that can give your team 15 assist and 10 boards over the span of an entire series, Rondo has been slept on just as much as Parker has been over the years, both of these guys deserve their respect as the rightful 2nd and 3rd best Pg’s after Paul, Westbrook and Rose  



<p>Kevin Garnett Vs. Tim Duncan – This is a hard choice because I’m the biggest Timberwolves era KG fan there is, and I grow up hating Duncan but can full circle and began to love Duncan and hate KG in Boston after he and the Big 3 won the Franchise a 100th NBA Championsip, everything I loved about KG in Minnesota began to fuel my hatred of him in Boston, he was always a loud mouth/hard ass but I accepted that of him in Sota, he had to be that guy to get respected in Minnesota, but in Boston wearing the enemies colors, he felt like a total douche bag, he was clear who was the good guy and who was the bad guy, The whole time I was rooting for the Villain was I was a kid cheering on KG and The Wolves, I even felt happy for Garnett after he won his Championship, he can finally rest easy knowing he got 1, Duncan will go down as the Best Pf of their Era, both age and Time has caught up to Tim even though he’s still a top Pf/C and his team is in position to win 1 more before he ride off into the San Antonio Sunset, but if I had to pick one of these Hall of Fame Power Fowards to go to war with right now, I’d begrudgingly have to choose the Villain 



<p>Dwight Howard Vs. Andrew Bynum – This is A Heayweight Bout for the Crown of Best Center, on the surface I’d think that many would Howard as the clear cut favorite, he’s got the Defensive MVP awards and multiple All Star Appearences to add to his Bio, he’s also been to the NBA Finals and lost to Bynum’s Lakers, yes Andrew was likely hurt at in that series, I don’t believe he’s been full strenght until NOW, I know many will feel like this is premature with Howard laided up with a back injury, but Bynum is Bigger, stronger, a better low post scorer, a meaner pressence in the paint and a 2 time NBA Champion, The Lakers won those Championships while Bynum was an Injury Prone Center in a League full of Injury Prone Centers, now he’s the undisputed 2nd best Center next to Howard and arguablly Dwight’s superior, I think Howard’s kryptonit is his desire to be the good guy, he’s imasculated by his desire to be loved, weither it’s by Main St. or Madison Ave…He had the chance to bolt, be the bad guy and take the short cut to an NBA Championship(See Lebron James) and what held him back was the need to be Loved by the fans of The Magic, as if they’ll ever love him for what he’s done in Orlando if he leaves Orlando, which is what he’ll need to do if he wants to win a ring this decade(see Lebron James)



<p>Pau Gasol and Marc Gasol Vs. Dirk Nowitski and Chris Kaman – Is This a matchup we ever get to see in The NBA?? Although I think Dirk would absolutely kill Pau on offense, I think the Gasol’s would play off each other much better, I would love to see any of these pairings happen in the NBA, Pau could rejoin the Grizzlies as a Free Agent and Kaman can easily take a MLE to join the Mavericks, I would love to see the Brother’s pumping each other up when the other isn’t playing up to their ability, Marc would dominate Chris if he was being bullied by Pau in practice all week 



<p>Micheal Beasley Vs. Derrick Williams – I have long been a Micheal Beasley supporter and have taken a lot of flack for it, I believe he will find great success in The NBA when he becomes a free agent, he’ll have to work on things like his shot selection and defensive intensity plus rebounding, but I have never heard a word about him being uncoachable or a unwilling to play defense and rebound from Rick Adelman or Frank Martin @ Kansas State, I have also grown very fond of Derrick Williams’ ability as a Sf/Pf, both of these guys are going to play Pf when they get a few years older, but as of now Beasley is the better offensive player, he’s hit game winners and has a better feel for the game, Derrick was just a rookie and he’ll get a better chance to show off his entire skillset when Beasley and/or Anthony Randolph and Wes Johnson are out of Town…



<p>Vince Carter Vs. Tracy Mcgrady(LOL) I never would have thought Vince would have held up better than the Tracy, McGrady seemed to develop his perimeter skills earlier than Vince who I thought was mostly Freakish Athletism until he got to New Jersey, it may have been the other way as my memory is a bit foggy, I’d love to see both of these guys make it to Phoenix to see if that Medical Staff could keep them around for a few more years…



<p>Ricky Rubio Vs. Jeremy Lin – As far has Hype goes this Is Rocky Vs Appollo, Ricky had the following of a rockstar at the age of 16, Jeremy’s rise to popularity came overnight, This is Over Night Sensation Vs. The Unknown Commodity, both of these guys exploded on the Scene as Bright Shiny Stars in The NBA Universe, and like all bright and Shiny stars they and the hype surrounding them died out sadly, what they did was restore hope if only for a few weeks in a lockout shortened marathon, will they return to their Glory Days?? Will they go back to the pre ACL tear Olympic days, or the 20 point/10 assist while winning in the Garden days??? 

[CynthiaParticipant]

James Harden Vs. Joe Johnson – They’re in reality fairly similar players, but Harden gets the nod due to the youth.

Evan Turner Vs. Tyreke Evans – This is tough, but I just see something great in Turner.



Demar Derezon Vs. Kawhi Leonard – I’d rather build around Kawhi’s Defense.



Paul George Vs Wilson Chandler – I think Chandler is a more rounded & complete player, but George still has plenty of room to improve.



Andre Iguadola Vs. Danny Granger – This is tough, but Iggy gets the nod due to the defense.



Rudy Gay Vs. Luol Deng – Another tough one, I think I take the more experienced vet in this situation.



Jrue Holiday Vs. Stephan Curry – While Curry isn’t much of a legit PG, he can really fill it up.



John Wall Vs. Kyrie Irving – Though both are pretty amazing, I feel Wall is slightly the better true PG.



Kemba Walker Vs Brandon Knight – Very tough, could really be a coin toss, just have a feeling Knight will be the better of the two in a few years.



Lou Williams Vs OJ Mayo – If put in the right situation I think Mayo is the better player.



JR Smith Vs Nick Young – Young takes this easy, sometimes I feel JR hurts more than helps his teams.



Lavoy Allen Vs Jonas Valencunas – While LaVoy has exceeded my expectations, I believe Jonas is going to be amazing.



Derrick Rose Vs. Russell Westbrook – Sorry Rose, but you’re kind of injury prone. 



Brandon Jennings Vs. Ty Lawson – Ty is simply amazing.



Thad Young Vs. Danilo Gallinari – I think Danilo is the better shooter, a better passer as well. Thad is more of a stretch 4.



Eric Gordon Vs. Monta Ellis – Wow this one is tough, got to hand it to the more experienced of the two though.



Chris Paul Vs. Deron Williams – I used to would say Paul, but lately his antics have annoyed me, I take Deron.



Tony Parker Vs. Rajon Rondo – This really depends if you prefer offense or defense, personally I like defensive teams so I’m taking Rondo.



Kevin Garnett Vs. Tim Duncan – Love KG, but Duncan is elite in about every facet of the game, I feel KG has slipped more than Duncan has.



Dwight Howard Vs. Andrew Bynum – Even though I typically prefer defense I choose Bynum here. While he’s not as good of a defender as Howard he’s not too far off, and he’s much better offensively, more of a complete player.



Pau Gasol and Marc Gasol Vs. Dirk Nowitski and Chris Kaman – Gasol brothers have won the Gold together, Germany hasn’t came close.



Micheal Beasley Vs. Derrick Williams – Honestly I’m not overly a fan of either(not into stretch 4’s), but I’ll take Beastly.



Vince Carter Vs. Tracy Mcgrady – If this was pre-injuries I’d take McGrady, but as-is today deffinitely Carter.



Ricky Rubio Vs. Jeremy Lin – While Lin showed some nice flashes and had his fame rise significantly with "linsanity" I still feel Rubio is a much better PG hands down.



Kevin Love Vs. Blake Griffin – Tough. But Love is a more complete player, a bulky big that can knock down 3’s and compete for #1 RPG every year.



Lamarcus Aldrige Vs. Chris Bosh – I always thought Lamarcus was very underrated, though these guys are pretty similar I give the nod to Lamarcus.



Healthy Greg Oden Vs. Focused Roy Hibbert – Don’t get me wrong I’m happy with Hibberts progress, but a healthy Oden I think would be a top 3 Center in the league. But unfortunately we will never know that for sure.



Brook Lopez Vs. Robin Lopez – Call me crazy, but I’ll take Robins defense & hustle over Brooks inconsistancy any day.



Derrick Favors Vs. Enes Kanter – Right now Favors for sure, but I think if/when given the minutes Kanter is going to turn some heads.



Demarcus Cousins Vs. Greg Monroe – Monroe has that old school feeling to him, much like Duncan did even at a young age. Cousins is a bit reckless though very skilled. I take Monroe.



Javal Mcgee Vs. DeAndre Jordan – This is tough, but I’m taking DeAndre because I feel he’s more consistant, you know what you’re going to get from him, while JaVale is a complete wild card.



Elton Brand Vs. Kenyon Martin – I’ve always really liked Kenyons game, and even now both past their primes I think Kenyon is a bit better.



Paul Millsap Vs David West – While Millsap is younger and more promising, West is one of my favourite players in the league.



Al Horford Vs Al Jefferson – If he can stay healthy I think Horford is a better player.



Josh Smith Vs. Carmelo Anthony – I take Josh here, Melo is better offensively but is non-existant on defense, Josh is a much more well rounded player, can score, D, & rebound.



Prime Amare Vs Prime Shawn Kemp – You can’t stop the Reign.



Kobe Vs Wade – Sorry, but this isn’t even close.



Lebron Vs Durant – Love Durant, but he just doesn’t have the all-around game Lebron has. 



Shaq Vs Hakeem – Hakeem was more skilled, but Shaq was completely unstoppable. This is like watching a semi run into a hummer. Though the hummer is a beast and more mobile, the semi demolishes it.



Dr J Vs Larry Bird – Though I wasn’t old enough to ever watch either of these live, I think I’d take Bird if given the choice.

 

[The Scare Crow RisesParticipant]

Then why pick Curry over Holiday??? That’s the one pick on your board I feel didn’t match up to mine…Of course I haven’t finished my list yet… 

[CynthiaParticipant]

 @Legendary Poster:

Because I feel in that case the defense is a non-factor. Curry has the ability to be the #1 go to player on your team while Holiday doesn’t. I’m not saying Holiday is bad at offense because he’s deffinitely not. I also have a respect for pure shooters over drivers, which was also the case in picking Larry Bird, Kevin Love, & Gallinari over the people they were put against.

[HaleParticipant]

James Harden Vs. Joe Johnson-Johnson is better now, I’d rather have Harden

Evan Turner Vs. Tyreke Evans-



Demar Derezon Vs. Kawhi Leonard



Paul George Vs Wilson Chandler-Same as Harden/Johnson



Andre Iguadola Vs. Danny Granger



Rudy Gay Vs. Luol Deng-good scorer and big time defender



Jrue Holiday Vs. Stephan Curry



John Wall Vs. Kyrie Irving-I like Wall more, but irving is better



Kemba Walker Vs Brandon Knight



Lou Williams Vs OJ Mayo



JR Smith Vs Nick Young



Lavoy Allen(50th pick in the 2011 Draft) Vs Jonas Valencunas(5th pick in the 2011 Draft)



Derrick Rose Vs. Russell Westbrook-If he wasn’t hurt this wouldn’t even be close



Brandon Jennings Vs. Ty Lawson



Thad Young Vs. Danilo Gallinari



Eric Gordon Vs. Monta Ellis



Chris Paul Vs. Deron Williams



Tony Parker Vs. Rajon Rondo



Kevin Garnett Vs. Tim Duncan-Garnett’s better now, Duncan was better in his prime



Dwight Howard Vs. Andrew Bynum



Pau Gasol and Marc Gasol Vs. Dirk Nowitski and Chris Kaman



Micheal Beasley Vs. Derrick Williams



Vince Carter Vs. Tracy Mcgrady(LOL)-more of a team player, better in prime too



Ricky Rubio Vs. Jeremy Lin



Kevin Love Vs. Blake Griffin-I can no longer deny it



Lamarcus Aldrige Vs. Chris Bosh



Healthy Greg Oden Vs. Focused Roy Hibbert



Brook Lopez Vs. Robin Lopez



Derrick Favors Vs. Enes Kanter-Wash


Demarcus Cousins Vs. Greg Monroe-close



Javal Mcgee Vs. DeAndre Jordan



Elton Brand Vs. Kenyon Martin



Paul Millsap Vs David West



Al Horford Vs Al Jefferson



Josh Smith Vs. Carmelo Anthony



Prime Amare Vs Prime Shawn Kemp



Kobe Vs Wade



Lebron Vs Durant



Shaq Vs Hakeem (Today)



Dr J Vs Larry Bird (Today)

Brian Scalibrini Vs Matt Bonner

 

[mikeyvthedonParticipant]

<p>Who would you pick if you had to choose, exclude trivial things like Contract size/lenght, who’s a better player Today if you were building a Championship Team (Guess for a championship on May 15, 2012)

<p>James Harden Vs. Joe Johnson (More tried and true than James Harden. It is close and I think James may be a better player down the line, but today would go with Joe)

<p>Evan Turner Vs. Tyreke Evans (By the way, you are such a homer for choosing ET. I like Turner, but the 76ers could use Tyreke with Iguodala)

<p>DeMar DeRozan Vs. Kawhi Leonard (This is tough, because Leonard is playing really well and DeMar had a terrible season. Still think DeMar is probably the more seasoned player right now and has potential down the line as well. Good match-up, though)

<p>Paul George Vs Wilson Chandler (Will is hurt, so I guess I go with George. Seriously, though, George has really impressed me with his level headed play and defensive ability. Wilson may indeed be a slightly better All-Around player right now, but George would be my choice)

<p>Andre Iguoadola Vs. Danny Granger (Think I go with Iggy as well. He just does so many things well and is a much more dynamic defender. Granger is a better shooter, but his percentages this year were not overly impressive on the whole)

<p>Rudy Gay Vs. Luol Deng (I know that people love to $hit on Rudy Gay right now, but I still feel the Bulls would be in a much better position if they had him rather than Luol. The Grizzlies might be better with Luol, actually, for the scoring balance. But, I would rather have Rudy Gay, a player who is better at creating his shot. Defensively, do not see a major difference if you plug Rudy into Thibadeau’s scheme)

<p>Jrue Holiday Vs. Stephen Curry (Again, you are a complete homer. Jrue is the better defender, granted. But, Stephen is a beacon of offensive efficiency in my mind. I think that Curry has the makings of a star and while he is not in the traditional PG mold, I love what he brings as an offensive player. Stephen played fewer minutes and averaged more assists than Jrue. Granted, he does not have a point forward like Iggy, but Stephen shot a better three point percentage than Holiday shot from the field. Still have faith in Steph Curry, even though I like Jrue as well)

<p>John Wall Vs. Kyrie Irving (Down the line, Wall may put things together. Right now, Irving definitely seems to be the more complete player. Smart, composed and much more of a leader at this time)

<p>Kemba Walker Vs  Brandon Knight (Not even close. Knight is better now, had a better rookie season and just brings much more to the equation. In time, should be even more of a landslide. Think it was a huge mistake for the Bobcats not to take Knight 7th. Thought it than, more convinced now)

<p>Lou Williams Vs OJ Mayo (First non-homer pick by you. But(!), I know you have wanted to trade Lou Will forever! I like OJ more as well, just as an All-Around player. Rudy Gay and OJ Mayo were doomed from the get go. Bring OJ as a second or third option and it will not be bad. Some team will do it, hopefully. Either way, he is still a better defender than Lou)

<p>JR Smith Vs Nick Young (The lesser of two evils. Both are chuckers, still would rather have Nick Young on my team than JR)

<p>Lavoy Allen(50th pick in the 2011 Draft) Vs Jonas Valanciunas (5th pick in the 2011 Draft) (Truly a homer pick of insane, ridiculous, proportions. Of course Lavoy made more of a statement right now! Jonas hasn’t played in the NBA yet! Does that mean Allen is the better player? Or will have the better career? Come on, dude! Valanciunas is doing just fine and if Lavoy Allen had been on the Raps, they would have looked mental! This was such a set up for you! Butchered Valanciunas’ name, no way you were picking him, lol.)

<p>Derrick Rose Vs. Russell Westbrook (A ring gives Westbrook bragging rights, but it does not necessarily make him a better player. Is this not the same Scarecrow who was telling me last year that the Thunder would never win a chip with Westbrook running point? Come on, now! lol. Think Durant would not rather have a healthy Rose than Westbrook? Mr. Humble may say that, but he ain’t thinking it)

<p>Brandon Jennings Vs. Ty Lawson (Have always loved Brandon Jennings, think he is insanely athletic and at times a dynamic game changer. Lawson is a beast, much better right now. Just as fast end to end, better shooter, better decision maker and is built like a cannon ball instead of a paper clip. Easy pick)

<p>Thad Young Vs. Danilo Gallinari (Give me an H. Give me an O. Give me a M-E-R. The funny thing is, you hate other homers, which makes you more of one. It is just an insane degree of homerdom, good sir. If Thad Young were better than Gallinari, he would have shown it by now. He hasn’t. Gallinari is a fantastic shooter and a legit offensive option. Will take the more complete player, rather than already give the scenario that Thaddeus Young would be coming off your bench and Danilo would be a 2nd option. Your fantasy world is homerific! 🙂

<p>Eric Gordon Vs. Monta Ellis (Yeah, take the guy who played 25 games as a 23 year old over the guy who played 9 in a lockout season. 16 games difference, much like this season compared to a normal one. Gordon is stronger, Gordon is more complete, Gordon is who I want on my team)

<p>Chris Paul Vs. Deron Williams (I too was once a D-Will supporter. Chris Paul is better. Deron may get the better of their head-to-head match-ups, but the overall consistency and brilliance of Chris Paul is very real)

<p>Tony Parker Vs. Rajon Rondo (Again, I know not everyone is with me and are inspired by Rondo’s assists numbers and triple doubles. Still think Tony Parker is better. He is so difficult to stop, not sure Rondo can even do it. Yes, Rajon is Mr. Everything other than scoring and FT shooting, but Tony Parker keeps getting it done. Lets remember, he was the 2007 Finals MVP. Rondo won the 2008 Finals, but Parker keeps playing a huge role for a championship contender as well)

<p>Kevin Garnett Vs. Tim Duncan (Right now, would go with KG. Timmy is a shadow of his former self. KG may be as well, but he still seems to have more of the abilities that made him one of the best players in the league for years. Timmy career wise, but KG now)

<p>Dwight Howard Vs. Andrew Bynum (As great as Andrew Bynum has looked at times this season, he is not Dwight Howard. Dwight is still a better rebounder, still a better defender and even with a lack of an offensive game, he is still a better go-to scoring option. Bynum almost had me going, but he is still inconsistent and shows much of the same knucklehead qualities that have so many people pissed about Dwight)

<p>Pau Gasol and Marc Gasol Vs. Dirk Nowitzki and Chris Kaman (The bros. Gasol would take this right now. They have played together, have fantastic vision and are tougher than they are given credit for being. As much as Dirk lit Pau up last season, Marc would probably negate that with his lighting up of Kaman. Spain over Germany with the front court)

<p>Micheal Beasley Vs. Derrick Williams (You are indeed a Beasley supporter and deserve flack for it. I love how you mocked me for taking Nicolas Batum over Beasley in fantasy. “What a homer pick!” you scoffed! Well, I am taking Williams because I think I am getting flat out more effort. Over time, I think Williams will be better and while his defense is nothing to write home about, Beasley’s is closer to nothing)

<p>Vince Carter Vs. Tracy Mcgrady(LOL) (Went from Carter to McGrady, now back to Carter again. Vince played more of a role this year, so I go with him. At a time this would be a no brainer the other way, both are complete shells of their former selves. But, I think injuries have decimated Tracy even more than they have Vince)

<p>Ricky Rubio Vs. Jeremy Lin (Think this is a no brainer for me. Lin did well, won some games, but he is not the defender or floor general that is Rubio. Ricky’s shooting was poor, but Mike D’Antoni would have LOVED this kid. Might have actually saved his job rather than just prolonging the inevitable)

<p>Kevin Love Vs. Blake Griffin (Used to think Blake had it right now, but it goes to Kevin. Blake has more potential in many ways, but Kevin is so complete right now and was playing amazing basketball. When he started to decimate some of the better PF’s even more so than Blake, I gave the now to K-Love)

<p>Lamarcus Aldrige Vs. Chris Bosh (This was close for a while, still not incredibly lopsided. Still, LA gained that muscle and has a post game that Bosh really does not display. Still think Bosh is the better shooter, maybe a slightly better defensive rebounder, but LA has him beat in most other places. Think the Heat would love to have LaMarcus actually showing some back to the basket work, not to mention still being able to stretch the floor)

<p>Healthy Greg Oden Vs. Focused Roy Hibbert (No question. Not a doubt in my mind. Roy Hibbert no matter how “focused” would not be better than a healthy Greg Oden right now)

<p>Brook Lopez Vs. Robin Lopez (Kidding me? Brook has always been the better twin. Even with Robin being more athletic and all, Brook is a better All-Around basketball player. Robin is a bull in a china closet on the offensive end, even sometimes playing D. People saying Robin was the better of the two, well, they haven’t been right even when Brook was at his rebounding worst)

<p>Derrick Favors Vs. Enes Kanter (This is a good duo in my opinion. Think they will complement each other well. Favors has shown more, but I love Kanter’s aggression and think he will end up being better. Still like both players though, if Utah has patience they will be a better front court pairing than they have now)

<p>Demarcus Cousins Vs. Greg Monroe (Greg Monroe is not as talented as DeMarcus Cousins. But, Monroe knows what he is good at and is much smarter. Cousins killed him earlier in the year, but then Monroe came back did work. Going with the more level headed player here)

<p>Javale McGee Vs. DeAndre Jordan (Not a huge fan of either, think they both are guys I would not be happy paying 8 figure money too. Taking McGee, who is the more adept offensive player and equally as shaky a defender despite his shot blocking ability)

<p>Elton Brand Vs. Kenyon Martin (You stopped, but I am guessing you would homer this one too even though I know you are not crazy about him. Or you could pull a Lou Will, who knows, lol. Think that EB is still a more talented offensive player who has been a solid member of one of the leagues better defensive teams the past couple of years)

<p>Paul Millsap Vs David West (Paul is more heart I believe and I have never been a huge fan of West as a rebounder. Pacers look good, but I bet they would have rather had Millsap all things considered)

<p>Al Horford Vs Al Jefferson (Better defender and still has the ability to score. He has not been as heavily relied upon as Al Jeff, but I like Horford much more and think he is flat out more effective. Even if he is better off as a PF)

<p>Josh Smith Vs. Carmelo Anthony (Josh Smith is a better defender, everyone bangs there head on that. Melo is exponentially better at offense and is much more of a leader. What exactly has Josh Smith done in the play-offs that far exceeds Melo? Would New York be better with someone who is completely unreliable from outside of 15? Doubt it. Melo it is, even though people love bashing him. Not a huge Melo fan, still have a hard time believing Josh Smith is the better player of the two. Is Josh Smith a lock for Team USA? Case in point)

<p>Prime Amare Vs Prime Shawn Kemp (Shawn Kemp had more fan fare and was a more explosive dunker. Might have even been a better defender. But, he was not the absolute offensive weapon Amare was at his best. Amare at his best was better than Kemp in my mind)

<p>Kobe Vs Wade (Call me old fashioned. Many have moved on with the “Dwyane Wade is better than Kobe” train. I have not. Kobe Bryant is still incredibly complete and hungry. He is still leading his team and putting up fantastic scoring performances that make me feel like he has not lost a step. When he stops doing that, I might choose Wade. Haven’t yet)

<p>LeBron Vs Durant (Best player in basketball. By a wide margin, in my mind. Durant is incredibly impressive, but LeBron seems to have been a step ahead of him when you compare their careers side by side. Still is a big step ahead right now)

<p>Shaq Vs Hakeem (Today) (I am guessing you mean in their prime today, or starting out today. Either way, going with Shaq. Hakeem was a brilliant player, incredible offensive game and one of the better defensive centers of All-Time. He carried two teams to championships, but he did not carry as many teams with as little talent as Shaq had around him. Shaq was an absolute menace on both ends. A young Hakeem against a young Shaq would have been a sight to see, but I give it to Shaq. Even when Hakeem “crushed” Shaq, it was not as bad as many seem to think. Shaq crushed everyone else, before and after that Finals, that is for sure)

<p>Dr J Vs Larry Bird (Today) (Again, thinking you are talking about both in their prime. Larry Bird’s back issue would probably give Dr. J the edge TODAY, lol. But, 42-6. 42-6. Look up the story. Dr. J was a fantastic player, one of the best of All-Time. Bird was better as an All-Around player and just flat out cold. Your homerdom probably goes with Dr. J, but I urge you to research this more closely)

<p>Brian Scalibrine Vs Matt Bonner (The Redhead with less freckles. He is better)

 

This took a long time. Some were tough, but the most fun part was writing the little things I would say to you if you had your FREAKING X-BOX HEADSET! GET IT! Lol, hope all is well man.

[The Scare Crow RisesParticipant]

I was being as biased as possible when making my picks, everyone will take issue with my choice of Holiday over Curry, I’ll stand with my decision, not because I’m a homer, but because I feel Curry’s offensive stats are very misleading, he’s plays in a very fast paced offense, where he has always been given the green light to shoot…

Holiday is a WINNER, he’s done it against The Bulls, and now he’s doing it against the Celtics…Holiday has been the most consistant Sixer next to Iguadola’s defense and Turner’s rebounding/toughness, he’s the most consistant scorer during these playoffs, where is Steph Curry again???, booking his ticket to the NBA Draft Lottery…He’s had talent around him too, Ellis is one of the best pure scorers in the NBA if people like to admit it or not, David Lee is a good Power Forward…But what’s the big difference between the 2 players IMO…ever since the Sixers drafted Holiday they have been one of the best Defensive Teams in the NBA, ever since the Warriors drafted Steph Curry they’ve been on of the worst defensive teams in the entire NBA…

I can’t believe picking Evan Turner over Tyreke Evans would be seen as homerdom, Evans is from PHILLY, I have much more loyalty to players born in MY AREA than a player drafted to play for MY TEAM, Evan Tunner is from Chicago and played college ball in Ohio, he’s got more ties to the Mid West then to my East Coast City, he’d probally love to play for his hometown Bulls and that’s where the resentment towards Rose come from, Rose has the City and he would’ve like to have had a part of their Effection…We can swap Evans for Turner and see what happens, but honestly I like Evan’s mental toughness, his never back down attitude, he’s not afraid of Boston, he wasn’t afraid of Chicago, he will not be afraid of Miami, Tyreke is just not built like that, I know this from first hand experience as supporter/critic of both players…

[mikeyvthedonParticipant]

With Evan playing for Sacramento. I see where you are coming from, but I still have faith in Reke right now. Also, to be fair, the Warriors have been awful at defense long before they drafted Stephen (probably since 2007-ish after S-Jax shut down Dirk). Still think Tyreke has reckless abandon to him and is not afraid either. Evan is a good all-around player, but Reke averaged over 20-5-5 as a rookie. The kid can ball and is just on Sacramento. Do not think there suckage is really his fault.

I am cool with you choosing Jrue over Stephen, most of the homer stuff was to get back at you for the Nicolas Batum thing, lol. I understand you like Jrue and I like him as well. This was a bad year for Stephen injury wise, but I still think the kid is mad talented and thought Jrue kind of tapered off. The 76ers are a good team right now with a deep rotation. But, I think they are still lacking star power and that go-to scorer. To me, Evans and Curry would help that team incredibly with their acumen on that end of the floor.

[The Scare Crow RisesParticipant]

You know that the strenght of Tyreke Evans and Steph Curry is Offense, and yes right now tHe Sixers lack a go to guy, but they both lack the intangibles of Holiday and Turner 

Don’t get me wrong, Jrue did not set the world on fire either, he struggled this season as Lou Williams thrived, again I ask how is a guy supposed to show everything he has if he’s looking over his shoulder,Holiday and Turner both suffered through sophmore slumps because they were behind an All Star(Iggy) and a 6th man finalist(Lou Will)

The reason I’m so confident about them going is Their play in These Playoffs, right now Holiady and Turner are putting it all together, yes Evan needs to work on his outside shot and become more aggressive, and yes Holiday needs to assume the fulltime Pg duties and make Lou expendable, but look who is playing the best basketball of their young careers

I don’t want to sound like a Steph hater, I actually love his offensive game and would love to add his outside shooting if it were possible, but he’s just not the type of guy I build around unless I’m completely desperate

Would you as a GM of a Playoff Team, who would want defending the likes of CP3, Rondo, Parker, Rose, Westbrook, Deron Williams, Ty Lawson, John Wall etc etc….

Steph simply can’t keep up with those guys on defense, I believe that’s got a huge part to play in his injuries

Over the course of 82 plus post season, I’ll take Holiday everyday…

[mikeyvthedonParticipant]

The prima donna who currently calls himself "Legendary Poster" (Yes, I am allowed to joke around with him about how ridiculous his new screen name is, lol. Why not just make it "Rorschach" or something? Or, "Massive Philly Homer"?).

<p>Kevin Love Vs. Blake Griffin

<p>Lamarcus Aldrige Vs. Chris Bosh

<p>Healthy Greg Oden Vs. Focused Roy Hibbert

<p>Brook Lopez Vs. Robin Lopez

<p>Derrick Favors Vs. Enes Kanter

<p>Demarcus Cousins Vs. Greg Monroe

<p>Javal Mcgee Vs. DeAndre Jordan

<p>Elton Brand Vs. Kenyon Martin

<p>Paul Millsap Vs David West

<p>Al Horford Vs Al Jefferson

<p>Josh Smith Vs. Carmelo Anthony

<p>Prime Amare Vs Prime Shawn Kemp

<p>Kobe Vs Wade

<p>Lebron Vs Durant

<p>Shaq Vs Hakeem (Today)

<p>Dr J Vs Larry Bird (Today)

<p>Brian Scalibrini Vs Matt Bonner

I really am kidding about him being a prima donna, but I definitely want to see the rest of his choices. Good write ups about the other ones, even if I did not always agree with the choices.

[CynthiaParticipant]

 I’ve been waiting for the rest of his list myself. haha

He’s either writing a novel about it, or he’s forgot. It could also be because he only has one 76ers player left(not counting Dr. J), so maybe he’s unmotivated! =P

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