Tyrus Thomas total bust?
yeah he is still nothing like #4 pick should be..but this year while he is still only 24 he is playing very very well in those limited minutes..how about his per 40min stats of 22ppg11rpg 3bpg and even almost 2 spg..can he still become a very good player?
Thomas doesn't play smart. I don't think he'll ever be a very good player.
He'll always be an athletic high energy role player in my opinion.
^ pretty much, not really a good enough decison maker to be a starter IMO.
Along with not playing smart, he doesn't have any distinguishable basketball skills. He is a great athlete and leaper, but has not impoved on any other aspect of the game. I wasn't high on him when he was drafted, and am still not high on him.
Those stats per 40 minutes are irrevelant, because he has neither the skill level or intelligence to stay on the floor for that long.
every time tyrus has gotten above 30 minutes this year he has produced at a 20/10/2/2 level... and these werent against crap teams either...
Tyrus Thomas can be a really good player but he has to be more consistent. Also the team he is on right now is not really good for him. Can you imagine him on the Knicks or Phoenix. I think even on OKC, he could put up some really good numbers
I agree those per 40 means nothing nor does the per 30. what means the most is what he does with the time he is given!!
other number 4 picks
average that out and tyrus thomas isn't a bust for a number 4 pick. he would be somewhere in the middle
why is tyreke evans always left out when people mention notable 4th overall picks in drafts??? it bothers the sh!t out of me
My list only listed the draft from 2007 on down because thats all that was listed. Once again i don't recall anyone leaving Evans out when talking about number 4 picks in the draft.
im not saying just you... im talking everyone. whenever its talked about and how the number 4 picks in drafts turn out to be some of the best players in the league, tyreke's name always seems to get passed on
laker fans are obnoxious... bring the negatives. its true
Tyrke has only played one season so he's not gonna get alot of "one of the best players int he league" talk
hes notable because he won rookie of the year so if youre talking about notable guys picked at that spot he has to fall in that category
if he played with a great Pg like Paul,Williams or Nash he'd be a 15 to 20 point scorer...he's just got no leadership around him and the 1 year he played with Rose he was in the coaches doghouse all year...The Bobcats need a true point guard...I don't think Augustine fits their style of play...but with Brown gone who knows...they could start running and gunning...I think the Bobcats try to trade Diaw and Augustine for Andre Miller and Luke Babbit, then draft PG and try to trade Jackson or Wallace for picks or players in the front court...1 guy I think the Cats will gun for in the Draft is Josh Selby...he and Brandon Knight could be in Charlote next year...maybe Irving could slip to the Bobcats and play for Tarheels legend Micheal Jordan
Evans is good and noteable i agree but i dont recall anyone slighting him when talking about number 4 picks in the draft. Maybe they have but since he's been drafted i dont recall one post where he was slighted other than before he even played a game
i don't think PG has anything to do with it. Yes a pg help but if you're good enough to put up 20 you are gonna do it with or without a great point guard. Tyrus isn''t consistant at all so i dont think he would average 20 even if he played with cp3 and nash on the same team. He doesn't have the skills to score that much every game
If the Bobcats start running and gunning, I think it would work out for them. Both Jackson and Diaw played in a run n gun offense(G-State and Phoenix) and played very well in them. Wallace and Thomas are both very athletic and would thrive in that type of style. Augustin, like most point guards could fit in it too. Nazr can rebound and be like Biedrins was or how Lopez is now in G-State and Phoenix, or they could play small with Diaw at center.
Doesn't Don Nelson need a job? :)
They would score more and be more exciting but i don't think they would be much better. I said this before but a couple people (including tezo) didn't agree with me. "The Bobcats are in a very bad spot where they have good players and they are a ok team but they are not good enough to really compete for a title and they aren't bad enough to be able to get a high pick in the draft"
Rumor is the new coach is flirting with adding Tyrus to the starting 5 and he has instilled a 14 sec shot clock in practice. If he recreates the Bobcats into a Golden State type team, Tyrus should flourish. He doesn't have to be a genbius in that type pf system to produce big numbers... He just needs to hustle and be his usual athletic freakself and the numbers will be there.
He was taken 1 pick after Adam Morrison, even if he doesn't live up to his potential, that pick alone will make him look considerably better. He's so inconsistant and like IndianaBasketball said, he doesn't play smart, but I dont think 10-12 ppg 5-7 rpg and 1.5 blcks per game is bust level for a #4 pick, just not a good pick in retrospect.
"Thomas doesn't play smart. I don't think he'll ever be a very good player.
He'll always be an athletic high energy role player in my opinion."
I agree with those points 100%.
Tyrus Thomas = Stromile Swift
i doubt if he gets to Swight level where he is in and out of the League
I never thought he should of been the 4th pick Thomas' problem is he was picked too high because of the lust affair people get with players coming off of a huge NCAA Tourney.... The Bulls really blew that one with the guy who everybody knew should of went first in the draft drops into their lap with the second pick and they trade it for Thomas....SMH....
When i watched that LSU team i honestly thought the best player on the court was Glen Davis and that Davis was the player with the most transferable skill to the NBA. Davis had the size and agility but he also had a sweet shooting touch and some post moves. Davis was the guy who really lead that team Thomas use to just get dunks and energy plays. Looking at their careers now they're not that far apart.
I agree Thomas is in a bad situation and his numbers will get better because Silas is going to speed the tempo up a bit. But he will never be better then Rudy Gay. But Thomas was suppose to have that fire that Gay lacked....Yeah whatever....look at em now.
Thomas reminds me of Swift skill wise, not career wise.
Both players were about the same height, length and had similar athleticism. They both get you excited, but then let you down.