Tyreke's Best Fit
So i know i just made a post about tyreke but i had another thought about what he could potentially become...
I'm wondering if/when tyreke develops a reliable mid range jumper, in conjunction with his uncanny ability to get to the rim at will, could he be better at the 2 position? I say this because he obviously has the size,strength and quickness at 6'6 225 to play the 2 and even the 3. If he was given the role of shooting guard (meaning score and find players at your own discretion) rather than do everything would it serve him better? If he could get a better pull up jumper, a little more range on his 3 point shooting can he be effective enough? He can get to the rim at will, pair that with a good jump shot along with the killer instinct he displayed on several occasions last season, the willingness to take the last shot, could he develop the prowess of say a kobe or dwade in the sense that he wants the ball in the end of the game, you clear a side of the court for him and he makes it happen? The reason i bring this up is because (and this could be me hoping and dreaming) but i dont see us (the kings) making it to the playoffs this season. We have a ton of swingmen (garcia, casspi, greene, wright etc) as well as a ton of bigs but our point guard position right now is tyreke, beno udrih and pooh jeter (i dont know what he was signed for) So granted we miss the playoffs, we'll be in the lottery and at the very least number 14 in next years draft. Im assuming we'll be number 10 or something close to that. I've watched brandon knight from kentucky and i think he could be a great fit next to tyreke IF tyreke could actually become a shooting guard on a night to night basis. Brandon knight is a dynamic offensive player as well as defensive player. He's 6'3 fast as all hell, a great playmaker. To me he's jason terry with defensive stopper potential. He probably cant shoot as well as terry right now but he can create his own shot really well. If we could draft him and play him alongside tyreke (someone who can be strong where tyreke isnt as far as shooting 3s) would that be best for tyreke or is tyreke best suited to be a point guard?
Brandon Knight would look good next to Evans.
I think the Kings should draft a PG like Knight and move Evans to the 2 if they really wanna win a title down the road.
5 tyreke evans on the court would be nice.
J Williams/G Payton
Billups was the best scoring PG out of these guys but DET was so balanced and an amazing defensive team
Scoring Point Guards dont win rings in the NBA but Star wing players do. SAC doesnt need an all-star PG because if he slides to the 2 Evans is potentially a Dwyane Wade type player if he gets a jumper.
I like tall PGs in general. I think he has proven that he has court vision getting 6 assists with a team that basically has no shooters or other real scoring threats.
Maybe if you put a Mo Williams type of player next to him, a small shooter I wouldn't mind if he slides to the 2 spot though. He would be the main ball handler anyways.
Lebron James couldnt win with Mo next to him. How could Evans? I agree that type of player would be a fit but I just dont think Mo Williams is good answer to start on a contender.
he's fine at pg i think he just needs a good shooter next to him hopefully the kings get j.r smith he's a free agent next year
Are you unable to read? I didn't say: Put Mo Williams next to him.
I said: Put a Mo Williams type of player next to him. A small shooter who doesn't handle the ball too much.
So read before you comment.
why do you want mo williams next to him when he already has beno, beno isnt nearly as bad as you guys think he shoot 52% from the field 37% from the 3 with only 199 attempts while mo took 371 attempts while shooting 42%. Beno had less assists but if he had lebron on his team i think he would of surpassed mo in assists. Stats dont tell the whole story Beno is a better playmaker and shooter then mo
LoL.. These guys just cant read or they cant comprehend... I got ya though man.. I think that a combo guard like Mayo would be the best type of player to put next to Evans...
Those types of guys...
Beno had a good season and I like him as a player. But I don't think he is an NBA starter.
And saying that Beno is a better shooter and playmaker than Mo is one of the most ridiculous things I ever read.
I think Rudy Fernandez would be a good fit this year for the Kings, They do not have a whole lot of wing players so Rudy could get the playing time he has been craving, while sitting on Portland’s bench, and his outside shooting could help the Kings beat teams that try and crowd the lane. The only problem would be putting together a fair enough trade because I do not think the Kings are looking to move anyone on their team.
I think PG is a good fit for Tyreke; why? Because he has shown that he can guard almost any PG in the NBA as well as most other PGs can, so if you have him at the 1 then you can create mismatches at that position on the other end, because even if a larger player switches off to guard Tyreke then the smaller PG now has to guard whomever you have at SG. As long as Tyreke can keep up with the PG he is defending then there is no reason to have a smaller guard paired with him.
Also, you cannot just look at who played PG for the recent past champions and say that if Tyreke played point he would not win, but if he played SG he could... I understand were that argument would come from but to make assumptions like that you need a much larger sample size than we have available.
Yeah, Eric Gordon would make perfectly sense, but Tyreke would be a PG in that case.
Delonte West - doesn't make sense at all, he can't really shoot. They don't complement each other.
OJ Mayo - would be nice
Manu - You can put Manu next to anyone and he would fit, so not really a good point.
And yeah Rudy would fit well, but he is a whiny wuss so that won't happen.
I think that all of those guys that I mentioned cant be classified as a PG or a SG, just like Tyreke.. Eric Gordon is probably the only guy that you can say is really a SG.. Although, the does a lot of ball handeling..
West can shoot.. Pretty well infact. He can guard any SG or PG and he cant be classified as either..
Manu played a point guard role with George Hill...
IMO, 2 guys starting that are excellent at both guard positions is the ideal situation... You would never have a mismatch because both players do everything well..
All of the guys I mentioned are like Evans.. You cant put them into one position like you can CP3 or Kobe... It is up in the air with them..
Yes, West can shoot. But only if you leaave him open, I think someone like Gordon would fit better next to Tyreke because he is a real good shooter and not an average shooter.
I said that Manu is not a good point because Manu is an awesome player. He plays 3 positions can shoot and drive and plays great defense. You can put him next to anyone on almost all positions.
I think Tyreke needs a guard that complements him and that is a shooter that is able to play defense. I don't think it matters if it is a shooting PG or a shooting SG because in the end the ball will be in Tyreke hands anyway.
Right but you are the one that started saying something about positions.. If there are 2 guys that are just guards, then what?? Then it doenst matter...
Yep, I like your genereal point of two combo guards. If Tyreke learns to post up smaller guards they could punish a bunch of teams.
tyreke's pretty good at posting up already;
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Sacremento didn't make a play for kirk hinrich this summer, especially since chicago just gave him away. For me He's probably the best complimentary guy for evans.
he can Defend 3 positions, play both on and off the ball. is a good shooter, and seems to embrace the mentor type role.
Yep, Kirk and Tyreke would fit pretty well, just as Rose and Kirk did. The problem is his contract. He is good, but not 10mil for the next two years years good. Or three I don't remember.
That would be the perfect fit for tyreke, way better fit than him and rose. Can play point and 2, plus is one of the best on ball defenders in the league.
Imagine Evans,Mayo,Gay and Gasol going forward Memphis should've chose Reke IMO they would be a top 6 team and they could of drafted Ed Davis this past year and has a GREAT 5 going forward
isn't actually that bad. he has 2 years 17 milion. 9 this year and 8 next year.
the sallary is better when you take into account that next year will be a lockout, so he probably only gets paid 4 of those.
i think the real issue is beno and finding minutes for everyone, because he is on something like 6 mil a year for the next 4.
Beno is under contract for 3 more years including this year for around 6.9 million dollars a year (average).
I am pretty sure Kirks contract would destroy the cap space the Kings would have this coming summer (I think its like 20 mil), I just do not think he is that much of an upgrade to kill your chances at landing someone big, not that there is really much of a chance right now...
Beno is the man.
I actually think Stephen Curry would be the perfect fit for Reke. But honestly, an undersized 2 guard who can shoot and defend is what Reke needs. Reke can play SG on D and PG on the other end. I thought Avery Bradley would have been a nice fit. He's an above average defender, but isn't a gifted playmaker and can get tunnel vision. There's a dude called Joe Crawford (I think), a 6-0 PG/SG who is a freshman in college this year and was called the most gifted scorer in his class. Sactown should take a look at him.
That said, there does seem to be a trend that the winning teams don't have a PG as their best scorer. Reke would be such a gifted scorer if he could shoot a little better than you almost wouldn't want him to be so worried about making plays.
Edit button doesn't seem to be working. But just found him, his name is Joe Jackson, playing for Memphis this season and apparently performed quite well in the Bahamas.