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Tyreke Evans what's going on?

Hey Im not a big fan of the kings, nor have I been following them in depth as of late. But Tyreke Evans's numbers have deteriorated every year since his rookie year. His minutes have decreased and yet his efficiency has remained constant and unchanging all these years. FOr someone who promissed to be a star, why have his minutes gone down. Why has his production not improved. What's going on with my man Tyreke Evans??


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He needs

new teammates, new team, new coach, new surrounding. In short a new start

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He was never promised to be a

He was never promised to be a star. I think his decreasing numbers are a product of more offensive talent around him (Cousins in particular) and Tyreke not improving his game enough to dominate the ball like he was able to as a rookie.
They should look to deal him and take what they can get because I don't think he'll be worth whatever amount his next contract will be.

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Tyreke is a guy that needs to

Tyreke is a guy that needs to have the ball alot to be super effective, now that he's no longer viewed as a point guard his touches have decreased hence why his production decreased

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I'd love to see Evans turn

I'd love to see Evans turn into a better Ron Ar... Errrgh, Metta World Peace.

Quit trying to be a star and play the game in reverse. Become the lockdown defender every team dreams of, pick his spots on offense, move without the ball, set effective screens, get out in transition and hit the open shot... "open" being the keyword. No need for hero ball.

If Evans could learn to play like this he could be an extremely valuable piece to just about every team in the league.

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You're basically saying that

You're basically saying that you'd like to see him become a completely different player.

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Common Siggy. You know

Common Siggy. You know aswell as I do that these are fundamentals that are usually half assed at all levels of basketball.

These skills are already in Evans pocket he just doesn't focus on them.

Last season for the Knicks, Shumpert came in as one of the worst chuckers I've ever seen. I remember watching him take 20 shots in something like 15 minutes in one game. After the allstar break, he stopped shooting and played some of the most inspired man to man defense the NBA has to offer.

There's no reason Evans can't be that guy. The tools are there...

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I don't know about that.

I don't know about that. Some players play a certain way their entire life so it's ingrained in their system. Through every level of basketball, Tyreke has played that ball-dominant, dribble happy, selfish style. Ask certain players to play a different style/role than what they're accustomed to and they end up thinking too much and being less effective because the style of play is so foreign to him. Asking guys like Tyreke and Evan Turner to play more off the ball wasn't the coaches misusing them. The coaches tried to have them learn to expand their games so that they can become more complete players. Neither of the aforementioned guys responded well to that and the fans just complained about how the coaches are jerking them around.

Think about it, if Tyreke played the way you suggest, he still wouldn't live up to people's expectations. He was expected (mistakenly IMO) to BUILD upon his 20-5-5 season. Anything less than that and you end up with threads like this asking what happened.

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All very true and valid

All very true and valid points.... However, I would add that virtually every player in the NBA has been a star on every level of basketball they play untill they get to the NBA. I'm not suggesting a player like Dwight Howard learn to play the point... but this is an adjustment I believe Evans could make.

What I was suggesting is taking the "thinking" part of the game away on offense, IE not having Evans create offense for himself or for others every trip down the floor. Should he focus on just trying to destroy his opponent defensively, the game will seem much easier for him and he can slowly and opportunistically get his points in the flow of the game. His rebounds, steals and blocks should increase and with better shot selection his shooting #'s should be respectable all the while providing a much appreciated boost to the rest of his teammates.

Evans is vastly superior to MWP on offense and will continue to be even after making this switch. The beautiful part of this is that he can pull out the crossover when opponents least expect it because they will be accustomed to Evans defering on offense.

If Evans was not 6ft6 and 230-40 pounds of muscle then I wouldn't have brought this topic up... but i think he can make it work and carve out a very valuable role for himself the rest of his career.

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dallas mavericks

team that can give him more time and new fresh start..no other than the slamping dallas mavericks

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Tyreke Evans joined Lebron,

Tyreke Evans joined Lebron, Jordan and Oscar Robertson as the only rookies to average 20-5-5 in their rookie season.

Big things were expected for him............

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Don't blame him

Evans is struggling because what was a team that was to build around him being a ball dominant SG, is now a &$#%#&@! up of a roster intended to be built around Cousins. (Is my asusmption anyway) He's a product of his enviorment. And if he ever gets traded look out because he will thrive, quote me on that.

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Oh yeah one more thing

&$#%#&@! KEITH SMART. Garbage coach, he's another reason why all of the kings talent is dissapearing. I'm certain he'll never have a job in the NBA ever again after this.

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how was this guy never

how was this guy never expected to be a star?

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His rookie year was a farce

His rookie year was a farce and the numbers were not sustainable. The Kings did everything in their power to promote this kid as a star, even if it meant playing a terrible brand of basketball and giving him the freedom to do whatever he wanted to do with the ball. It wasn't an uncommon sight to see him pounding the ball into the ground for 20 seconds a possession forcing his teammates to just stand there and watch as he went 1 on 5. It's no surprise to me that his numbers dropped once they acquired more offensive talent, shifted their team strategy and tried to get others involved. He was never one to be deserving of the amount of freedom that he had because he makes no one else on his team better.

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He needs a new starts. I

He needs a new starts. I don't think it's 100% his fault. Sacramento's organization is probably some to blame.

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personally... I think his in

personally... I think his in capability to hit jumpers really hinders his game...he got away with it his rookie since no one else was really stepping up... but as you said siggy, as the kings acquired more players with offensive capability... not exactly limiting his chances... but playing with guys like DMC and thornton and with no true PG doesn't help... to his credit... he shot a good percentage for a rookie with no dudes to pass the ball to aside from kevin martin in 2010...
honestly... ive never thought he would be a superstar... but at least get some all star appearances

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I don't get why people still

I don't get why people still think this guy can be a Star,also blame everyone else around him. What does he bring to the table other then dribbling the ball ? I'm not going go into, because I'll be rewriting things have said a few times already. C'mon now people he had a fluke first year is that really that hard to believe ?

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im with u on the first part.

im with u on the first part. i also do not think he will become a star and wont explain anymore like you coz ive said it like 3x here. but i think he's a real beast on his rookie year, made me believe he is the next big thing. but he just declined early lmao. plain and simple... he just.. declined lol

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The Kings made some very poor

The Kings made some very poor roster choices and instead of building around Reke and Cousins, they kept bringing in offensive players with limited defense and now have a team full of players fighting for shots instead of having a team full of defenders doing the dirty work while Reke and Cousins carry them on offense.

There is nothing wrong with Tyreke's talent level his opportunities have just declined. Tyreke is still one of the biggest, longest, strongest guards in the league with some of the most wicked handles and an ability to finish around the rim like few others. Reke shoots shoots a better % then Cousins so it's not like he's still taking bad shots.

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