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- Posted on: Wed, 06/05/2013 - 10:36pm #49785
Monster77ParticipantI am a little surprised about how little love Trey Burke is receiving on Draft Boards. You have McLenmore who people question his drive, Noelwho has a bung knee and may stay perpetually stay skinny (see Marcus Camby), Bennett one year and undersized and Len unproven with health concerns. People say he’s undersized but he is the same size as Chris Paul. He is a leader, he wants to be great and he is fearless. I would probably take him over most of these guys.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/06/2013 - 12:59am #791361
r377ParticipantI really like Burke, depending on which team he is drafted to I think he could make a good run at the ROY honours….
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/06/2013 - 12:59am #791286
r377ParticipantI really like Burke, depending on which team he is drafted to I think he could make a good run at the ROY honours….
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/06/2013 - 1:25am #791369
GrovesinternationalParticipantBurke is one of my five favorite players in the draft, I want my Magic to pick him up but with the strength of next years draft I wouldn’t mind them taking a risk on a Noel or McLemore to let them struggle (or sit out, in the case of Noel) for for this year so that we take a good player next year. But if the magic want to get a ready to play guy i would take Burke or, if possible, move back to 4 or 5 to get him.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/06/2013 - 1:25am #791294
GrovesinternationalParticipantBurke is one of my five favorite players in the draft, I want my Magic to pick him up but with the strength of next years draft I wouldn’t mind them taking a risk on a Noel or McLemore to let them struggle (or sit out, in the case of Noel) for for this year so that we take a good player next year. But if the magic want to get a ready to play guy i would take Burke or, if possible, move back to 4 or 5 to get him.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/06/2013 - 1:46am #791302
TallmanNYCParticipantMarcus Camby was very good for a long time. If Noel ever leads the leagues in blocks while also pulling down nearly 12 rebounds a game (because that is what Camby did a few times, and one year it was 13 rebounds per game), then yes he will justify going number one in the draft.
But Burke is really good. He will help any team.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/06/2013 - 1:46am #791376
TallmanNYCParticipantMarcus Camby was very good for a long time. If Noel ever leads the leagues in blocks while also pulling down nearly 12 rebounds a game (because that is what Camby did a few times, and one year it was 13 rebounds per game), then yes he will justify going number one in the draft.
But Burke is really good. He will help any team.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/06/2013 - 2:30am #791312
jjbutler73ParticipantIf you look at how championship teams are built, it’s not around great point guards. The last true superstar point guard to win a ring was Isaiah Thomas. JKidd got one late in his career, past his superstar years. Rondo got one as a 4th option, before his superstar years. Nash, CP3, DWill, all those guys, zero rings. I would want my team using a top 10 pick somewhere other than point guard.
0- Posted on: Thu, 06/06/2013 - 3:16am #791340
GrovesinternationalParticipantwould you want them to draft a position other than point guard with a top 10 pick if the best player available was a point guard, or if they need a point guard… I can’t see Noel Being a centerpiece, and the there’s a good chance that Oladipo, Porter, Bennett, McLemore, Zeller or Len don’t become centerpieces of championship teams either (very few players in each draft do). Burke isn’t a guaranteed star but if he’s the best player available or you need a point guard and you have a top 10 pick then you take him or whoever the best point guard available is. I’m sure everyone would take Rajon rondo in the top 10 (2006) knowing what they know now even though he may not be a lone centerpiece he has been and can be a great star player or even 2nd option (or 3rd option if you’re lucky)
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/06/2013 - 3:16am #791414
GrovesinternationalParticipantwould you want them to draft a position other than point guard with a top 10 pick if the best player available was a point guard, or if they need a point guard… I can’t see Noel Being a centerpiece, and the there’s a good chance that Oladipo, Porter, Bennett, McLemore, Zeller or Len don’t become centerpieces of championship teams either (very few players in each draft do). Burke isn’t a guaranteed star but if he’s the best player available or you need a point guard and you have a top 10 pick then you take him or whoever the best point guard available is. I’m sure everyone would take Rajon rondo in the top 10 (2006) knowing what they know now even though he may not be a lone centerpiece he has been and can be a great star player or even 2nd option (or 3rd option if you’re lucky)
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/06/2013 - 4:08am #791356
JunkYardDogParticipant… heard about tony parker ?…
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/06/2013 - 4:08am #791430
JunkYardDogParticipant… heard about tony parker ?…
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- Posted on: Thu, 06/06/2013 - 2:30am #791386
jjbutler73ParticipantIf you look at how championship teams are built, it’s not around great point guards. The last true superstar point guard to win a ring was Isaiah Thomas. JKidd got one late in his career, past his superstar years. Rondo got one as a 4th option, before his superstar years. Nash, CP3, DWill, all those guys, zero rings. I would want my team using a top 10 pick somewhere other than point guard.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/06/2013 - 2:52am #791328
RafterParticipantBurke was getting mad love during the NCAA tourney and some posters here were very high on him before that. I like him but it’s very hard project him if he isn’t drafted past 8 as the teams in the 9-12 range already have a PG stud and have needs elsewhere. If somehow, some way the Jazz could steal him at 14, a core of Kanter, Favours, Hayward, Burks and then with a PG building block in Burke things would look very promising.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/06/2013 - 2:52am #791402
RafterParticipantBurke was getting mad love during the NCAA tourney and some posters here were very high on him before that. I like him but it’s very hard project him if he isn’t drafted past 8 as the teams in the 9-12 range already have a PG stud and have needs elsewhere. If somehow, some way the Jazz could steal him at 14, a core of Kanter, Favours, Hayward, Burks and then with a PG building block in Burke things would look very promising.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/06/2013 - 3:15am #791338
B-ball fanParticipantI see Burke as a Jameer Nelson-type player in the right situation. He is good, but I’m not sure there is a top 10 team that definitely needs him. The Pelicans and Kings both could draft him if they aren’t higher on someone else, but if they pass on him, I could see him falling to the Jazz. Burke is very steady and efficient, but he will need to get even more creative off-the-dribble to become a good starting pg, as he lacks the speed and quickness to maintain his NCAA pick-and-roll success without absolutely maximizing his ballhandling ability.
I do worry about Burke as a top 5 pick because the pg position is so strong today it is hard for players with mediocre physical tools to become even average starters. Just about all of the NBA’s top 15 pgs are more athletic than Burke and some other pgs with mediocre physical tools have been overdrafted in recent years (Acie Law IV, DJ Augustin, Brandon Knight, Jimmer Fredette, Nolan Smith, Kendall Marshall, Austin Rivers, etc.) Of course there are good pgs in the NBA without tremendous physical tools, such as Steph Curry and Steve Nash, but athletic pgs have panned out more often. This may be because pgs more reliably improve their games over the course of their career than players at other positions, limiting the value in picking “pro-ready” pgs.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/06/2013 - 3:15am #791412
B-ball fanParticipantI see Burke as a Jameer Nelson-type player in the right situation. He is good, but I’m not sure there is a top 10 team that definitely needs him. The Pelicans and Kings both could draft him if they aren’t higher on someone else, but if they pass on him, I could see him falling to the Jazz. Burke is very steady and efficient, but he will need to get even more creative off-the-dribble to become a good starting pg, as he lacks the speed and quickness to maintain his NCAA pick-and-roll success without absolutely maximizing his ballhandling ability.
I do worry about Burke as a top 5 pick because the pg position is so strong today it is hard for players with mediocre physical tools to become even average starters. Just about all of the NBA’s top 15 pgs are more athletic than Burke and some other pgs with mediocre physical tools have been overdrafted in recent years (Acie Law IV, DJ Augustin, Brandon Knight, Jimmer Fredette, Nolan Smith, Kendall Marshall, Austin Rivers, etc.) Of course there are good pgs in the NBA without tremendous physical tools, such as Steph Curry and Steve Nash, but athletic pgs have panned out more often. This may be because pgs more reliably improve their games over the course of their career than players at other positions, limiting the value in picking “pro-ready” pgs.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/06/2013 - 3:31am #791346
laxmisonParticipantHes more DJ Augustine than CP3. Remember DJ Augustine won NPOY of the year his sophmore year he was a great college player too. I think Burke just doesn’t have the physical tools to be a great player(lacks getting consistent separation) but can be a real solid player.
0- Posted on: Thu, 06/06/2013 - 4:07am #791360
ShyhillParticipantHe’s kinda like Kemba in the way that their size will hold them back from dominating or they would have to work twice as hard in defense. I still think Burke and walker are both starters idk about Agustin
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/06/2013 - 4:07am #791434
ShyhillParticipantHe’s kinda like Kemba in the way that their size will hold them back from dominating or they would have to work twice as hard in defense. I still think Burke and walker are both starters idk about Agustin
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- Posted on: Thu, 06/06/2013 - 3:31am #791420
laxmisonParticipantHes more DJ Augustine than CP3. Remember DJ Augustine won NPOY of the year his sophmore year he was a great college player too. I think Burke just doesn’t have the physical tools to be a great player(lacks getting consistent separation) but can be a real solid player.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/06/2013 - 4:09am #791358
A Lil EnglishParticipantAugustin did not win NPOY his sophomore year, that was Hansbrough. I see your point though and would also say he’s closer to Kemba.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/06/2013 - 4:09am #791432
A Lil EnglishParticipantAugustin did not win NPOY his sophomore year, that was Hansbrough. I see your point though and would also say he’s closer to Kemba.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/06/2013 - 4:42am #791366
Prime TimeParticipantTrey Burke reminds me of Mike Bibby. I think Orlando needs to draft him 2. He’s a natural leader, and that’s what teams should look for in the point guard.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/06/2013 - 4:42am #791440
Prime TimeParticipantTrey Burke reminds me of Mike Bibby. I think Orlando needs to draft him 2. He’s a natural leader, and that’s what teams should look for in the point guard.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/06/2013 - 5:29am #791385
Hector_Reyes_8ParticipantI think Burke will have to work twice as hard to be successful. His worst-case scenario is DJ Augustin, but he’s got Chris Paul potential. Chris Paul is an extremely hard worker, if Trey develops a work ethic like Paul, he’ll have a future as a starter, at worst. I’m hoping he gets picked up by the Magic, but I’m not too sure. He is a great player, I hope he does well.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/06/2013 - 5:29am #791458
Hector_Reyes_8ParticipantI think Burke will have to work twice as hard to be successful. His worst-case scenario is DJ Augustin, but he’s got Chris Paul potential. Chris Paul is an extremely hard worker, if Trey develops a work ethic like Paul, he’ll have a future as a starter, at worst. I’m hoping he gets picked up by the Magic, but I’m not too sure. He is a great player, I hope he does well.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/06/2013 - 5:42am #791399
FutureNBAGMParticipantI still would love for him to slide to my Pistons at #8, not sure if it will happen though
0- Posted on: Thu, 06/06/2013 - 5:47am #791401
ShyhillParticipantHe would be buried 6 feet deep in their alrdy small backcourt
0- Posted on: Thu, 06/06/2013 - 5:57am #791409
FutureNBAGMParticipantSo we could move Knight to a 6th man role and use Stuckeys expiring deal as trade bait. Lots of possibilities.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/06/2013 - 5:57am #791482
FutureNBAGMParticipantSo we could move Knight to a 6th man role and use Stuckeys expiring deal as trade bait. Lots of possibilities.
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- Posted on: Thu, 06/06/2013 - 5:47am #791474
ShyhillParticipantHe would be buried 6 feet deep in their alrdy small backcourt
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- Posted on: Thu, 06/06/2013 - 5:42am #791472
FutureNBAGMParticipantI still would love for him to slide to my Pistons at #8, not sure if it will happen though
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/06/2013 - 8:14am #791560
scootover7ParticipantI would be happy if the Magic draft Burke or McLemore. I think Trey Burke will become an allstar. I do agree that Burke isn’t getting enough respect on these boards. If Cleveland takes McLemore then the Magic I pray take Burke. Trey Burke if doesn’t go to the Magic needs to be drafted by the Pelicians or the Kings. If he gets drafted by the Magic I will be buying a Trey Burke jersey.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/06/2013 - 8:14am #791487
scootover7ParticipantI would be happy if the Magic draft Burke or McLemore. I think Trey Burke will become an allstar. I do agree that Burke isn’t getting enough respect on these boards. If Cleveland takes McLemore then the Magic I pray take Burke. Trey Burke if doesn’t go to the Magic needs to be drafted by the Pelicians or the Kings. If he gets drafted by the Magic I will be buying a Trey Burke jersey.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/06/2013 - 10:26am #791631
mamadouParticipantBurke a king, time to let thomas joking around the bench, eventually the start of something for them….
Would have been legit for the magic, but they need to lose now and draft on a LT standpoint.0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/06/2013 - 10:26am #791704
mamadouParticipantBurke a king, time to let thomas joking around the bench, eventually the start of something for them….
Would have been legit for the magic, but they need to lose now and draft on a LT standpoint.0 - AuthorPosts
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