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- Posted on: Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:27pm #56242
Flameres15Participanthttp://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=o9ck8ub
Cleveland: Kevin Love
New Orleans: Nikola Pekovic
Minesota: Eric Gordon, Dion Waiters, Tristan Thompson, Alonzo Gee, and the #1 overall pick.
this is a huge haul for the Wolves, similar to the deal that led Carmelo to the Knicks. They would have to put up with Eric Gordon for 2 years, but he could become trade bait if he has a decent year. Tristan Thompson isn’t much of an offensive player, but the Wolves would need to get him involved immediately. Waiters is the gem of this trade, as he has a lot of potential and would be on a team not looking to make the playoffs, but rather develop talent. The #1 pick is an obvious need, and if the Wolve can keep Dieng (which they may have to trade to Cleveland), they will have their defensive anchor. It may hurt losing their 2 best post scorers, but the potential would be great. With the #1 pick, the Wolves can select Jabari Parker to take over the post scoring (plays more of a combo forward).
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:32pm #917260
Flameres15ParticipantThe Cavs get their superstar, and add to their marketability towards LBJ, if they go that direction. They would need to do a sign-trade to aquire LeBron, and the Cavs can give some of their depth for him. Anyways, Love gives them a building block, and would speed up the rebuilding process.
The Pelicans are the true winners here, as they get Pekovic for Eric Gordon. Gordon can be a good player, but the Pelicans aren’t the team for that. Pekovic can hold his own, and he can give them a low post scorer. They would move Davis back to PF, and give Pekovic the larger stronger match ups.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:32pm #917129
Flameres15ParticipantThe Cavs get their superstar, and add to their marketability towards LBJ, if they go that direction. They would need to do a sign-trade to aquire LeBron, and the Cavs can give some of their depth for him. Anyways, Love gives them a building block, and would speed up the rebuilding process.
The Pelicans are the true winners here, as they get Pekovic for Eric Gordon. Gordon can be a good player, but the Pelicans aren’t the team for that. Pekovic can hold his own, and he can give them a low post scorer. They would move Davis back to PF, and give Pekovic the larger stronger match ups.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:55am #917284
thetrademachineryParticipanti don’t see CLE agreing waiters + thompson + #1 pick for Love
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:55am #917153
thetrademachineryParticipanti don’t see CLE agreing waiters + thompson + #1 pick for Love
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/11/2014 - 3:31am #917320
FutureNBAGMParticipantWhy would Cleveland sacrifice all of that for a guy who could easily turn out to be a one year rental?
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/11/2014 - 3:31am #917188
FutureNBAGMParticipantWhy would Cleveland sacrifice all of that for a guy who could easily turn out to be a one year rental?
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/11/2014 - 3:39am #917326
GStatesince88ParticipantNo way in HELL the Wolves are giving up Love and Pekovic in that deal. Even if they were to get Varejao instead of Gee, they would be giving up two (although not complimentary on the court) great below the rim big men.
Also, it would be great risk versus great reward for Cleveland. Love is pretty much the best PF in the league, and his no b.s. mentality would do wonders for the Cavs. Embiid really did not have the impact he should have had in college, but his ceiling and untapped potential are just so intriguing.
I would pull the trigger on the deal if I were the Cavs, but not the Wolves. Cavs have an above average cast of serviceable big men with Hawes, Varejao, and Zeller, who would all do relatively well next to Love.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/11/2014 - 3:39am #917194
GStatesince88ParticipantNo way in HELL the Wolves are giving up Love and Pekovic in that deal. Even if they were to get Varejao instead of Gee, they would be giving up two (although not complimentary on the court) great below the rim big men.
Also, it would be great risk versus great reward for Cleveland. Love is pretty much the best PF in the league, and his no b.s. mentality would do wonders for the Cavs. Embiid really did not have the impact he should have had in college, but his ceiling and untapped potential are just so intriguing.
I would pull the trigger on the deal if I were the Cavs, but not the Wolves. Cavs have an above average cast of serviceable big men with Hawes, Varejao, and Zeller, who would all do relatively well next to Love.
0- Posted on: Wed, 06/11/2014 - 5:49am #917249
phila9012ParticipantI would probably do it if I was the timberwolves. Pek is worth more than eric Gordon. Also it wouldn’t make much sense to have EG waiters and martin, who are all SGs who can score. As a Twolves fan I would take Thompson to replace love, and the first pick for love or if the cavs included waiters hopefully the twolves would give up martin to the cavs. Then trade Pekovic because dieng is a starter quality center and get anything back, preferably a SG who can shoot. Then have Rubio, SG from pek trade, wiggins, Thompson, dieng. with Shabazz (who works hard, looked pretty decent when he did play, so he should at least be a solid player, Adelman didn’t give him many minutes) on the bench. Take a PG like payton or ennis 13th and use MLE on a solid third big man)That is a good young team who play defense and should be able to grow together and probably a year or 2 away from the playoffs and 2 to 4 years from being a contender with a championship potential roster depending on who the other parts are since what I said was kind of broad
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/11/2014 - 5:49am #917380
phila9012ParticipantI would probably do it if I was the timberwolves. Pek is worth more than eric Gordon. Also it wouldn’t make much sense to have EG waiters and martin, who are all SGs who can score. As a Twolves fan I would take Thompson to replace love, and the first pick for love or if the cavs included waiters hopefully the twolves would give up martin to the cavs. Then trade Pekovic because dieng is a starter quality center and get anything back, preferably a SG who can shoot. Then have Rubio, SG from pek trade, wiggins, Thompson, dieng. with Shabazz (who works hard, looked pretty decent when he did play, so he should at least be a solid player, Adelman didn’t give him many minutes) on the bench. Take a PG like payton or ennis 13th and use MLE on a solid third big man)That is a good young team who play defense and should be able to grow together and probably a year or 2 away from the playoffs and 2 to 4 years from being a contender with a championship potential roster depending on who the other parts are since what I said was kind of broad
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/11/2014 - 10:54am #917369
ZachAttackParticipantYes, but with the #1 pick they could get Embiid that would get them the center, then with the 13th pick, they could pick a 4, and the problem is solved.
0- Posted on: Wed, 06/11/2014 - 11:01pm #917615
phila9012Participantthey don’t need embiid, they have dieng, and no SF so wiggins would be the pick and then take hopefully stauskus or harris at 13. That would be an up and coming team and as a wolves fan I would prefer that to the current team whose peak is probably the 6th or 7th seed for 2 years unless they get a star wing player(someone who can create their own shot and score 20 to 23 ppg) like derozen which probably wont happen.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/11/2014 - 11:01pm #917746
phila9012Participantthey don’t need embiid, they have dieng, and no SF so wiggins would be the pick and then take hopefully stauskus or harris at 13. That would be an up and coming team and as a wolves fan I would prefer that to the current team whose peak is probably the 6th or 7th seed for 2 years unless they get a star wing player(someone who can create their own shot and score 20 to 23 ppg) like derozen which probably wont happen.
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- Posted on: Wed, 06/11/2014 - 10:54am #917501
ZachAttackParticipantYes, but with the #1 pick they could get Embiid that would get them the center, then with the 13th pick, they could pick a 4, and the problem is solved.
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- Posted on: Wed, 06/11/2014 - 6:10am #917257
tidhoParticipantWay too much for Cleveland to give up for a rental.
Also not sure why Minny would be trading both bigs, it leaves their roster very unbalanced.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/11/2014 - 6:10am #917388
tidhoParticipantWay too much for Cleveland to give up for a rental.
Also not sure why Minny would be trading both bigs, it leaves their roster very unbalanced.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 06/13/2014 - 9:55am #918627
jtthebrickParticipantWhen considering this sort of Trade, especially in Love’s situation where he only has 1 year left on his contract, you have to consider that the Wolves can extend-and-trade and add 3 more years of max money to the contract. Extend-and-trades are rare, but it makes sense in this case so that the team isn’t just renting him for a year. Obviously Love would have to sign off on any contract extension like that.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 06/13/2014 - 9:55am #918493
jtthebrickParticipantWhen considering this sort of Trade, especially in Love’s situation where he only has 1 year left on his contract, you have to consider that the Wolves can extend-and-trade and add 3 more years of max money to the contract. Extend-and-trades are rare, but it makes sense in this case so that the team isn’t just renting him for a year. Obviously Love would have to sign off on any contract extension like that.
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