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- Posted on: Tue, 06/01/2010 - 11:53am #16482
ZEOParticipantFrom your opinion not from scouts.com or rivals.com, who well become the best players to play in the NBA from the 2010 class of HS? Here my top ten.
1.Terrence Jones/Kentucky – Call me a idoit know but we’ll see in the future. He has a pretty jump shot for a Power Forward which can be useful in college and the NBA.
2.Enes Kanter/Kentucky – He can take it to the paint and can also take his oppent to the ark.
3.Harrison Barnes/North Carolina – Well do great under Roy Williams. And is skilled at many things.
4.Josh Selby/Kansas – Best denfender in HS and has amazing speed and great athleticism.
5.C.J. Leslie/NC State – His game is a copy of Kevin Garrnett’s.
6.Perry Jones/Baylor – He plays like a guard but has the body of a forward.
7.Brandon Knight/Kentucky – He is a pass first score later guard.
8.Ryan Harrow/NC State – Has the best cross-over in HS. Also has a bright basketball IQ.
9.Patric Young/Florida – A kid that is tough and we’ll play ever game like it’s his last.
10.Jared Sullinger/Ohio State – Has the body the of a NBA player.So what’s your’s?
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/01/2010 - 11:55am #324882
delfamParticipantWhat do you see in Selby, I just see another undersized PG in the mold of Ellis or Arenas. I actually see him as being the biggest bust of all the top players.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/01/2010 - 11:59am #324887
ZEOParticipantThe reason he so high is because he defends, players this days just care about scoring 50, his a player who cares abot getting 2.0 steals and maybe even 1.0 block a game.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/01/2010 - 12:01pm #324889
the I in winParticipantIf Harrison Barnes can get on a team where he is the second option he will be very good but if he is the first then he will struggle.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/01/2010 - 12:05pm #324891
MagikKnickParticipant1. Harrison Barnes
2. Kyrie Irving
3. Josh Selby
4. Jared Sullinger
5. Terrence Jones
6. Enes Kanter
7. Brandon Knight
8. CJ Leslie
9. Tobias Harris
10. Will Barton0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/01/2010 - 12:05pm #324892
StF616Participant1.Harrison Barnes – Great Wing player can play 2 or 3 could be a poor man’s kobe bryant
2.Perry Jones – If he reaches his potential he could be a kevin durant player, long wingspan,
athletic,good handles at worst, anthony randolph
3.Josh Selby – Can play the 1 or 2 great scorer, improving court vision, needs to improve decision making
4.Brandon Knight – Tall guard at 6’4 or 6’5 good court vision, Lightning quick, good handles and has range, needs to stop taking up too many threes
5.Jared Sullinger – Most NBA Ready, Wont be a star, but will produce
6.CJ Leslie – Most Athletic player in the draft, High Motor, Lethal in transition, tweener
7.Kyrie Irving – Good Decision Making, Smart Player, Good In Transition
8.Enes Kanter – Dominates the paint, good scoer and great rebounder
9.Terrence Jones – Great Court Vision, Good rebounder, good scorer, has range, could be a
Lamar Odom player and play point forward or could be dorrell wright
10.Cory Joseph – Best Guard defender, Good range, athletic0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/01/2010 - 12:05pm #324893
stanford hoopswow shelby bust?..have you watched him play other then the allstar games?..if you have then theres no way you can think bust. he’s in the mold of steve francis(who’s game he copies) after watching him ina couple games after i went back to maryland i was more then convinced that he is the truth. people think because he scores alot that he’s more of a sg but thats far from the case. he has very good court vision and handles, it just so happens that he can also score on anyone and he’s very tough(like al guards from Bmore) and he likes to lock down on defense.
With that said i say the best pro will be barnes ( he is just sooooo skilled) or tobias harris( whos only a step behind barnes as far as most skilled)
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/01/2010 - 12:09pm #324895
Mavs41ParticipantI truely think that Irving is the best out of all of them
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/01/2010 - 12:11pm #324894
morgatilParticipantI am a UK fan, but from everything I have seen and read, Knight is not a pass first guy. He is more of a less selfish Monte Ellis type, but maybe Cal will turn him into an assist machine.
Also, Kanter should end up #1. He killed at the Hoops Summit and he has played against pros in Europe. He has a mature game for his age and his body is already of a pro. Sullinger said he was the strongest player he has ever played against.
I love Jones’ and Barnes’ upside, but Kanter will be the most pro ready of anyone in this class.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/01/2010 - 12:11pm #324897
stanford hoopsdont like the perry jones/kevein durant comparisons at all because there games are wayyyyy different. durant is a much much better shooter( was a better shooter in hs) better ball handler and he goes harder. perry is more like lamar odom with his skill and how he just coast most times during games. most people are just blinded by how good of a athlete he is ala jordan from the clippers but he doesnt seem to have that go hard in him. He does have the most potential because of his skill set but how often does a guy who coast and doesnt go hard ever reach that potential?
I think alot of people on here haev not seen tobias harris which is why hes not on some people’s list but anyone whos seen him play knows this kid is the truth 6’8-6’9 can play 3,4,5 has nba range, goes hard, athletic. had a couple of triple doubles in highschool, and know as a hard worker while being extremely skilled
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/01/2010 - 12:13pm #324900
MagikKnickParticipantYeah, I like Irving better than both Knight and Selby also…
And yeah, from the limited Brandon Knight that I have seen, he definitely seems like a scoring point guard, but you never know….his role on his HS team was to score, maybe once surrounded with better teammates at UK we’ll see something different
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/01/2010 - 12:14pm #324901
morgatilParticipantYeah, I also think Harris is right behind Kanter, Barnes and Jones. He isn’t flashy, but he fills the box score. He is gonna be one of those guys that will lead the Vols to many wins, but you will see the box score and say, “He did all that?” Him and Hopson should be a fun high flying act to watch next year.
The SEC is back.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/01/2010 - 12:14pm #324902
stanford hoopsdid you watch knight on his aau team the past couple of years?..scored while passing and getting double figure assist. hes become more of a scorer because he has to be on his hs team just like ed cota( was putting up damn near 30 a game in hs because he had to). knight can score or pass depending on what his team needs. hes not john wall but hes a much better set up man/passer then bledsoe was
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/01/2010 - 12:16pm #324903
stanford hoopsyeah harris is better and much more skilled then jones. i dont think katner can really be on the list since all we hacve seen is one game of him. if im not mistaken casy jacobson scored abotu 30 in the world games and wayne ellington so imma wait to see more then one game before i say what he might be in the nba. i think he will be a pretty good college player though
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/01/2010 - 12:19pm #324906
HaleParticipantDoes anyone else think Brandon Knight is extremely overrated? He is ranked so high and was supposed to be the next beast guard, but I would take tons of people in the class over him. He doesn’t look like he will be all that great to me.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/01/2010 - 12:21pm #324910
morgatilParticipantI think one game was enough with those numbers. He just did there what he was doing in Europe.
He was named the Most Valuable Player in the 2009 FIBA Europe Under-18 Championship, averaging 18.6 points and 16.4 rebounds while leading Turkey to the bronze medal.
Pro summit was no fluke.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/01/2010 - 12:22pm #324911
stanford hoopsis this based off of knights mcdonalds and world performance?..i think most people are basing it off of those and if i hadnt watched him during aau then id agree but this kid is forreal!!! i just hope people dont get all hyped on the allstar games because it is ….allstar games. ala derrick favors. its alot different when the offense runs through you and youre not sharing a bunch of minutes and you have the dribble drive offense
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/01/2010 - 12:24pm #324913
stanford hoopsnot saying it was a fluke but there have been other euros who played very well in the 18 and under and the worlds. not sure if you seen the 18 and under games but the talent level isnt close to high level college basketball
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/01/2010 - 12:26pm #324914
HaleParticipantI’ll take your word for it then. At least until I see him play next year, I’m sure you have watched a bit more of him then me so far.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/01/2010 - 12:26pm #324915
ZEOParticipantWith the Wildcats he has to the weapons to be a great passer also Calipari can always transform his PG into passer’s. I watch John Wall all the time in HS and trust me that dude never passed lol. But with Kentucky he avg. 6.5 assist and that is a crazy change. Same thing with Brandon Knight.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/01/2010 - 12:29pm #324917
yashParticipantHarrison Barnes may not become an all-star at the NBA level but the kid looks like an absolute piece of work in that he’ll have a real good NBA career.
One of my top 5 is DeShun Thomas. I love what I’ve seen of this kid on YouTube (yes I’m admitting that I’m going off YouTube clips) but he has a nice release and based on those vids can hit from the perimeter.
Perry Jones can bring back that tall/big shooting guard/small forward (see: Bender, Jonathan, McGrady, Tracy) back to the league. Kid was the DeMar DeRozan of the summer two years ago – aka the kid that jumps up the rankings after AAU play.
I hope JT Terrell gets a good two years under him and then takes his game to the NBA.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/01/2010 - 12:30pm #324918
JNixonParticipant1. Harrison Barnes
2. Kyrie Irving
3. Perry Jones
4. Josh Selby
5. Brandon Knight
6. Fab Melo
7. Enes Kanter
8. Tobias Harris
9. Terrence Jones
10. Jared Sullinger0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/01/2010 - 12:30pm #324919
morgatilParticipantalso, based on body language and what I have seen in game…. perry jones is more mcgrady than durant.
durant seems to be in KILL mode all the time. Mcgrady was notorious for taking plays off. Even taking games off.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/01/2010 - 12:32pm #324921
kobyzParticipantRyan Harrow is a copy of Rajon Rondo
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/01/2010 - 12:39pm #324926
arc1212Participantexcept ryan will light your ass up with his jumper and killer crossover…his offense is better than rondo’s at this point
i’m so impressed with the first list…ryan doesn’t get the credit he deserves0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/01/2010 - 12:40pm #324928
JNixonParticipantRyan Harrow is not the playmaker/pure PG that Rondo is. Also is a bad defender. Ryan Harrow is more Jeff Teague-like than he is Rondo.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/01/2010 - 12:49pm #324932
StF616ParticipantKnight is in now way a pass first, maybe he will be , but right now, he just keeps chuckin up 3’s
I used kevin durant because they’re both lang, has good handles, shooting guards in a power forwards body and i’m saying that will be his BEST CASE i dont think he will get that though,
Perry Jones to t-mac is pretty accurate too0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/01/2010 - 12:51pm #324934
JNixonParticipantPerry Jones=Rudy Gay
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/01/2010 - 12:57pm #324942
dolla130Participant1. Perry Jones – has the most potential out of the class and will be a poor mans durant he just has to be more agressive he has the mindset of a vince carter
2. Harrison barnes- i dont see the kobe comparison at all i see him more as a joe johnson good at almost everything and great at nothing
3. kyrie irving – can be a Chris paul type
4. Josh Selby – Baron davis watched him play enough to know that he is not overrated and will be a good PG in the NBA
5. Brandon Knight – cant really compare him but if i was 2 i would have to say a slender D.Will can score with any guard in the class and in a very underrated passer i have watched like 6 games from him and enough film to know he is a really good passer and that pine crest team besides him had no other player even being recruited and i think he led them to chips twice
6. Fab Melo i think he is overrated
7. Enes Kanter – reminds me of kevin love
8. Tobias Harris – poor mans carmelo anthony
9. Terrence Jones – left handed brandon roy
10. Jared Sullinger – dont like him to much thinks he is overrated and he will be like luke harongody to me0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/01/2010 - 1:04pm #324958
Mr.Knick 32ParticipantI stopped reading after this first one didn’t have Kryie Irving in it.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/01/2010 - 1:25pm #324984
JNixonParticipantLOL, I didn’t notice that.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/01/2010 - 1:46pm #324998
OhCanada-ParticipantCorey Joseph is the truth at point
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/01/2010 - 2:14pm #325012
ReezyFbabyParticipant1. Kyrie Irving- Chauncey Billups Type player (not as aggresive) makes great Desicions and excellent in transition. makes players better around him and Coach K is gonna make him another Jay Williams type of player through his system.
2. Brandon Knight- Can score in big numbers with lots of range. doesnt have a great shot selection but will make you pay if not double teamed. playing next to Enes Kanter should make him get more shots up playing in the Kentucky system.
3. Perry Jones- A 7’0 Tracy Mcgrady (not as quick) has the most potential since Kwame Brown, been hyped up as a kid and has to live up to his abillity. shows flashes of NBA highlights but doesnt show a killer Instinct. needs a year or 2 in the Big12.
4. CJ Leslie- Identical twin to Kevin Garnetts game, shows emotion after every Dunk (feeds off Crowd) and protects the paint. will most likely be a second option in the NBA.
5. Ryan Harrow- Most underrated point guard in High School. Best handles since Tim Hardaway and Steve Francis (Hot Sauce Dribbling Coach is his Trainer). skinny body but breaks down anybody who dares to stay in front of him, shows great vision on the break and will be a dangerous point guard playing along side CJ Leslie
6. Enes Kanter- Takes up alot of space in the paint, Great Offensive Scorer never backs down. Will be a solid Role player in the NBA.
7. Josh Shelby- Have the most opportunity to shine at Kansas, Best Defender in his class and can put up 40 on anyone when hot.
8. Harrison- Great all around game. makes few mistakes and is a student of the game. Refuses to lose and is a very intellegent man. Will have a great future in the NBA but not a star. Reminds me of a Luol Deng.
9. Terrance Jones- Big boy who continues to grow, Runs the floor very rare often out running wings, is a 20-10 guy in the League and will be lethal at Kentucky next year.
10. Jared Sullinger- Daddies little boy who owns Ohio basketball. Bitches around kids in high school but wont at Ohio State, Undersized Center at 6’8. Will be a Role Player in College
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/01/2010 - 2:31pm #325018
kanebangerParticipanthow can you compare someone in high school to an nba all star? doesnt make sense
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/01/2010 - 2:51pm #325032
ChosenOne2010ParticipantBrandon Knight will be the best out of them just give him some time. He had to score in high school because his team sucked. I watched his team on ESPN 2 one day vs. Austin Rivers team and he had to carry the team the whole game or else they would of been blown out.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/01/2010 - 3:27pm #325055
IknoBall12Participanti see a few people are saying tobias harris and it makes me pretty glad. im wondering if alot of people have seen him play. that kid has skills. he didnt play in the all star games on tv because of injury but he is 1 of the best players in the class.
Also i kinda agree about josh selby being a bit of a bust. I mean yea hes good and he looks great against his high school mates but i do see him as a tweener monta ellis type. I dont think he will be a solid point in the league honestly.
Perry Jones HAS a lot of potential but all the Tracy mcGrady kevin durant comparisons…..i jus dont kno about those. Ive said it before he at times looked lost in those all star games and didnt seem interested or as aggressive as any of his teammates.
Kyrie and Harrison barnes i think will be the best in the class. Sullinger will also be a star0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/01/2010 - 10:56pm #325265
lalailaParticipant1.Harrison- seems like we have another freshman phenom.
2.P.Jones- if Durant had Dirk/T-mac comparison so how about “KG meets T-Mac” for Perry..offcourse if he will reach his ceiling but there is SO big IF.
3.B.Knight-people keep saying his is overrated, so i like to say he is underrated now. 2-time POY gets now love from you..those tittles weren’t for nothing, i see second coming of Arenas maybe not 29ppg scorer but looks like way more mature.
4.J.Selby-scoring machine,physical,athetic l& like AND1 player love to see him play..he is probably even better passing pg than Knight just not that type of team’s leader to be full time PG but i don’t see a big problem here especially when he is so good defender too
5.J.Sullinger-in those 3 big events impressed probably even more than Harrison.
6.K.Irving
7.C.J.Leslie-freak athlete, maybe worse shooter more dribbling Wesley Johnson?
8.E.Kanter
9.T.Jones
10.J.Smith0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/01/2010 - 11:32pm #325271
midwestbbscoutParticipantreally to me the best player in this class is clearly Sullinger…..I have seen him play in person and on tv a million times and he has never had a bad game ever…..the comparisons to harangody are proposterous….
Brandon Knight is the truth….dont be fooled by his McDonalds performance he balls….
and most off this is a super weak HS class…..2011 is where its at…..Knight and Sullinger are awesome but there are probably ten guys from 2011 that are better than both of them…..
Perry Jones and Will Barton have star potential if they want to be…..
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/02/2010 - 12:26am #325281
lalailaParticipantagree with almost everything MWBS. Just don’t know if there really are 10 guys from 2011 better than Perry and Sully lol
and the funniest thing is that no matter this class is weak next year there could be the record of the most freshmen in the lottery…almost no one come back to school this year0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/02/2010 - 12:33am #325283
midwestbbscoutParticipantyeah probably not Sully….I used to be kind of meh on him because he isn’t an elite physical speciman but dude is a straight beast plain and simple…..he reminds me of Charles Barkley except he is like 5 inches taller….
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/02/2010 - 12:35am #325284
Leftovers16Participantwait and see what they can do at the college level if anything first, i mean high schoo, how many 7 footers live with walking distance of each other? if a school get one they gonna be dominating for the 4 years he is in school but he could go to college and become a english major for all we know
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/02/2010 - 12:45am #325286
midwestbbscoutParticipantbecause high school scouting has become more of an exact science because of how big AAU is…..u are right not many seven footers live within miles of each other but they do go head to head EVERY summer multiple times….case in point, tell me if u can tell me what my top five 2009 HS seniors have in common….
1. Demarcus Cousins
2. Xavier Henry
3. John Wall
4. Derrick Favors
5. Lance Stephenson0 - AuthorPosts
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