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  • #31605
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    ag-pennypacker
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    If you were starting a franchise these would be the top 10 power forwards I would take.  Youth is obviously a big factor here.  Who would you guys pick?

    1.  Blake Griffin

    2.  Al Horford – I consider him more of a PF than a C even though that is what he plays in ATL

    3.  Kevin Love

    4. LaMarcus Aldridge

    5. Amare Stoudamire

    6.  Josh Smith

    7.  Al Jefferson

    8.  Pau Gasol

    9.  Zach Randolph

    10.  Serge Ibaka

     

    I don’t know if DeMarcus Cousins or Greg Monroe would be considered centers or power forwards but I am putting them down as a centers.  I didn’t put Derrick Williams in the top 10 but he could easily warrant it.

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  • #566302
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    I like the list, but I would put Aldridge #2.  Dude is talented and young and he was the star of a playoff team.

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  • #566403
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    mwalling2117
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    I like the list, but I would put Aldridge #2.  Dude is talented and young and he was the star of a playoff team.

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  • #566311
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    JoeWolf1

     I agree with mwalling2117, I’d also put Aldridge at 2. 

    I think Ed Davis should get honorable mention, I think that guy is going to make quite a jump next season.  He’s not the most polished guy on offense, but I think he’ll be a double double player if not by next year at age 23 then this 3rd in which he’ll finish at 24.

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    • #566323
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      ag-pennypacker
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      I can see where you guys are coming from on Aldridge.  I agree he should probably be ahead of Love but him and Horford I would put as almost equal.  New List

       

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    • #566426
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      ag-pennypacker
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      I can see where you guys are coming from on Aldridge.  I agree he should probably be ahead of Love but him and Horford I would put as almost equal.  New List

       

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  • #566413
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    JoeWolf1

     I agree with mwalling2117, I’d also put Aldridge at 2. 

    I think Ed Davis should get honorable mention, I think that guy is going to make quite a jump next season.  He’s not the most polished guy on offense, but I think he’ll be a double double player if not by next year at age 23 then this 3rd in which he’ll finish at 24.

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  • #566348
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    kanyedabest
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    horford number 2? no thanks….id have love as my number 2, he is only 22 yrs old, coming off a fabulous season and is still even 3 years younger then lamarcus aldridge.. i would actually bump horford down to 5 or 6, im not a big fan of his game, he doesnt provide much offensively

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  • #566449
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    horford number 2? no thanks….id have love as my number 2, he is only 22 yrs old, coming off a fabulous season and is still even 3 years younger then lamarcus aldridge.. i would actually bump horford down to 5 or 6, im not a big fan of his game, he doesnt provide much offensively

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  • #566354
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    1. B.Griffin – No words needed 

    2. L.Aldridge – They had to reward him with an All NBA selection because KLove took his spot because of better marketing

    3. A.Stoundemire – beast/ but terrible defender

    4. C.Bosh – He’s still really good people have to criticize him because they just hate Lebron and anyone associated with him. How many 3rd options on a team average near 20 and 10?

    5. K.Love – His team is trash, Aldridge should have made the allstar game over him, but he can grab the shit out of a rebound, he’s a terrible defender

    6. Al.Horford – He needs to score more

    7. J.Smith – He’s so talented he’s just confused on how to use it

    8. Al.Jefferson – Has 100 moves in the post

    9. P.Gasol – He’s definently better than majority of the people on this list but he is 31

    10. D.Nowitski – Hes getting older and better than everyone on the list so I couldnt leave him off

    Honorable mention: Boozer (Idk if it was his injury or what but he sucked this year in the playoffs) , Z.Randolph, S.Ibaka

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  • #566455
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    1. B.Griffin – No words needed 

    2. L.Aldridge – They had to reward him with an All NBA selection because KLove took his spot because of better marketing

    3. A.Stoundemire – beast/ but terrible defender

    4. C.Bosh – He’s still really good people have to criticize him because they just hate Lebron and anyone associated with him. How many 3rd options on a team average near 20 and 10?

    5. K.Love – His team is trash, Aldridge should have made the allstar game over him, but he can grab the shit out of a rebound, he’s a terrible defender

    6. Al.Horford – He needs to score more

    7. J.Smith – He’s so talented he’s just confused on how to use it

    8. Al.Jefferson – Has 100 moves in the post

    9. P.Gasol – He’s definently better than majority of the people on this list but he is 31

    10. D.Nowitski – Hes getting older and better than everyone on the list so I couldnt leave him off

    Honorable mention: Boozer (Idk if it was his injury or what but he sucked this year in the playoffs) , Z.Randolph, S.Ibaka

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  • #566364
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    andxxx
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    Where’s Chris Bosh before this past year he was a consensus top 5 PF and most ppl felt he was better than Amare and he’s only 27.  He was arguably the most consistent player for the Heat in the finals and the Bulls series I think he should get top 10. 

    1. Dirk Nowitzki

    2. Blake Griffin

    3. Lamarcus Aldridge

    4. Kevin Love

    5. Pau Gasol

    6. Chris Bosh

    7. Amare Stoudemire

    8. Zach Randolph

    9. Al Horford

    10. Serge Ibaka

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  • #566465
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    andxxx
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    Where’s Chris Bosh before this past year he was a consensus top 5 PF and most ppl felt he was better than Amare and he’s only 27.  He was arguably the most consistent player for the Heat in the finals and the Bulls series I think he should get top 10. 

    1. Dirk Nowitzki

    2. Blake Griffin

    3. Lamarcus Aldridge

    4. Kevin Love

    5. Pau Gasol

    6. Chris Bosh

    7. Amare Stoudemire

    8. Zach Randolph

    9. Al Horford

    10. Serge Ibaka

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  • #566422
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    1. Blake Griffin

    2. Dirk Nowitzki

    3. Lamarcus Aldridge

    4. Kevin Love

    5. Amare Stoudemire

    6. Pau Gasol

    7. Zach Randolph

    8. Al Horford

    9. Chris Bosh

    10. Tim Duncan

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  • #566524
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    clippz4life
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    1. Blake Griffin

    2. Dirk Nowitzki

    3. Lamarcus Aldridge

    4. Kevin Love

    5. Amare Stoudemire

    6. Pau Gasol

    7. Zach Randolph

    8. Al Horford

    9. Chris Bosh

    10. Tim Duncan

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  • #566423
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    WizardofOz
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    Many will kill me for saying this, but I think Andray Blatche can become a franchise PF. I think he has the best combination of size, handles, jumpshot, passing, and post moves out of any big man in the NBA.

    He was out of shape last season after recovering from a broken foot, and he played injured a lot too. But when he’s in shape, he’s probably the most complete big man and is very talented.

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  • #566526
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    WizardofOz
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    Many will kill me for saying this, but I think Andray Blatche can become a franchise PF. I think he has the best combination of size, handles, jumpshot, passing, and post moves out of any big man in the NBA.

    He was out of shape last season after recovering from a broken foot, and he played injured a lot too. But when he’s in shape, he’s probably the most complete big man and is very talented.

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  • #566538
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    JoeWolf1

     Paul "Reggie Miller" Millsap is another young and talented power foward.  No, I don’t think he’s a franchise power forward, but then again I don’t think Serge Ibaka and a lot of these other guys are either.

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  • #566435
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    JoeWolf1

     Paul "Reggie Miller" Millsap is another young and talented power foward.  No, I don’t think he’s a franchise power forward, but then again I don’t think Serge Ibaka and a lot of these other guys are either.

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  • #566549
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    aamir543
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    Nice list except your 2-5. I would take Aldrige, then Love, then Stoudamire, then Horford.

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  • #566448
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    aamir543
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    Nice list except your 2-5. I would take Aldrige, then Love, then Stoudamire, then Horford.

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  • #566591
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    andxxx
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     Andray Blatche is an idiot I’ve watched him enough to know he doesn’t have the mental capacity to become a franchise player

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  • #566489
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    andxxx
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     Andray Blatche is an idiot I’ve watched him enough to know he doesn’t have the mental capacity to become a franchise player

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  • #566601
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    aamir543
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    I love how Bosh’s name wasn’t even mentioned untill the 5th post.

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  • #566499
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    aamir543
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    I love how Bosh’s name wasn’t even mentioned untill the 5th post.

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  • #566613
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    iguapops420
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     1.Blake

     2.Dirk

     3.L.A.

     4.Love

     5.Bosh

     6.Amare

     7.Horford

     8.Z-Bo

     9.Gasol

    10.Ibaka

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  • #566511
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    iguapops420
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     1.Blake

     2.Dirk

     3.L.A.

     4.Love

     5.Bosh

     6.Amare

     7.Horford

     8.Z-Bo

     9.Gasol

    10.Ibaka

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  • #566529
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    Chilbert arenas
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    Bosh ahead of Amare? Really??? Why? Amare isn’t the best rebounder or defender but neither is Bosh. 

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  • #566631
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    Chilbert arenas
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    Bosh ahead of Amare? Really??? Why? Amare isn’t the best rebounder or defender but neither is Bosh. 

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  • #566537
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    iguapops420
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     ^^^Bosh at least sticks to what he’s good at. And pound for pound vert for vert, I think Bosh is the better rebounder/defender of the 2. Bosh actually proved me wrong this year on his overall team D. Even though I do think he’s the biggest pusscake in the L. And even though he was 3rd wheel, he’s been to the finals and actually wasn’t terrible. Amare just isn’t the same guy he once was. And to be honest, I had a lot of trouble not putting Z-Bo higher than both of these guys. If it wasn’t for the fact I feel he can go back to the troubled selfish Zach at any moment, he’d have been top 5.

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  • #566639
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    iguapops420
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     ^^^Bosh at least sticks to what he’s good at. And pound for pound vert for vert, I think Bosh is the better rebounder/defender of the 2. Bosh actually proved me wrong this year on his overall team D. Even though I do think he’s the biggest pusscake in the L. And even though he was 3rd wheel, he’s been to the finals and actually wasn’t terrible. Amare just isn’t the same guy he once was. And to be honest, I had a lot of trouble not putting Z-Bo higher than both of these guys. If it wasn’t for the fact I feel he can go back to the troubled selfish Zach at any moment, he’d have been top 5.

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  • #566548
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    aamir543
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    Ok, but Bosh got 24 as the focal point of the offense in Toronto. Amare got 26 in Phionex, albiet with the league’ highest scoring offense, but still, nash got 18, Marion 20 and about half a dozen others got double figures.

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  • #566649
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    Ok, but Bosh got 24 as the focal point of the offense in Toronto. Amare got 26 in Phionex, albiet with the league’ highest scoring offense, but still, nash got 18, Marion 20 and about half a dozen others got double figures.

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  • #566550
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    Bmore_DC
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     im sorry but Ibaka is not better than Josh Smith i dont care what anybody says…

    put Josh Smith on the Thunder….

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  • #566651
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    Bmore_DC
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     im sorry but Ibaka is not better than Josh Smith i dont care what anybody says…

    put Josh Smith on the Thunder….

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  • #566558
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    WizardofOz
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    People negging me but don’t have anything to back it up lmao. Some people just haters. I’m okay with soemone negging someone for a good reason, but no one said why I was wrong. If you think I’m so wrong, prove me wrong then. I’m just going by what I see, and I think he has a lot of talent.

    I’ve 80% of you guys didn’t see him play all year.

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  • #566659
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    WizardofOz
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    People negging me but don’t have anything to back it up lmao. Some people just haters. I’m okay with soemone negging someone for a good reason, but no one said why I was wrong. If you think I’m so wrong, prove me wrong then. I’m just going by what I see, and I think he has a lot of talent.

    I’ve 80% of you guys didn’t see him play all year.

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  • #566564
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    I know you’re a die hard Wizards fan, but come on now lol…
     
    I don’t know why Dirk, Pau and Timmy are on anybody’s lists… They’re all north of 30 years old. You’re not starting a franchise with them at this point. And nobody is starting a franchise with Stoudemire with all of the knee and eye surgeries he’s had…
     
    And I understand Love had a great season… However, he’s the third or fourth best player on a championship team. He’s a little overrated. He’s not somebody you start a franchise with.
     
    People also need to cut Bosh some slack. He played his role and bought into the team concept. Had he not been on the same team as LeBron and Wade, he’d have averaged 20+ and 10+ rebounds easily. And he’s shown he can at least lead a team to the playoffs as it’s top option. Even though his numbers took a dip, I thought he made improvements as a defender in the Heat system. He’ll never be a tough guy, back to the basket scorer or paint protector, but he’s super talented.
     
    Other than Griffin (who’s a below average defender at this point), there isn’t another power forward I’d start my franchise with right now… However if I had no choice, I’d go with:
     
    1. Griffin (though he isn’t better than Bosh/Aldridge right now, I’d still take him first because he projects to be very soon)
     
    2. Bosh
     
    3. Aldridge
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  • #566665
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    I know you’re a die hard Wizards fan, but come on now lol…
     
    I don’t know why Dirk, Pau and Timmy are on anybody’s lists… They’re all north of 30 years old. You’re not starting a franchise with them at this point. And nobody is starting a franchise with Stoudemire with all of the knee and eye surgeries he’s had…
     
    And I understand Love had a great season… However, he’s the third or fourth best player on a championship team. He’s a little overrated. He’s not somebody you start a franchise with.
     
    People also need to cut Bosh some slack. He played his role and bought into the team concept. Had he not been on the same team as LeBron and Wade, he’d have averaged 20+ and 10+ rebounds easily. And he’s shown he can at least lead a team to the playoffs as it’s top option. Even though his numbers took a dip, I thought he made improvements as a defender in the Heat system. He’ll never be a tough guy, back to the basket scorer or paint protector, but he’s super talented.
     
    Other than Griffin (who’s a below average defender at this point), there isn’t another power forward I’d start my franchise with right now… However if I had no choice, I’d go with:
     
    1. Griffin (though he isn’t better than Bosh/Aldridge right now, I’d still take him first because he projects to be very soon)
     
    2. Bosh
     
    3. Aldridge
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  • #566576
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    Bmore_DC
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     id flip-flop bosh and aldridge but yea ur on point homie!

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  • #566677
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    Bmore_DC
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     id flip-flop bosh and aldridge but yea ur on point homie!

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  • #566588
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    iceman21
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     David Lee should be mentioned somewhere………………….

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  • #566689
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    iceman21
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     David Lee should be mentioned somewhere………………….

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  • #566592
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    IndianaBasketball
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    I don’t think Aldridge is better than Bosh just yet. I mean, Aldridge just decided to really show up and start playing like he was capable of last season.

    I want to see Aldridge have an entire season like he did the second half of last season. IF he does that, then I’ll feel comfortable putting him ahead of Bosh.

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  • #566693
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    I don’t think Aldridge is better than Bosh just yet. I mean, Aldridge just decided to really show up and start playing like he was capable of last season.

    I want to see Aldridge have an entire season like he did the second half of last season. IF he does that, then I’ll feel comfortable putting him ahead of Bosh.

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  • #566604
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     i dont think LA is better than Bosh RIGHT NOW either…im just going off your argument about picking Griffin over all the others…

    LA is younger than bosh and has  more upside…if u had to start a team, would u really pick bosh over him?

    but i see your point and value your opinion…keep it up boy

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  • #566705
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     i dont think LA is better than Bosh RIGHT NOW either…im just going off your argument about picking Griffin over all the others…

    LA is younger than bosh and has  more upside…if u had to start a team, would u really pick bosh over him?

    but i see your point and value your opinion…keep it up boy

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  • #566656
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    @ aamir, what was your point with bosh at 24 and amare at 26? numbers don’t always tell everything. besides, how man times has amare ever put up 12 rbs per? If we’re talking Bosh vs. Amare in their primes, yeah i’ll take Amare but we’re talking now. 

    @ IndianaBasketball, I put Dirk and co on this list because it’s not about starting a franchise, it’s about who are the top 10 best franchise bigs atm and those older guys are still franchise level bigs. Would you not put Kobe on your list of sg’s or Nash on your list of pgs? 

    @Bmore_DC, I agree about J-Smooth being better than Ibaka, but Ibaka is younger with higher upside atm. Plus Josh played the 3 this year as a starter so I couldn’t very well have Horford and Smith both on the list. 

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  • #566757
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    @ aamir, what was your point with bosh at 24 and amare at 26? numbers don’t always tell everything. besides, how man times has amare ever put up 12 rbs per? If we’re talking Bosh vs. Amare in their primes, yeah i’ll take Amare but we’re talking now. 

    @ IndianaBasketball, I put Dirk and co on this list because it’s not about starting a franchise, it’s about who are the top 10 best franchise bigs atm and those older guys are still franchise level bigs. Would you not put Kobe on your list of sg’s or Nash on your list of pgs? 

    @Bmore_DC, I agree about J-Smooth being better than Ibaka, but Ibaka is younger with higher upside atm. Plus Josh played the 3 this year as a starter so I couldn’t very well have Horford and Smith both on the list. 

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  • #566837
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    TRC1991
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    lmao at andray blatche…i could sleep well at night if he were kicked out of the NBA

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  • #566736
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    TRC1991
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    lmao at andray blatche…i could sleep well at night if he were kicked out of the NBA

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  • #566843
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    Platypus
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    Bargnani???

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  • #566742
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    Platypus
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    Bargnani???

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  • #566869
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    JJeff6
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    Now I know he is not a franchise guy by any means at all, but I think Luis Scola would be a great compliment play to a franchise player and possibly another star.  Hes a guy who can do the dirty work and rebound and give you an occasional beast of a game, as hes scored 40+ on more than one occasion.  Like I said hes not a franchise player, but an underrated one.

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  • #566768
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    Now I know he is not a franchise guy by any means at all, but I think Luis Scola would be a great compliment play to a franchise player and possibly another star.  Hes a guy who can do the dirty work and rebound and give you an occasional beast of a game, as hes scored 40+ on more than one occasion.  Like I said hes not a franchise player, but an underrated one.

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  • #567046
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    aamir543
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    Wiz of Oz is right, those Blatche videos definitely do not warrent 11 negs, or any for that matter. All he was saying was that if the guy gets his act together, he could be a premier player. If he got in shape, got better shot selection, and became more coachable, I see no reason why that wouldn’t lead to a 22 and 9 season. By being more coachable, he would get let’s say 5 more minutes, and by improving, getting in shape, and ect. He has a lot of promise, but it reamains to be seen whether that can translate into production.

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  • #566943
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    aamir543
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    Wiz of Oz is right, those Blatche videos definitely do not warrent 11 negs, or any for that matter. All he was saying was that if the guy gets his act together, he could be a premier player. If he got in shape, got better shot selection, and became more coachable, I see no reason why that wouldn’t lead to a 22 and 9 season. By being more coachable, he would get let’s say 5 more minutes, and by improving, getting in shape, and ect. He has a lot of promise, but it reamains to be seen whether that can translate into production.

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