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Todays Superstars - Yesterdays Superstars

Just bored so lets do a little comparison.. Pick a great player from the past and pick his best couterpart to todays game..

A few of mine..

Kevin Durant - Larry Bird
Lebron James - Magic Johnson
Dwight Howard - David Robinson
Kobe Bryant - Michael Jordan
Blake Griffin - Karl Malone
Dwyane Wade - Oscar Robinson
Tim Duncan - Hakeem Olajauan

How about more??


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I don't agree with the

I don't agree with the KD-Bird comparison; sure they are both great shooters, but that's about where the comparison ends. Bird was an excellent passer from day 1 and a great team defender, KD lacks those two attributes at this stage, and while his D might improve, hard to see his passing coming close to Bird's.

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Yeah, Bird was a lot more

Yeah, Bird was a lot more talented and far tougher than Durant. Dwight has a lot more true center to his game whereas the Admira did a lot of jumpshooting and turnaround jumpers. Other than those 2 comparisons, the rest are all pretty damn good.

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Dunno about great players, but....

Dale Ellis: Martell Webster

Bill Laimbeer: Brad Miller

Charles Oakley: Kurt Thomas

Xavier McDaniel: Ron Artest

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KD Bird

I agree KD was never the passer bird was, but bird wasnt a good one on one defender or team a great team defender. KD - does guard his man 2 - 4 day in and out. Bird had McKhale to Cover the best Forward at all times plus the Chief and D.J. D.J. Was one of the Best Guard Defenders guard 1 - 3 and the Chief was a rim protector. McKhale was and excellent 1 on 1 defender so Bird had a lil more help. If K.D. Played with Defenders that could he would be just as good as bird as a team defender and a better str8 up defender. As much as I like Bird I cant give him more credit as far as defending goes. I Agree with everything else.

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Robinson was very athletic

Robinson was very athletic and skilled. Much more skilled than Howard....but Howard is an athletic freak and he out-athleticizes his opponents, just like LBJ does. They dominate more with athleticism. Robinson dominated with a combination of athleticism and skill.

Kobe was just as unstoppable as MJ and probably was the more naturally skilled. What separates the two IMO is Jordan had a better mid-range game and higher BBIQ....and this couldve all been because he had a better development by playing in college for 3 years.

Hakeem and Timmy....Tim was such a good all around player, really good at everything and just had a great strong post game...Hakeem much more of a dynamo at scoring and defense. Hakeem was an elite athlete....a pure freak with the foot coordination of a guard. Tim Duncan reminds me more of Brad Daugherty.

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Vinnie "the Microwave"

Vinnie "the Microwave" Johnson/Ben Gordon: to me, these guys eerily resemble especially both being Pistons. Both powerfully built athletic guards who could come off the bench and get uncontrollably hot.

Cliff "Uncle Cliffy" Robinson/Carmelo Anthony: Their games remind me of each other except inverted...Cliffy although 6'11" preferred the perimeter while Melo posts up a lot more.

Kevin Willis/Dwight Howard: Howard is an updated version of Kevin Willis...both athletic freaks and tremendous rebounders. Howard more dominant on D, Willis had good jumpshot.

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The Kevin Durant Bird thing

The Kevin Durant Bird thing doesnt work. Larry Bird along with MJ, Magic they were the WTF! kind of player did everything and just make you say "WTF what planet is this dude from" Kevin Durant doesn't have that for me. He might develop more into it but not yet. Kobe Bryant has that WTF kinda game he might not have changed the game like jordan and bird and whatnot. For me these are close comaprisons;

Blake Griffin=Shawn Kemp & Karl Malone- He disrespects your air space like Kemp did by dunking on you no matter where you are. Has the Power and Skill of a Malone.

Lebron James=Scottie Pippen & Magic Johnson- There are aspects of both there game that is in Lebron.

Dwight Howard=Wilt Chamberland & Dikembe- Defensive ability like Dikembe and just the raw abusive power over opponents that Wilt had. Wilt was more skilled but Dwight will get there.

Chris Paul=Isiah Thomas- They just remind me of eachoher too much.

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I love this quote about Blake

I love this quote about Blake Griffin because it is soooo sooooooo true.

"He disrespects your air space. . ."

I love that!!

Also, Durant is the closest thing to Bird we have today.. I mean as far as stats go, maybe Lebron or someone because the was 20, 10, and like 5 as a rookie... There is nobody around like him.. As a skill set, Durant is very close.. Bird was a better passer and had a legendary coach along with a great team.. Durant hasnt had that...

Ehh.. I guess i get negged for the 1 bad one and nothing for the 7 good ones...

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Kd- Bird

Kd has a nice shot like bird but unnlike bird he is way quicker more of a guard better handle and unstoppable offensively.I believe bird gets credit as better passer because the way the game was played back then the man to man defenses vs. zone. If it was still man to man defenses who would guard durant. Hes a 22 yr old 2 time nba leading scorer as great as bird was durant is the next generations transcendant talent. While evryone is celebrating lebron they are failing to realize that he this eras dr j while durant is the skilled and still athletic forward.

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Dwyane wade - Oscar = Ew

Dwyane wade - Oscar = Ew

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Kevin Durant is the new

Kevin Durant is the new George Gervin but his upside is a 6'9 Michael Jordan. The scoring skills and shooting touch is there (KD is a better pure shooter though) and KD can get to the rim and finish in traffic. He can also rebound some and block some shots. A very good athlete with incredible length.

Dirk is more like Larry Bird with Bird being a better ball handler and passer with Dirk being a better shot blocker. Both could shoot and score. Both were clutch and had 3 point range. Both Bird and Dirk also got their fair share of rebounds. Bird was a great passer and Dirk gets maybe 2 or 3 assists a game. But Dirk can drive and it's not like he dribbles it off his foot all the time. Neither one are known for being a defensive stopper and both guys play either forward spot.

I think LeBron is the new Oscar Robertson. From the clips I have seen and what I have read about the Big O (plus his stats) he could do it all and was a triple double threat virtually every night. The same can be said about LeBron.

I compare Rudy Gay to Dominique Wilkins. Nique was a great scorer, a solid shooter, and an awesome dunker who used power to finish strong. I think Rudy Gay has a similar game and is also a good game dunker like Nique was. Rudy Gay has a complete offensive package and can get to the line. Both are solid rebounders and great all-around athletes. Both guys can get you some steals and some blocks.

I think Blake Griffin is similar to Shawn Kemp since both are incredible athletes and awesome dunkers. Kemp's game wasn't that refined but he was hard to stop inside. Blake is a similar player today who can throw down some great alley-oop dunks and can dunk on anyone in traffic.

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I didn't give you any negs.

I didn't give you any negs. Just didn't like the comparison too much. Bird was just such a diffeent kind of plyer that he;s the type of guy who there will never be another just like him. Personally, to me, the closest thing to Bird has been Dirk. And even he isn't quite the passer or tough guy like Bird.

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igua, Us fans are still

igua,

Us fans are still looking for the next Magic and the next Bird. We have been waiting for a long time and are not sure when it's gonna happen. They were unique players and two of the best ever. Other than MJ and the pantheon of great centers, Magic and Bird are the best players ever.

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Agreed. Though I don't see

Agreed. Though I don't see another Kobe, Dirk or LBJ in the near future either.

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I've been saying that Dwight

I've been saying that Dwight is a much improved version of Kevin Willis for years...

I like that Vinnie Johnson-Ben Gordon comparision..

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I'm gonna go really old

I'm gonna go really old school for a couple ones:

Dirk Nowitzki to Dolph Schayes. Nobody probably remembers Schayes but he was a dominant scorer and hall of famer in the 50s with an outside game that no other power forward had ever displayed. Here's a quote about him from wikipedia: "Although tall for his era at 6' 8", Schayes was especially known for his deadly, high-arcing, outside set-shot. It arced so high that his teammates referred to it as "Sputnik". Defenders who attempted to deny him the outside shot were confronted by his powerful drive to the basket." Tall but known for his deadly, high arching outside shot? Now theres a match seperated by 50 years!

Kevin Love to Jerry Lucas. Despite being relatively unathletic, Lucas used his IQ, positioning and hustle to carve out a niche as one of the most dominant rebounders in NBA history. He was also a very good shooter and was not afraid to face the basket and drain a shot from 15+ feet away. Despite being relatively unathletic, Love uses his IQ, positioning and hustle to be the best rebounder the league has seen since Rodman. He is also a dangerous outside shooter with range uncommon for such a big man.

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Kevin Durant - George

Kevin Durant - George Gervin
Lebron James - Magic Johnson/Julius Erving
Kobe Bryant - Michael Jordan
Blake Griffin - Karl Malone
Dwyane Wade - Michael Jordan
Vince Carter - Dominique Wilkins
Kevin Love - Bill Walton without shotblocking
Chris Paul - Isiah Thomas

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