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Tobias Harris potential

I've been watching this guy play a good bit over the last year or so and in Milwaukee he seemed good but he really seemed to break out last year when he was traded to the magic. He's got a versatile offensive game and is a pretty thick kid that can at the 3 or the 4. He's started a little slow this year due to injuries but I saw him for the first time tonight and think he's gonna be a nice candidate for most improved. What do y'all think of him?


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He can play and he proved

He can play and he proved that last year when he got traded and averaged like 17 and 9 in Orlando. It will be very difficult for him to win most improved considering the 2nd half of the season he had last year and also there will be stiff competition for that award. I actually think his teammate Arron Afflalo has as good a chance to win it if not better.

Some other players who are in contention at this early part of the season could be Evan Turner, DeRozen, Beal, Isaiah Thomas, Spencer Hawes or even Anthony Davis.

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I believe Jeff Teague or Eric

I believe Jeff Teague or Eric Bledsoe will take home MIP

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Nol love

for Evan Turner?

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no way they get it over Lance

no way they get it over Lance Stephenson

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Bledso was somebody I

Bledso was somebody I actually meant to put on my list but forgot about him because he is injured. Teague is playing more aggressive offensively but his numbers aren't improved enough yet to warrant a MIP in my mind. He is only scoring 3.4 more ppg and 1.6 more assists per game (which is actually a pretty significant improvement) while his shooting numbers are down as low as they have been since his rookie year.

He could potentially be an all-star and at 8 million a year for the next 4 years you have to love him as your starting PG but when you disect the numbers he isn't a favorite in the MIP discussion this season. Now if you are basing it on him continuing to improve and putting up numbers a little closer to 20-10 with better shooting percentages he could be in the discussion. However if we are basing it off the small sample size we have seen so far this year there are much more deserving candidates.

For Example Anthony Davis PPG are up 7.2, his RPG are up 2.2 and his blocks are up an incredible 2.1 per game while his percentages haven't dipped. Evan Turner is also up 8.4 in PPG while shooting a career best from the field (despite being abysmal from 3 so far this year).

The last person to win the award without increasing their scoring average by at least 5 points per game was Darrell Armstrong in 1999.

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Another MIP candidate could

Another MIP candidate could be Markieff Morris

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I don't think he'll be MIP

He already had his mini-breakout which will probably hurt his chances for getting the award unless he plays out of his mind this season. I don't see that happening.

Also, I've just had a feeling since last season that he should be the 6th Man on pretty much any team he goes to; mainly because he is alright playing off the ball, but his greatest strength is when he has the ball in his hands against a PF. He's also mainly a scorer when on the court and I generally like that in my 6th Man especially if he's going to be handling the ball so much as Harris projects to do.

Anywho, my favorite comparison for him in the last couple months has been Lamar Odom, but without the ability to consistently go to the SF position.

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And without the crack

And without the crack addiction...

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I haven't seen much of Tobias

I haven't seen much of Tobias Harris, but I doubt he can operate as a point forward like Lamar Odom could in his prime.

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reminds me a little slower

reminds me a little slower carmelo anthony

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How about Earl Clark for MIP?

How about Earl Clark for MIP? These past two games, he's shown signs of good things to come. I have to agree Lance Stephenson would be a lock to win the MIP if the season ended today.

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Stephenson has improved but

Stephenson has improved but he is far from a lock at this point. He has increased most of his numbers but he is scoring less than 5 ppg more than he did last year. As I stated before nobody has increased their scoring average by less than 5 and won the MIP award this century.

If the season ended today (12 games into the season) Anthony Davis would be the closest thing to a lock for the award. His numbers so far are ridiculously good with 21 ppg 11 rpg and 4 bpg.

Earl Clark is averaging 6 and 4 so I have no idea what you are watching. His best game this year was 15 and 5 in a loss to Charlotte. Clark had 11 double doubles last year in LA (including games of 22 pts 13 rebounds and 20 points 12 rebounds) and he will never get the minutes to compete for this award in Cleveland.

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The thing about MIP is that

The thing about MIP is that sometimes it is just about people getting more minutes. Improving in the same amount of minutes is what really makes somebody a MIP for me. Teague is not even getting one minute more (33.7 to 32.9 last year), while still raising his production.

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