[bdiddy5115Participant]

I know this board is generally pretty high on Sullinger, but Robinson has risen above him on my board. His tenacity, explosiveness and motor give him the slight edge on Sullinger’s refined post game.

Who do you have higher and why?

[ChrispyParticipant]

Never sold on Sullinger as an NBA star. Big fan of Robinson’s motor, agressiveness, and developing skill set. I know I’ll be proven right a few years down the line.

[F_DA_POParticipant]

Out of all the top 10 guys, Sullinger impresses me the least. I can’t see him being that good in the NBA. I could definitely see Robinson being the better pro especially given their current mindsets. Robinson has gone through more hard times than anyone can imagine, while Sullinger has been told all his life he is the best. Sullinger doesn’t seem to do anything that great, while Robinson has the "tenacity, explosiveness and motor" type game that I think will translate more into the NBA than Sullingers game.

[JaeEvolutionParticipant]

T-Rob all day. To me he is like a poor mans Blake Griffin, not as good handles, not as athletic (who is?), but he is built like a mack truck and always puts himself in good position to score by bullying his way on the block.

Sullinger on the other hand should’ve came out last year, if Ohio State has an early exit or he underperforms I could see him falling a lot.

[NashyMingParticipant]

Disappointed in how Sullinger performed so far.  Ohio State hasn’t been too good this year either.  Also, Sullinger’s injury also made him slipped a bit on my book.

On the other hand, I am very impressed with Thomas Robinson.  At 6’8, it’s a concern since he’s undersized, but he does have solid wingspan.  If he measures out 6’9+ in shoes, he has a chance to overtake Sullinger in the draft.

[JNixonParticipant]

 I’d definitely take Sullinger over Thomas Robinson. Robinson has been impressive and he will be a nice PF in the NBA, but Sullinger has the size and scoring ability to be a top offensive option for a team. He’s probably not going to be a great defender, but he will rebound and score. Thomas Robinson works hards, has developed some effective moves to utilize his tools, and plays with passion, and he’s a great athlete with good enough size, but I don’t see him ebing a guy you run offense through at a high level. He’s also not a great defender, even though he can develop into a nice team defender with his athleticism and length.

[TruettParticipant]

I think that sullinger should have come out last year.. he does not look as focused. That may be a strike against him but I would still take him over Robinson. When you watch Sullinger play he makes shots that he is going to be able to make day one in the NBA. His game reminds me of Elton Brand and he might be able to achieve close to his level of production as long as he stops trying to drive from the 3-pt line.

I like Robinson, but he does not look like he is NBA strong yet and I think it might take him 1-2 more years to get that strong. You could say he is a poor man’s Blake Griffin, but I prefer a rich man’s Hakin Warrick because Blake is the love child between a mountain and an Antelope and T-Rob is not of that level and may never be. I think that T-Rob and Warrick have very similar physiques right now. Not that hakim warrick is bad, he is a great athelete and his game is like blake’s, but he is also a great example of a player who was strong enough to dominate in college, but couldn’t become NBA strong, or really change his game. Warrick went 19th and would probably still go there if you redrafted today. Brand went 1st and would probably still go first if you re-drafted today. Looking at these things, I’d put sullinger ahead

 

[TheFpParticipant]

Sullinger will struggle in NBA due his lack of athleticism, lack of speed. Poor man’s Boris Diaw.

Robinson’s body is NBA ready, his strength and motor can be compared to any PF in NBA. He is also nicely developing his mid-range JS beside great rebounding skills. Also warriors character and i don’t see any questions about his success in the next level.

[lalailaParticipant]

even if Sully is called undersized he is an inch taller much much bigger and as long or even longer too..his jumper is much better post moves much better plus has really nice court vision..he is complete offensivelly he might not be a franchise player due to his lack of explosiveness but if Zach can be pereniall 20ppg scorer Sully could get there too at least once..

yes i explained my opinion only about his O but this is one and only thing who will get TRob out of chances to be a star he is still too small to be the guy every night against other PF’s and that will be the factor why he might not play elite minutes which will down his rebounds avg and overall game too..and while Sully isn’t much worse of a rebounder too i’d take him..

[JoeWolf1]

 As much as I love Robinson, I think if Sullinger answers two questions before the draft, you have to pick him.

Question 1:  Sullinger’s weight – I’m always a little weary of picking a guy who struggles with weight issues.  When a man is 18-22 years old they are usually about the leanest they will be in their adult life.  When a player struggles with weight at 19 then what will he be like at 25?  Sully cut some weight in the offseason and came ready to play when the season started, but I think he needs to show up in great shape in the combine to fully answer that question.  When a guy is carrying 10 -12+ % body fat then they are sacrificing speed and athleticism just by carrying that extra weight.

Question 2: Injuries – Back spasms generally aren’t a nagging injury that will slow down a player’s career, so I’m not that concerned about this one.  The foot is a different thing, apparently it was a bone bruise, but so many big men have been severly hindered by foot injuries I’d need a doctor’s 100% confidence this was behing him.

That being said, I love Sullinger’s post game.  He is a low post tactician, and one of the best bigs using the glass that I’ve seen in years.  He also has a great face up game ( better than Perry Jones IMO ) and despite not being a great athlete, is a very effective rebounder and I feel he will be one at the next level as well.  If he checks out on his weight issues and his foot then I think he should be taken before Robinson.  If he shows up to the combine at 275 lbs and 15% body fat…then I think that’s a big concern and you take Robinson.

They are two very different players, but in my eyes very close in ranking when looking at this draft.  I think both are pretty safe picks, to be honest, and both will be starting caliber players in the league at a very early point in their NBA careers.  It’s neck and neck in my opinion, edge Sullinger, but not by much.  

[B FreeParticipant]

 Robinson is Derrick Williams but cares alot less about being a SF, he just wants to play and always plays to his strengths, never trying to prove something like Williams did at points last year.

[TheFpParticipant]

Of all top 10 picks only Drummond and Robinson are NBA ready at this moment, maybe also Barnes and J.Lamb.

Others are highly talented but some too thin, too fat, immature or too soft.

If i was a GM, my priority would be upper four, depends on need. 

 

[r377Participant]

I love T-Rob. He has a great body, strong work ethic and plenty of heart.

He could well sneak into the top 5 before the end of the season

[r377Participant]

Actually I have him going 4-6 in my mock at the moment.  Davis, Drummond and J Lamb top 3. I would personally take Robinson over Harrison Barnes and have him level with MKG and Sullinger

[uknationParticipant]

Basically most of y’all are picking Robindson because of his athletic ability. News flash…Just about everyone is athletic in the NBA. He won’t be able to just overpower and out jump the NBA bigs, he’s not Blake G. Sully on th eother hand has skills and skills matter much more than athletic ability in the NBA. He has very good footwork, very good rebounder and can hit the mid range with consistantcy. Who ever said T.Rob is D. Williams must be smoking because T.Rob has no consistant mid range game at all.

 

Have to laugh at people saying a player is under sized when they have skills and footwork. Tell that to K.Love,Zbo,P.Millsap,Elton Brand,Al Horton.  You don’t need great size if you are very skilled. Sully hasn’t gotten worst he has actually gotten better and he doesn’t have to do as much because he has more help than T.Rob does

[PulseGlazerParticipant]

I love Robinson, but he’s not a top option on an NBA team.  That isn’t neccessarily a knock, however, as on a team that needs a culture change, or is defense minded first, or has another top scorer, that might fit better.  A quick example of a team I’d like Robinson more on that Sullinger is the Wizards.

Sullinger will score and board in the NBA like a bigger Boozer, but may have Boozer’s defensive weakness.  Still, next to say, Tris Thompson and Varejao, that’s more valuable than Robinson.  It’s all context.

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