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These refs.....

are actually so bad


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Apparently breathing on

Apparently breathing on Lebron and Wade is now considered a foul.

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Westbrook can't buy a foul.

Westbrook can't buy a foul.

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I'd hate to be a ref...no

I'd hate to be a ref...no matter what you call someone is pissed at you.

I do agree they are missing some stuff. If the refs made calls exact to the rule though, everyone would be fouled out by halftime..

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Westbrook

Westbrook can't be stopped. I don't think he's missed in the fourth quarter yet. They just said he has their last 11 points.

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220... its one thing to let

220... its one thing to let the players play a little bit, but its another thing to call the game one sided

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I don't think the calls are truly one sided, but that's my opinion

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I love how Wade is still

I love how Wade is still whining about calls even though it's obvious the refs are calling this game in the Heat's favor.

They should give him a tech or something...

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There have been a few more

There have been a few more questionable calls that have gone in the Heat's favor

My Dad was a ref for years so I don't really look to assign blame to the refs unless it's so disgustingly obvious where it can't be denied.

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?

Is your dad Tim Donaghy by chance?

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Hahaha no, my father is not Tim Donaghy...my Dad was never an NBA ref. I was just making the point that I see officiating differently than most people.

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Hahaha no, my father is not Tim Donaghy...my Dad was never an NBA ref. I was just making the point that I see officiating differently than most people.

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All playoffs long they have

All playoffs long they have been giving teams like the Thunder, Spurs, and Heat an upper-hand.

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Westbook

There's now way Westbrook drives the lane all game and is hit by multiple defenders on countless ocassions and only shoots 3 free throws smh, these refs have influenced these games too much in what has been a great playoffs series to much, and everything has been one called way.

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People are blaming the refs

People are blaming the refs way too much. Sure there's been some questionable calls but not as many to say the refs are the main reason the Thunder are losing.

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Every time Lebron and Wade

Every time Lebron and Wade get touched it's a foul, but everytime one of them pushes Durant where they want him to go, it's a no call.

@akhan786 yes! That's what I've been saying this whole time. I've lost respect for Wade for complaining about everything when he should be thanking them for not calling more fouls on him

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I do agree, I have also lost respect for Wade because he complains so much more than he ever did before he played Lebron and Bosh.

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its so obvious

I agree with the majority here that the NBA is clearly favoring the heat but at this point you can't really even hate the players. Congrats to lebron. If the refs weren't cheating, this series would at least be tied

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No hate against the Heat what

No hate against the Heat what so ever. The only thing I'm disappointed in is when they played in OKC the refs called the calls almost equal on every play. If Lebron was fouled on one end, Durant got the foul on the other. In Miami OKC have barely been getting calls at all. At one point I saw Perkins get a foul on Wade when he was just grabbing the ball over him. &$#%#&@! was ridiclous.

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I agree that the reffing

I agree that the reffing helped the heat in this game, but it isn't like every bad call favored the Heat. What about that flop by Durant to draw the foul on James Jones, or that time LeBron was hacked on drive by Seflosha and it wasn't called, leading to a Thunder fast break, or the fact that Perkins was never once called for an illegal screen, or that Fisher got away with all his off-the-ball shoving.

There were some big calls in the Heat's favor, but you guys act like it was the deciding factor in the game. I'm so tired of hearing all the complaining. The refs aren't going to get every call when there is so much physical play.

Sure, Westbrook should have shot more than 3 free throws, but how many individual bad calls did they make regarding Westbrook? He did avoid contact much more in this game than he usually does, often attacking from the side rather than just going straight at defenders and the basket. He did get fouled some times, but I don't think LeBron shot any FTs in the 1st half, and he was definitely fouled in that half.

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I'm not disagreeing with the

I'm not disagreeing with the reffing being done poorly. I've thought the entire postseason the reffing has been terrible, but have any of you ever reffed before? I tried it for a year, and it' flipping ridiculous. It's so much harder then you guys think, and just being inches to one direction causes a poor angle to see the play. Am I going to give the refs a full pass? No, they have done a poor job, but you guys have to at least start to give Miami SOME credit.

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Refs

yes refs are bad but basketball has to be by far the hardest sport to officiate...it's also pretty tough to call in okc favor when harden flops every play... kevin durant gave in to some flopping as well.. props to russ for only flopping once lol...it really gets annoying watching bron and wade argue for a foul call every play tho.. wish they had the professionalism of bosh...

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Sometimes blaming the ref is

Sometimes blaming the ref is legit when a guy who is a slasher take 20 field goal and does not go to the line to back that up, something is wrong. Also I am sure when they are in OKC you will see the difference. I just hope OKC can make their free throws this game.

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Lol the way y'all are putting

Lol the way y'all are putting it they shot 30 fts each lebron didn't shoot his first 2 fts till midway in the 3rd quarter and I believe for the game he took 8 your screaming foul for Westbrook but how many time in that game did he actually drive to the basket out of his 32 shot attempts he took 20 jumpers and Durant drove like twice they are a jump shooting team the only player that tries to get to the basket and ft line is James harden they shoot to many jumpshots and barely attack the basket and if you wanna scream at the refs lebron could have easily took 20 fts if the refs woulda called it in the heats favor

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^^^^^

You must have been watching a different game bro.

I saw Westbrook constantly attacking in the paint but with no foul being called. Even most of his layups HAD to be an AND 1.

I usually don't whine about refs, but this game was just strange that the Heat were getting every little call and the Thunder would get hacked and get no call.

I don't really even care who wins the Finals since Boston got ousted. I just hope whoever wins it, wins it without this controversy because I hate hearing from opposing fan bases all offseason that Team XYZ only won their championship because of the refs.

That kind of crap drives me crazy.

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Refs helpd OKC blow the game

I dont think the Refs cost OKC the game, bad play down the strecth of this game and the other two cost OKC these past 3 games. But the reffing has been terrible in my opinion. Westbrook takes 32 shots tonight, 10-12 may have been jumpshots and the rest where attacks to the rim and he only shots 3 free throws???? and two of those came from a Wade foul on a jumpshot. So u trying to tell me on about 20 attacks on the rim this kid is only fouled once come on man.

Also How its it the James can basically man handle and push Durant around when OKC is looking to get him the ball. And its easy to see James pushing,holding,bumping etc and doing what ever to keep the ball from Durant. And doing the same thing when he has the ball and is trying to make a move or drive, but nothing is called. But when Durant, Harden, or anyone guards Lebron who has a considerable size advantage they pick up cheap fouls just for trying to hold the position while they're getting bulldozed by Lebron.

A key non-call on the Heat was when Harden got the steal and was pushing the break and Wade fouled like 2-3 times down the court reaching for the ball and then again when he went up for the shot but nothing was called. But moments later Lebron James drives on a fast break and Durant ties the ball up when James elevates before he could get a shot off and the ball goes out of bounds, but the ref decides to call a late wistle on a fantom foul by Collinson who nevers touch Lebron he just happen to run near him as the ball goes out of bounds.

Like i said before the OKC cost themselves the game but the refs havent called this series 50-50. Its easy to see everything is in the favor of the Heat. And this come from a fan of neither the Heat or Thunder just a fan of basketball when its played and called the right way.

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Yeah the refereeing has been

Yeah the refereeing has been terrible. The constant bad calls have thrown OKC out of their rhythm, and you can just see the frustration mounting. They aren't even playing against the Heat now, they are playing against the refs.

Durant's "flop" against Jones was a foul. Jones had no eyes for the ball and just pushed him away from a possible rebound. Even if Durant sold it, that's still a dirty play. Miami is the dirtiest team I've seen in a while, they are always grabbing at people's arms, like Chalmers did to Rondo in ECF, Lebron did to Westbrook in the dying seconds of game 2, and Chalmers did again to Durant today. Only the one against Durant was called because it was too blatant not to call. Oh, and don't even get me started on Spoelstra stepping onto the court and shouting in Westbrook's face, waving his hands.

How about the foul call on Durant/Westbrook when Durant cleanly blocked the shot? Or Ibaka getting called for a foul on Bosh when he did everything possible to avoid contact with Bosh and barely touched him when he was lying down. Or Harden cleanly stripping Lebron and getting called for a foul, or Harden doing nothing to Lebron and getting called for a foul off the ball?

These are just some of the examples of bad calls going against OKC, that's without the non-calls they missed.

I'm not saying OKC couldn't win under those conditions, but it has clearly affected their focus and cohesiveness to the point where they are displaying the makings of learned helplessness on the defensive end. For those who don't know, learned helplessness is a psychological effect which can occur when a person is met with failure due to things beyond their control so many times no matter what they try that they stop trying to escape bad situations. In the experiments the outside force is usually a rigged test, and in this case it's one-sided refereeing. The Thunder seem to have lost all belief that anything they can do will allow them to defend Miami without fouling, so they are barely rotating, are helping late and their whole mindset is to ignore the defensive side of the ball.

A veteran team would be able to rise above this adversity, but the Thunder are too young and emotional to stay focused defensively in the face of bad officiating. Lebron might well win his ring, and to his credit he has played very well, but it's still going to be tainted in my mind by the appalling bias shown towards the Heat. That the Thunder has been able to keep every game close is a testament to their offensive abilities, but their collective headspace is messed up right now, and the refs are to blame.

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I officiate intramural

I officiate intramural sports, and ages 10 to 14 in winter tournaments and I definitly understand basketball is a hard sport to ref...but this is the NBA Finals. They arent putting rookie referees out there and paying em 25 dollars a game. These guys do this for a living, and they certainly havent done well the entire playoffs.

In the refs defense, the flopping is at an all time high (or is it low, its just bad), which probably makes them second guess nearly everything they do call. They also probably arent immune to the outside noise of all the conspiracys and wanting the series to go 7 games or whatever the talk is, so I'm sure they are hesitating on some calls, which leads to alot of misses. I'm not saying its acceptable, simply my attribution for their struggles.

OKC has only themselves to blame for all 3 of these losses though, they have made a habit of being a team that gets in early holes and somehow is able to come back...that kind of trend takes a toll no matter how old you are and puts a level of strain on your club against a team like Miami (not Washington or Charlotte), they missed a bunch of free throws in game 3, and had 2 fouls on 3 point shot attempts. Tonight they were up 17 at one point and couldnt hold that lead.

To the people complaining about Lebron pushing Durant whatever direction he wants, remember how many reps Durant did at the combine, that may not matter a whole lot but if you are physically not strong, its going to be easy to get pushed around sometimes, especially somebody like Lebron. The body contact amount could be a fraction of the amount that Lebron takes, but Durant simply doesnt handle it as well because he isnt as strong

Bottom line, the refs have not been good for the entire playoffs, and its disappointing because this matchup is probably the new big NBA rivaly. But they are not the reason the Thunder havent won the lost 3 games. The Thunder get away with plenty of stuff too, its just not seeming like it because when they need something to go their way, it doesnt.

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Poor Freethrow shooting (by

Poor Freethrow shooting (by OKC standards) + Hardens struggles + finals experience = MIA 3-1..... Lebron is shooting 85% from the line and Durant 73%...

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@Biggysmalls; OKC losing the

@Biggysmalls; OKC losing the last two games you can put to poor play to a large extent, but Game 2 was clearly the fault of the officials, two missed foul calls with 11 seconds to go? Nothing OKC can do about that, not saying they would have won if they had managed to force OT, but the refs prevented them having that chance.

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I've been a huge Thunder fan

I've been a huge Thunder fan ever since they came to OKC so I may be a little biased, but this is the most bias I've ever seen toward a team in a series since the Lakers-Kings series in '02. I don't think anything can top that tragic Game 6, but this is a reoccuring event that's happened 3 games in a row. Even stepping back and examining the whole game as a pure fan of basketball, I'm still disgusted with the calls Lebron and Wade have gotten and what they've been able to get away with. I may be wrong when I say this, but to me it seems like the refs might be a little intimidated by Lebron and Wade. I mean, everyone sees what they do to the refs when they don't get a foul called for them. It sure seems like the refs do a lot now to make sure those 2 don't get upset with them.

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you can't say Miami is not

you can't say Miami is not the better team in this series, they control Durant and the flow of the game!!

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