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  • #30550
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    Cardinal_Fan
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     As a prospect im not sold on this guy as a legit first rounder next year, i think he may need at least 3-4 years to establish a position and sharpen his perimeter skills. Right now he is a tweener at about 6’8 with a long lean muscular build thats is built for the wing but his perimeter game is a but to raw to contribute on the next level, but he does major damage to 4’s on the collegiate level because of his quickness and face-up ability. His shot is suspect with terrible down right ugly form, and very slow shooting mechanics. As a ballhandler he doesnt show very advanced ballhandling skills to be considered at least a strong slasher. He is athletic but average at NBA standards. He seems to have somewhat of an attitude problem or some sense of entitlement issue becuz wathcing him last year he starts to pout when the ball doesnt come his way and also seems not interested or non existent if he is not contributing in the scoring column. If he humbles himself and works on the holes in his game he could be a really solid pro with good offensive and defensive potential. I think he could develope in2 a Lamar Odom point forward type of prospect with hard work. What are your thoughts on Jones’s future and ceiling, or views of him as a prospect????

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  • #546175
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    Not a legit first rounder next year? Your kidding right? The guy is and will be a lottery selection next year. He is a tweener but his talent and skills are undeniable. 19 years old and is already built like a man at 6’8 245lbs. He will be a PF in the NBA and will be a mismatch nightmare against slower PFs. He may never be a star, but he has 2nd option scorer potential.

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  • #546183
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     Teams can go small and matchup on him with a 3. He doesnt have a post game and his ball handling is decent. Of course he would be a matchup for a traditional power forward but no coach is stupid enough to put a big slow guy out on a island against him. On top of that if your going to make him your 4 he is going to have to guard 4’s, which means they have a mismatch. Also his shot to this point is not respectable at all so traditonal 4’s can afford to play off of him without him being a real threat as a jump shooter.

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  • #546187
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    laarethekings
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    If Jones was smart he would work on his outside shot… Play at the 3 and move a little to the 4 like Big Game James!

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  • #546188
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    ilike.panochas
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    Your just nitpicking his game. The guy is a lottery talent and would have been a top 10 pick this year and I will still be a top 10 pick next year.

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  • #546195
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     Since when is nitpicking telling the truth. What skill does he have that can come in and help out an NBA team rite away??? None. Im not saying i dont like the guy at all, im just saying for his future he would be better served staying 3-4 years becuz as of rite now if he were to have come out this year he would firmly planted on the end of a bench.

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  • #546198
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    I’ll take it a step further. Jones is a top 4 pick.  And with his frame, I’d love to see a 3 try and hold onto that power down low.  The real question is his motor.

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  • #546200
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    SMH at this post. This guy could have went top 5 in this draft, yet next year, he can’t go top 14? SMH

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  • #546205
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    The guy is at best probably the 4th best prospect on his own team now that he’s come back behind Anthony Davis, Marquis Teague, and Michael Gilchrist imo.

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  • #546207
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    He’s still gonna go 1st round. Also, I rather have Jones then Teague and Gilchrist. I think he will be the CDR for Kentucky next season. He will be the vet who knows what to do when the freshman start struggling.

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  • #546209
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    If he got feedback that he was gonna be top 5 don’t you think he woulda came out this year smh. Y would a guy who wanted to be 1 and done go back to school if he was gonna be a top 5 pick???? Obviously teams weren’t quite sold on him.

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  • #546211
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    If he got feedback that he was gonna be top 5 don’t you think he woulda came out this year smh. Y would a guy who wanted to be 1 and done go back to school if he was gonna be a top 5 pick???? Obviously teams weren’t quite sold on him.

    – I never said he was going top 5, I thought his lowest point was Charlotte at 9 to be honest. In this weak draft, he’s probably a top 6 prospect and would have been in consideration for Utah at the 3rd pick. He didn’t come back because he was dropping, in fact, I remember Aran moving him up before he dropped out the draft. He came back to win from a article I saw.

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  • #546220
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    Cardinal_Fan
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     Regardless, if your lowest point is top 10 y would u go back to school. He’s currently projected by this site to go 14th next year. Obviously lower than he was projected this year….oh an what a coincidence this site also has 3 other UK players projected to go ahead of him just like i said they should be smh. So r u guys sayin Aran is wrong to??? 

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  • #546229
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     And all the peole giving me negatives (Not that i care) has yet to give me an answer about what he can come in and contribute to an NBA team rite now smh

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  • #546232
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    PulseGlazer
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    Yes, that’s exactly what I’m saying. I respect Aran, but wasn’t aware I had to agree with everything he thinks.

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  • #546234
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    ilike.panochas
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    Maybe he went back to school for a chance to win a title? I respect his decision if indeed that’s his reason turning down a garunteed top 10 selection this year.

    And as far as what he can contribute to a NBA team right now, he is an excellent rebounder and posses a think body, he has high level of perimeter skills for a PF, and can average double digit scoring in the NBA right now.

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  • #546252
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    the I in win
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    As of now he isn’t quite fast enough to guard nba small forwards full time.  As of now he isn’t quite strong enought to guard nba power forward more than 12 a game.  However I think in the not to distant future that he will be a rotational nba player, I also think he will be doing this in his rookie year.  He has the combination of talent and late season faltering to have a Derrick Williams-esque breakout year next year.

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  • #546256
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    While I agree he may not significantly improve his stock next season in regards to where he may be selected (still a top 10- lotto pick), he certainly has a chance to improve his game, sharpen his skills and not coast during games, and becoming more assertive. To me, actually working on his game and solidifying himself as a 3 should be more important than trying to go in the top 3 or 5.

    In hindsight, watching Jones at times, he sorta looked the way Lebron looked in the finals (bear with me 4 a sec). He seemed like he just didn’t know in what way to score or in what way to use his immense talent to be a factor and presence on the offensive end. His handle while good for a player his size, isn’t good enough to consistently beat wing guys with similar athleticism off the dribble and be something to hang his hat on. His jumper is inconsistent and can go on real cold stretches. Although he can back down smaller players, if he’s playing the 4, or even bigger 3’s, he doesn’t have any real go to post moves and just tries to flip and push shots up there when he doesn’t get to his spot. It seemed like once the scouting report was out on him after some good games early, he struggled.

    I think he should really work on his full package of skills. Get some reliable post moves and counter moves. Work on tightening his handle and going right and finishing right. And obviously his perimeter shot. He reminds me so much of Shawne Williams after his one yr at Memphis with his skill set. But for the next level, what took Shawne’s game to the next level was becoming a threat from the perimeter (as well as being serious about basketball). So if T-Jones can do that it should make is triple threat and dribble drive ability that much better and cause him to be even more of a mismatch problem. In college, he can be a combo 3/4, but for the next level he’s surely a 3, so even though he’ll likely still be playing that same spot in college, he’ll still have a ton of opportunities to show his improvement.

    For a guy who was real good as just a green freshman, no telling what he can do after that one yr under his belt and understanding how consistently hard you have to play at the college level and figuring out where to pick his spots on the floor.

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  • #546320
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    Thank you ScoutGuru!!!!! All i was tryna say is the guy is going to need some time. I never said he wasnt talented, i never said he couldnt play, all i said is he wasnt ready rite now an i thought he needed 3-4 years. Now if he makes a complete turnaround next year an converts to a full time 3 then hey more power to him an he proved me wrong….but i just dont see that happening.

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  • #546323
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    He probably went back to school since there is a chance for a lock out. Or maybe he did want to win a championship I mean others before him have done it when they were going to be lottery picks. What about Harrison Barnes? He would probably have been number 1 this year but he went back. Also why do people rank him behind freshmen who haven’t played a game yet? Boggles my mind. I do think he would contribute a little to a team if he were drafted and chances are he will be a lottery pick next year.

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  • #546330
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    Yeah Cjwhit, the thing you gotta understand though is this league drafts all on potential. So obviously there’s still things he (and a whole boatload of other prospects) have to work on and improve, gm’s cannot help but salivate to draft the next ________.

    And yeah i agree wtd, its crazy how a guy who was as productive as a freshman as Jones was is rated below others who are yet to log a collegiate min. That being said, everyone has to let their game do the talking, so he’ll have every opportunity to prove his worth next year, as well as the incoming frosh many are high on.

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  • #546680
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     T.Jones would have been a near lock for top 5 this year IMO. Too much talent, size and potential. BTW, I in win, I remember that play in your avatar and LBJ didn’t jump from there, that’s just where he picked up his dribble and began to take his two steps. It was incredible, but his actually jumped from about a foot after the ft line.

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  • #546686
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    WizardofOz
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    Everything scoutguru said.

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  • #546704
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    cward23
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    First..He wouldn’t have been a top 5-10 or lotto pick( thats one reason he said he came back because the feed back he got was that he would not be picked in the lotto, he would have gone late first

    2nd.. He has just as many holes in his game as most draft picks that aren’t projected to be stars. It’s possible that he would get better staying in college for 3 years but its just as possible he would get better by going pro and practicing against much better players every day int he NBA

    I think he goes top 7 next year because i feel he will be much better this year (soph year is when star freshmen tend to really breakout)

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