Terrance Jones or Kawhi Leonard?
Who does your vote go to, which player do you think is better? Also who would be a better fit for these teams.
Golden State-Terrence Jones
Oh and i forgot Houston, Id say Jones is a better fit for them.
Why would Houston go after Jones when they dont give minutes to promising rookie Patterson?
He's is stuck behing a tough borderline All Star type player in Scola..
I have a feeling Im wrong, but that is why I am asking..Would anybody want to give their own 2 cents?
I never said Houston would go after Jones, all I did was asked who would fit in with Houstons team better.
This time next year, everyone will be saying Jones should've been a top 5 pick..
I like Leonard also,but he seems to disappear in big games...I think Leonard should go in the 9 to 15 range...
@Rudeboy. How many times have teams seleted a rookie when they have a guy or two at the same position who is young. Especially houseton. You asking the question like all NBA teams mae picks based off of comon sense:)
I think Leonard should go in the 9 to 15 range...
My bad for not mentioning this earlier thats why I picked these 6 teams. They are the teams in the 10-15 range.
Also I consider Jones a SF at the next level.
I don't think Houston would go for either.. We are chalk full of guys at both forward positions.
Luis Scola, Patrick Patterson, and Jordan Hill
Chase Budinger, Terrence Williams, DeMarre Carroll
So I would HATE for them to draft another forward, especially a tweener. We need a center and a shooting guard for the future (post-Kevin Martin)
The same could be said for Phoenix. They don't need another small forward / power forward.
Grant Hill, Jared Dudley, Hakim Warrick, Channing Frye, Gani Lawal, and Josh Childress.
That said, I think the rest of the teams would go for Terrence Jones. He's younger, more skilled, and played in a tougher conference while putting up similar numbers on a team full of talent and against better competition.
Yet Houston has had a log jam at that position for awhile and still goes after more
Actually no, we haven't drafted a swingman in the first round in well over a decade.. Unless Nicolas Batum, Richard Jefferson and Rudy G,ay are accounted for, which were traded shortly after they were drafted.
Draft/sign as a free agent, trade for..either way they collect bigs
Yeah, pretty much. We've never had many weaknesses in the Yao era. Now we just have a young roster that is going to end up breaking up when their rookie contracts expire.
I dont think it would really hurt them to draft Jones because they can always trade who ever does't produce. Ca't really be picky and have to pick the best player available with where the Rockets are projeted to pick
I'm actually hoping one of the internation bigs are still around. We're in an odd rebuilding process where we're still decently competitive but need to rebuild a.s.a.p. so why not take a chance on Jonas V.
Plus, it'll be difficult to simply trade away guys that don't produce because they were in the log jam. It's tougher to judge talent in a log jam.
I think Golden State should go with the best player available. They could either go with size in the back court, a true small forward, or a guy who can play the stretch four and also play some 3. They have a great back court, a very good power forward in David Lee and some nice role players. They should look at finding a 3rd option...
I think GS is in good shape. I think teams should either build around a dominant big man or a dominant back court. So they need to build around their back court. I would think that if they win the lottery they take Derrick Williams in a second. Top three then Perry Jones. Take a strong look at Alec Burks. If Kawhi Leonard is projected as the next Gerald Wallace then I think he should be their pick. I would even look at Kemba Walker to form a deadly 3 guard rotation. Then they need to pick up some super long small forwards and big men to help their size situation. Then other realistic options are Terrance Jones or the Morris Twins. All three should be pretty solid. Decent 3rd or 4th options. Kind of like Jeff Green. Of those three, then they need the one who can step out and hit the three and also bang inside for rebounds and run the break for dunks and lay ups. I would give the edge to Terrance Jones there, I think he would have more upside.
In many situations a Monta-Steph-Kemba backcourt trio would be absolutely deadly, especially if they could add some defensive wing players and some shot blockers over the next few years.
I think Utah has enough solid forwards who do well on offense. Kanter (if they get a good pick, and if he can play center) is a great option. Jimmer would be a good starting point guard or back up point guard who can hit the three and dump the ball down into their big men. Jan Vesely gives them more of an athletic, shot blocking presence over a Terrance Jones or one of the Morris twins.
Indiana has a good small forward in Danny Granger and another good one in Paul George. They also have Psycho T at the four and Josh McRoberts at the 4/5. If they can find a forward who is a lot better than those options then I think they need to pick him. Hibbert is a good center who is steadily getting better so I think they are covered at 5. Collison is a good point guard but I think teams nowadays need two options at point guard. I would look at Brandon Knight if he is there. Leonard and Jones look like small forwards and I think that is their strongest position. They really need a shooting guard, and if Jeremy Lamb comes out you gotta take a look at him if you are the Pacers.
Hate to be picky but you guys completly missed out on the question...Way off.
The question was who would fit in best with those teams, not would those teams want to draft them, or who should those teams target. Simply who is better suited for each team because both Leonard and Jones are looking like they will be drafted somewhere from 10-15, and those are the 10-15 teams. Im curious to know which teams they fit in with best, and who gets the slight advantage of value when each team is selecting. Does Jones fit in better at Charlotte or does Leonard? So on and so on...
Terrence Jones has the more consistent jumper and better size and versatility.
The Pacers do not need a PF. Respect Hansbrough, he had 5 straight 20-point games last month and he is becoming a solid NBA post.
Also, McRoberts was almost traded with a draft pick for OJ Mayo. His value is pretty high as well.
Oh, sorry, didn't read your 9-15 post. I think Leonard will go a little lower, actually. Too short and has poor shot selection.
bascially the people who misse dout on the question wanted to branch out to another subject. Happens all the time
Pretty much what lakeshow said.. The topic wasn't too interesting to grasp any attention. So people thought of other things to talk about.
If Kawhi Leonard turns into the next Gerald Wallace then he would be perfect on the Rockets and on the Warriors. Pacers don't really need a small forward. If Terrance Jones could be developed as a 6th or 7th man as a power forward (stretch four) then I think he would be a good fit on the Pacers. But, if he is a more of a small forward, then he would be a better pick by the Warriors.
I think the Bobcats need to get the Best Player Available. They need to rebuild the team from scratch.
Utah-Terrence Jones. Great Passer. Used to be a 6'3 PG before he grew 5 inches. But still has that passing ability he had as a PG. (This may explain why he appears to be inconsistent. Still trying to get used to his body, and how to play with it. Very used to letting other guys do most of the scoring and just getting the ball to them) Utah's offense depends on passing so Jones would be the perfect fit. Utah needs to draft Terrence unless they draft Jan Vesely with their first pick. If they pick Jan with their first pick then they need to try and Burks or Knight with their 2nd. I would not get Jimmer because he does not fit the Jazz's system at all.
Houston-Might trade this pick if Jonas is not available. But the Small Forward that fits their team is Kawhi Leonard because he can play very good defense and is athletic. I feel that if Houston drafted him they would use him to play Shane Battier's old role.
Pacers-I think Jones would fit better because he can shoot the three better than Leonard can. If Dunleavy leaves via free agency, they might pick Jones up, but I doubt it since they already have Paul George. The Pacers might select Jimmer or a PF like Marcus Morris.
Warriors-Kawhi Leonard. The Warriors want to change styles and be a more defensive team. Their goal is to eventually be like the Celtics. So since Leonard can play better defense than Jones he would be a good fit. But I would draft either Jonas or Marcus Morris with the 11th pick.
Suns-Toss up but I wouldn't go for either because they have too many forwards already. I'd go for Jimmer because he could replace Steve Nash once he retires. Nash would be a good mentor for Freddette, he could learn to pass and hopefully play better defense too. He will need both in order to reach his full potential and suceed in this leaue. If he does not attain them he will still be successful but not as good as he could be.
I guess Dorrell Wright is not a small forward. Leonard would give them somebody more physical since GSW has a shooting sf in Wright and Reggie Williams. Also it has Curry, Ellis, and even Lee for playmaking. Neither would be a good option for GSW because they need a true center and possibly a two guard that has promise.
leonard might be more ready now...but jones has a bigger upside...i would take jones.
Houston have heaps of forwards, i think they will target burkes.
Terrence Jones could actually end up a piston (fingers crossed) to learn from and eventually replace Prince with approx the 7th pick in the draft. Even though we need a good PG and C I think Kanter and Irving will be gone and with the Darko drafting I would dare say Joe Dumars would not risk another Euro pick...
Leonard could end up at the suns, jazz or bobcats I believe
I don't like leonard to the pacers. They have tons of players in the same mold already.
Look at their roster. Granger, george, jones, rush, dunleavy, stephenson (bird likes him alot if he wasn't stupid off the court)....All those guys play shooting guard or small forward to go along with collison, ford, price all at the point. Leonard does not fit on this team at all. I'd really like to see them go get a solid power forward.
I hate to say it, his offensive game is far behind his defensive and rebounding game but i would love to see the pacers draft a guy like Kenneth Faried out of morehead state. I see this kid as a more skilled dennis rodman type. Look at what milsap has done in Utah, You can not say that oh his stats are that good cuz he was in college. If you can rebound like that, at that size, you have a nose for the ball and it translates to the pros.
good post - Faried would be great for the pacers with the 15/16th pick. hopefully some of his work ethic / attitude would rub off on Hibbert....
Terrence Jones reminds me of a young Monster Mash. I would take him over Leonard anyday. Derrick Williams, Perry Jones, Terrence Jones in that order of SF's