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  • #39543
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    surve
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    I want to challenge you guys to have a supplemental draft.  Lets hypothetically say we have two new expansion teams entering the league this year and you are the GM of one of those teams.  Choose your team conference/division and name if you like (that should be fun).  And build your team using this year’s draft and a supplemental draft.  Lets see who can come up with the best teams.  You have some FA’s that are not currently signed so dont forget about them either.  If you want to get into salary, amnesty and all of that you can.  This can be a project, so take your time.  I know I will.

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  • #674710
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    fliptonn
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    We get the first overall pick and the 31st, 10 players under contract at the bottom of depth charts from other teams and 9 unwanted restricted free agents (Bobcats)? It sounds fun I’m just trying to understand what our options are here.

    Or can you just draft any rookies you want? or what

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  • #674713
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    JoeWolf1

    Sounds fun, just very difficult to organize

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  • #674716
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    fliptonn
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    A pool of players to choose from, from each team, their salaries, a list of RFA’s and you’d have to assume who isn’t going to be drafted, (we could base that on NBAdraft.net’s mock)

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  • #674725
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    fliptonn
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     www.nba.com/bobcats/inside_tracks_expansion_selection 

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  • #674726
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    surve
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     thats what I got you guys for, like I said, its a project.  we can pull up the old expansion rules like when the T-Wolves came into the league.  We can create a pool of players as well.  good ideas so far dlipto11.  we can used this thread to create the rules and the player pools, then we can do the draft on another thread.

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  • #674733
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     So the Bobcats selected 19 players from other teams who were unprotected.  So I say we start there and choose a list of players that would be consensus to be left unprotected.   My question is, I know we would likely leave a guy like Rashard Lewis unprotected, but would it be logical to think that an expansion team would take on his salary, even for a short period of time?  The best candidates to go unprotected would be the ones who get the least amount of playing time and have the lowest salaries….against the most potential.  Like Gerald Wallace was picked by the Bobcats and became and All Star with them, and led them to the playoffs.  Not bad for an expansion guy.  The more and more I think about this, I wish we could do this and have our teams be fantasy, lol.

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  • #674735
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     " According to the expansion draft rules, a restricted free agent who was selected in the expansion draft would become an unrestricted free agent on July 1, 2004."

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  • #674739
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    Ok, I tried to place a ton a restrictions that an actual new NBA team would face. The cap is 60 mil and a team has to spend 80% of that so I need ATLEAST 46 million in contracts on this team. For example a new team wouldn’t get the first pick. They would be put in the lottery and I’m not going to take the easy way out an take the 1st overall (the Grizz got stuck at 6th overall their first year).  I also went after unrestricted FA and paid ALL of them more than what they are paid this year and I feel like I was fair in their contracts. Then I added some undrafted and NBDL guys to the mix.

    So now I’m going to introduce you to a 2nd Chicago team called Chicago Breakdown (catchy right? right?). I would love for Chicago to get a 2nd team like LA. They are a major market and could support it finacially.

    PG: Raymond Felton- 10.5 mil- It’s a pg league right now and he’s a proven starter that can hold down the spot while I build through the draft in comming years.

    SG: Shannon Brown- 7 mil- He’s a Chicago guy so he brings in support and fans right away. In LA everyone said he just needed more PT, well the Phoniex experiment didn’t work out to well for him. Time to come home.

    SF:Gerald Green- 3 mil- Just saying now, SF will be a weakspot for this team. Green is incredibly talented but inconsistant. But for a new team it’s a good time to take a chance on players like this.

    PF- Lavoye Allen- 5 mil- Solid banger and post defender for a new franchise that won’t be a deep team for years to come. You need defensive buisness-like players that are going to bring it every night because you are taking chances w/ inconsistant talented players in other parts of the team (see Green and alot of my bench).

    C- Spencer Hawes- 10 mil- Sorry Philly, I think Hawes is a great post player and I needed a scoring big. He has post moves and a jumpshot AND is relativly young. I’d pay him 10 mil and hope other teams can’t/won’t match it.

    Bench Depth:

    6- Brad Beal- 4.5 mil- Shooting Guard of the future for this franchice and first overall pick at #6 in the 2012 draft.

    7- Bill Walker- 3 mil- He can spread the floor w/ his shooting and plays tough D. Need him to come into the game when Green mentally checks out.

    8- Armon Johnson- 3 mil- Noone is going to pay him 3 mil, but I want a young prospect at the PG position since it is so important. I think he can be like Aaron Brooks with more playing time. A good back up PG for a new team.

    9. Daniel Orton- 2 mil- Big Men take forever to develop and it could be another 2-3 years before Orton reaches his peak performance since he came out so early from Kentucky. I’ll take a chance on developing him and hope he turnes into a rotaion big in the NBA.

    10. Derek Character- 1 mil- again taking a chance that he can develop as an NBA player.

    11. Kris Joseph- 0.5 mil- My 2nd rounder at pick #37 in the 2012 NBA draft. 4 year player in college, not much upside but should be able to come into the league and belong right away.

    12. Justin Denton- NBDL MVP, why not give him a shot? Plus he is from Illinois (far from Chicago, but still in Illinois)

    Summer League/ Trainging Camp Invites: Robbie Hummel, Josh Heytvelt, Omar Samhand, Rabdolph Morris and Otheyus Jeffers (another Chicago guy)

    Added Info: The jerseys would say "Windy City" for home games and "Breakdown" for away games. Team color is Black and Royal Blue w/ Grey (not white)

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  • #674737
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     I say an expansion team should get #1 and #31.  Definitely.  Now, who you choose for #1 is all up to you.

    I move to vote to use NBA 2K12 final list of unsigned FA’s for our unsigned pool.   

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  • #674740
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     great.  Especially the 2nd team in Chicago.  that is very interesting.  Gerald Green is the perfect expansion player, its almost certain that he would be unprotected by the Nets.  Great breakdown.  (pardon the pun)

    Since the lottery is around the corner, I say we use the position of the 2 worst teams for our two teams.   So wherever the Cats and the Wiz fall, we will use that.   The Cats would be in the East and the Wiz would be in the West.  Unless you guys just want to do 1 team. 

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  • #674744
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    fliptonn
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    youre taking brad beal number one overall? and ray felton isn’t in the top 8 players on the trailblazers?

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  • #674745
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    Chewy
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    with MY number 1 pick. He was #6 OVERALL using NBAdraft.net’s mock. I said that since the Grizz got screwed with the 6th overall pick their first year that I would do the same w/ my team to make it more realistic. Instead of just taking AD.

    Plus I ws only going w/ UFA because I didn’t want to be in a "hypothetical bidding war" for RFA. I like Felton because he can be solid for me for 2-3 years while I look for a new and younger star PG.

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  • #674746
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    this is where we gotta do the rules, do we make it simple and say the consensus top 8 players get protected? or the most likely to get unprotected due to productivity against salary?

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  • #674748
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    Chewy
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    if you guys make rules on which players we could take off other teams… A. That would be awesome of you guys putting in the time and B. Would change my team alot obviously.

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  • #674750
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     yes, I think I will start working on a list of unprotected players and it can go through final revision and approval.  I dont think I will make it too tough, it will more or less be the top 8 players unless one of those players has an albatross of a contract that expected to be dumped or amnestied.

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  • #674751
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    I think you should assume that as a new franchise you wont be able to get any UFA’s because you’re team is undesirable. So your make up should just be

    Players under contract or RFA’s not in the top 8 of a team

    Any 1 rookie

    Any 1 rookie projected to go higher then 28th on NBADraft.net’s mock

    Any rookie that you predict will go undrafted (56th or higher on nbadraft.net’s mock)

    And any player who didn’t finish this years season on a roster

    Does that sound fair?

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  • #674754
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    surve
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    so 3 rookies from this years draft?  one of them being undrafted?  I definitely agree with NO UFA’s.

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  • #674757
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    fliptonn
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    as many undrafted rookies at you want though 

    15 man roster

    standard salary cap rules

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  • #674760
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    aamir543
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    ^No, there is a special salary cap rule for expansion teams. I can’t find it, but it’s somthing like the first year they can only use 50% of the cap, 75% the next, and 100% after that.

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  • #674764
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    If my team gets the 2nd pick and the 31st pick I am going to go with Andre Drummond and Draymond Green. That covers the inside.  Or, try to trade the 2nd pick for the Blazers two picks plus another player or two, or for another good trade. 

    If my team picks third then I will go with MKG.  Use him as the defensive/rebounding/energy wing who can put some points on the board and then try to get a scoring/shooting wing next to him.  If I am going for wing players then I would look at taking Will Barton at 31.  I like the potential of a MKG/Will Barton combo on the wing.

    I like the 3rd spot ok, so now my team has MKG as the energy guy at the 3 spot.  Then I get Will Barton, a real UPSIDE guy at 31.  Either guy can play the 2 or 3 with WB also being a solid ball handler and passer.  I will use those as two of my CORE guys. 

    For the expansion draft I want a good mix of talent to build around my MKG and Will Barton core.  I need some veterans to tutor the young guys but I don’t want a bunch of big contracts.  

    I think teams can hold 8 or nine guys leaving the rest of the roster up for the expansion draft. 

    The Bulls are the first team that comes to my mind.  They will keep Rose, Taj Gibson, CJ Watson, Korver, Asik, and either Ronnie Brewer or John Lucas III.  I think they will also protect Carlos Boozer even if I think they should leave him unprotected.  So that is 8 guys.  The 9th guy would be Jimmy Butler.  If they can only protect 8 then I think Jimmy Butler gets cut and I pick him up. 

    The Thunder are a nice mix.  They will obviously protect Durant, Westbrook, Harden, and Ibaka.  Even though he makes a lot of money I think that they would also protect Kendrick Perkins.  The other 3 they will lock up are Collison, Thabo, and Eric Maynor.  I then pick up Cook to be my designated 3 point threat.  I would then draft Cole Aldrich.  I think he will be a good servicable big man for the future.

    Celtics protect:  KG, Ray Allen, Pierce, Rondo, Avery Bradley, Stiemsma, Brandon Bass, and probably one of last year’s rookies.  I then draft Ryan Hollins as a shot blocking big.  I like his combination of length and hops.  Not a great center but I think he is solid.

    The Heat protect:  LeBron, D Wade, Bosh, Chalmers, Battier, Joel Anthony, Udonis Haslem, and Norris Cole.   They leave Dexter Pittman unprotected and he is big, young, cheap, and worth a shot.  I like Pittman here.  They will probably leave Mike Miller unprotected too.  That is tempting, not sure how he will hold up.  But, if he is healthy he can score, shoot, and pass some.  If it comes down to the last pick and all I really have to chose from are overpaid veterans I will definitely think about Mike Miller.  

    The Spurs protect:  Duncan, Parker, Ginobili, Kawhi Leonard, Gary Neal, Blair, Danny Green, and Matt Bonner.  I will then draft Tiago Splitter as a defensive big man.  His long arms can really bother people and he can play the 4 and the 5.  I also want Boris Diaw as a versatile big man who can score, board, and pass.  He can also play at power forward or center.

    The Grizzlies are a young team who can only protect 8 guys:  I think that they would protect Gay, Conley, Gasol, Z Bo, Tony Allen, Quincy Pondexter, Mo Speights, and Dante Cunningham.  I am then picking up Hamed Haddadi as a big man with a soft touch and shot blocking skills and I will also take a flyer on Josh Selby.  

    The Pacers are young and deep but could only protect 8 guys.  They should protect Granger, Hibbert, Paul George, Hill, Psycho T, David West, Louis Amundson, and Darren Collison.  … I am drafting Lance Stephenson hoping he pans out.

    Lakers protect:  Kobe, Bynum, Pau, Sessions, maybe Metta, Jordan Hill, Sessions, and Goudelock.  I am drafting Steve Blake and Devin Ebanks from the Lakers.

     

    Here is my team:

    SF:   MKG

    SG:  Will Barton

    PG:  Steve Blake

    SF:   Devin Ebanks

    SF:  Lance Stephenson

    C:  Hamed Haddadi

    PG:  Josh Selby

    C/PF  Tiago Splitter

    PF/C  Boris Diaw

    C:   Dexter Pittman

    SG/SF:  Daquean Cook

    PF/C:  Cole Aldrich

    SF:   Jimmy Butler

    C:  Ryan Hollins

     

    Starters:

    PG:  Steve Blake

    SG:  Will Barton

    SF:  Michael Kidd-Gilchrist

    PF:  Boris Diaw

    C:   Tiago Splitter

    Bench:

    PG:  Patty Mills

    SG:  Daequan Cook

    SF:  Devin Ebanks

    PF:  Cole Aldrich

    C:   Ryan Hollins

    Reserves:  Josh Selby, Jimmy Butler, Lance Stephenson, Hamed Haddidi, Dexter Pittman

     

    I now have a total of 14 players for my expansion team.  I would like to add 1 more either through the expansion draft or free agent signings during the regular season.  I am building a team of tough, hard nosed players with some scoring mixed in (MKG, Will Barton, Cook, Steve Blake, Boris Diaw, and Josh Selby).  Plenty of bigs who can add rebounding, defense, toughness, and shot blocking.  If I could get one more expansion pick I would go with a  combo guard off the bench who can handle the ball, shoot threes, and score.  I think that I would add Patty Mills as a young, promising scoring guard off the bench.  My team has a limited amount of scorers so I think the addition of Patty Mills would help.

    I want to build a nice cohesive team around versatile, high motor players.  That is why I went after MKG in the draft and picked a bunch of tough big men in the draft.  I also picked 3 Spurs players in Diaw, Splitter, and Patty Mills.  I have a bunch of big men, and I wouldn’t mind shopping Pittman and Haddidi for cash and picks during the regular season if the right deal comes along.

    I also built my team so that I could add either a talented big man or a good young point guard in the 2013 draft.  With Cody Zeller, McAdoo, and Nerlens Noel likely to be high draft picks I think either of those 3 would fit in well with my team.  I don’t like my point guard situation a whole lot but Steve Blake is a nice veteran who can score and pass, and Patty Mills and Josh Selby both have potential.  What I would probably do at point guard is start Blake and play him about 30 minutes a night with Patty Mills getting 18 minutes a night.  I would start the year with Josh Selby in the D League and see what I have with him when he comes back.  Either as the third point guard or as part of a small reserve unit with Patty Mills, Cook, Ebanks/Stephenson, and Aldrich/Hollins inside.

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  • #674766
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    http://www.insidehoops.com/nba-expansion-rules.shtml

     

    so we must select 1 player from at least 14 teams, then we can get our rookies, then we can do our cuts….the Bobcats selected 19 players in 04. Aamir, it said Charlotte could use 66% of their cap the 1st year and 75% the next.

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  • #674776
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    Team : Columbus Ice. Colors would be white, blue, black. Blue Ice for home games, Black Ice for away games.

    Coach : Stan Van Gundy

    PG: Jerryd Bayless. 6mil. We all know what he can do when he gets real PT. With the chance to be a sure starter here I see him being a cornerstone player to th new franchise.

    SG: JR Smith. 8mil. He’s a proven scorer and I dont think he’d turn down the money for guaranteed minutes and a prime scoring option.

    SF: Harrison Barnes 4.5. Assumming Im granted a lottery choice, Id take him around 5 if he fell here.

    PF: Kris Humpries 11.5mil. A rebounding stud, Knows his role, doesnt try going outside of what is expected of him and what hes good at doing.

    C: Ian Mahinmi 4mil. Rebound, block shots, put backs. Not much expected as he’ll split time with backups.

    6: Nicolas Batum 9Mil. All around great player, will most likely start. Key player to the success of this new franchise.

    7: Anthony Randolph 4Mil. Hoping no one else throws and real dollars at him after they saw what he could do once Love went down. Could get real PT off the bench and eventually start

    8: Will Barton .5Mil. Getting him in the 2nd Rd of the draft, used as a scoring option off the bench.

    9: Reggie Evans 2Mil. Need some bangers down low and he’s proven in t he past he can get it done, dirty or not.

    10: Ryan Hollins 2.5Mil. Overpaying for size. 7ft, can fill in as a backup or even start when needed.

    11: Carlos Delfino 4.5Mil. Can hit 3’s, dish it out, rebound, play a little D.

    12: Reggie Hamilton .5mil. Im assumming he’ll go undrafted and be a great backup pg and scoring option off the bench.

    Just realized there were more "rules posted as I was compiling my squad. Oh well, it took me a while to do it and Ill post it anyway.

     

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  • #674782
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    surve
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     I like that!

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  • #674796
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    Tight Butthole
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    Thanks man. Columbus was in the news about a month ago making a proposal about getting an NBA team here. While Im sure itll never happen, with tha talks of contraction and all, Columbus would fully support it and the name Ice actually makes sense for the city.

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  • #674814
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    I like that Columbus Ice name.  That would be a neat team in an area that likes basketball.  I could see them and the Indiana Pacers having a great rivalry.  … the Bulls too.

    I have actually been thinking that the NBA should add two new franchises.  One in Seattle and another one in San Jose.  I think both cities want teams and new money coming into the league would be great.  Then you could put Seattle in the Northwest division.  They could have a great divisional rivalry with the Portland Trailblazers.  The Seattle team would also play against the Thunder a few times a year in the West and would be another good rivalry.

    Then you put San Jose in the Pacific division with the other California teams.  San Jose could form a good rivalry with the Warriors and the Kings.  I want to keep the Kings in Sacto.  I think they have a lot of fan support and they have had some great history too.  They also have a nice young team with DeMarcus Cousins.  I think the Warriors are trying to move to San Francisco and that should help their team.  

    If you put San Jose in the Pacific division I think we can shift two franchises to the Eastern Conference.

    I really hate the Memphis Grizzlies being out West so we can then move the Grizzlies to the Eastern Conference.  I would put us in the Southeast division along with Hawks, Bobcats, Heat, and Magic.  I would also take New Orleans from the West and put them in the East.  I would also put them in the Southeast division.  To make some room for Memphis and New Orleans I would remove the Wizards from this division and put them in the Atlantic division.  The Wizards being in the Atlantic would make sense.  They could then play the Nets, Knicks, Celtics, and Sixers.

    Out West, it looks like the Grizzlies and Hornets leaving the Southwest division only leaves 3 teams in that division.  I would then take the Phoenix Suns out of the Pacific division and put them into the Southwest division with the Spurs, Mavs, and Rockets.

     

    If there is demand in San Jose and Seattle for new teams then I think there should be an expansion.  I think that that would give the league a lot of money and it would also give you two teams with definite sell-outs the first few years.  Some other teams like the Bobcats are struggling but that is because they are the worst team in the league.  If they had two more teams to get easy wins to go against and if they got some more top picks to go along with a good coach I would feel a lot better about that team’s future.  I think there is enough talent for 32 teams.  I think the league wants more parity and having two more teams would help.  It would also help basketball in the Pacific Northwest as well as Northern California.  If San Jose gets a team then I think the Warriors stay in the Bay area and the Kings stay in Sacramento.  

    Then every region of the country and every major market would have a team.  I can see Columbus, Ohio having an argument so if the Bobcats continued to struggle then I could see them moving to Columbus at some point in the future.  I think that Las Vegas is out as a potential NBA city.  I have heard Kansas City and Louisville as potential NBA towns but I think Seattle makes a stronger case, and San Jose is home to Silicon Valley and should have a bunch of money behind it, especially if Larry Ellison buys the expansion franchise.  

     

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  • #674816
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    Alright this took way too long and is way too hard if you do it right. Excluding everyone who’s contract is done this year besides RFA’s and everyone in the top 8 of their team. 

    Coach:
    John Callipari (I know someone’s gonna like this)

    Starters:
    C – Omer Asik
    PF – Anthony Davis
    SF – Ronnie Brewer
    SG – Anthony Morrow
    PG – Luke Ridnour
    Bench:
    – Darius Miller (SF/SG)
    – Robin Lopez (C/PF)
    – Eric Maynor (PG)
    — Nick Collison (PF)
    — Jordan Hamilton (SG)
    Reserves:
    – Lance Stephenson
    – Josh Selby
    – Hassan Whiteside

    We got the whole team based on Anthony Davis basically. A veteran pg to get him the ball. Wings that can shoot and defend. A shot-blocking/energizing center. A bench complete with a strong 8 man rotation. Nick Collison to help AD along and challenge him in practice. And finally your band of misfits for reserves that could end up being really good some day.

    The Goal (5-6 years down the line)
    C – Omer Asik
    PF – Anthony Davis
    SF – Darius Miller
    SG – Lance Stephenson
    PG – Josh Selby

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  • #674889
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    This took a while, only using players that are restricted free agents this coming up year and without a doubt not on the top 8 of a team and rookie free agents and any 1 first round player and any 1 second round player according to the current Mock Draft on NBADRAFT.NET and D-League players… (left out Michael Beaseley because I just wasn’t sure if I would consider top 8. If I get Beaseley, I swap him for Malcolm Thomas. I would try to sign Allen Iverson as soon as I could just to sell more tickets and let the dude play 1 more year.) This team is young and just set up to build in 5 years or so.Props to anyone who completes this!

     COACH: Avery Johnson 

     15 man roster:

    • Patty Mills  Spurs 1
    • Tu Holloway  Xavier 1
    • Marcus Denmon  Mizzou 1/2
    • Rudy Fernandez  Nuggets 2
    • Larry Anderson  Long Beach State 2
    • *Evan Fournier  France 2
    • Bradford Burguess  VCU 2/3
    • Julian Wright  DLeague  3
    • Jae Crowder  Marquette 3
    • Malcolm Thomas  DLeague 3/4
    • Darrell Arthur  Grizzlies 4
    • Anthony Davis  Kentucky 4/5
    • Lavoy Allen  76ers 4/5
    • Yancey Gates  Cincinnati 4/5 (notice Holloway on this list!lol! don’t beat him up! j/k)
    • Robin Lopez  Suns 5                                                                              
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  • #675025
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    I wanted to go with a team in Baltimore but decided to do Virginia Beach/Norfolk (former home of the Virginia Squires)  Virginia Beach/Norfolk has a huge TV market and can easily support an NBA team.  The Norfolk Scope is a pretty old arena though and I think we would be looking to get a new one that seats more than the 12, 000 current capacity of the Scope.

    My supplemental picks

    Omer Asik – Chicago Bulls

    Alonzo Gee –  Cleveland Cavaliers

    Rudy Fernandez – Denver Nuggets

    Chris Wright – GSW

    Anthony Randolph – Minnesota Timberwolves

    Lavoy Allen – Philadelphia 76ers

    Terrence Williams – Sacramento Kings (could go with Donte Green here if Williams is considered in the top 8)

    Patty Mills – San Antonio Spurs

    Jerryd Bayless – Toronto Rapters

    Ivan Johnson – Atlanta Hawks

    Greg Stiemsma – Boston Celtics

    Devin Ebanks – Los Angeles Lakers

    Robin Lopez – Phoenix Suns

    Jeremy Evans – Utah Jazz

    I will wait til the lottery and use Charlotte’s 1st round position.  For the 1st pick in the 2nd round….I am going to take Will Buford.  In the 1st round if Davis or Drummond not available, I am targeting Thomas Robinson (close to hometown), and Harrison Barnes.

    Depth Chart

    PG – Patty Mills (Jerryd Bayless) [T-Will can backup some too]

    SG – Terrence Williams (Rudy Fernandez, Alonzo Gee)

    SF – Devin Ebanks (Jeremy Evans, Chris Wright)

    PF – Anthony Randolph (Lavoy Allen, Ivan Johnson)

    C –  Omer Asik (Robin Lopez, Greg Stiemsma)

    I would also have to offer A.I. a 1 year deal for marketability purposes.  He is still the big name and I think he could probably put up double figure points for the season.

    Undrafted rooks that would get invites (undrafted by current NBADRAFT.NET Mock):

    Dominic Cheek, Marcus Denmon, Hollis Thompson, Tu Holloway, Bernard James, Robbie Hummel, Wesley Witherspoon, Yancy Gates (lol, Funkybunch)

    I didnt put any D-Leaguers or unsigned FA’s on this one, except Iverson.

     

     

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  • #675031
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     dlipto, I think Selby is under contract for 3 years.  Still he could go unprotected.  Also, in a supplemental draft there will be some players who may be in the top 8 as far as rotation that may be left unprotected due to potential signings and salary purposes.  Landry Fields, Michael Beasley, and J.J. Hickson came to mind.

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  • #675044
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    FUNKYBUNCH
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     you are right about Selby. and Collison , Ridnour, Maynor, Brewer are not RFA either. probably glanced at the following 2013 FAs. but still props to dlipto for actually completing this. i know it took some time…

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  • #675054
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    FUNKYBUNCH
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    Here’s a link to all the free agents:

     http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/FreeAgents-12-13/nba-free-agents-2012-2013

    I also left off Bayless and Randolph because i considered them top 8 products on their teams btw.

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     yes, big ups and pluses to everyone who participated in this rough draft.  I would like to do another revised edition of it.

    now, we can start some debates off this as well.  

    Funkybunch, you consider Bayless and Randolph top 8.

    I listed Randolph somewhere in the top 8, but Beasley as well.  If there were an expansion draft, I think its a good chance one of these guys gets left unprotected.  Hell, Beasley has already been "given" away before.  I understand your point and it makes it interesting if this were a live scenario.

    You are right on Bayless, but he is an attractive guy if the Raptors were willing to leave unprotected…I’d snatch him in a heartbeat….but he likely fits into their top 8 and they probably wouldnt just let him go.

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    since Sloan is interested in the Bobcats job, dont see why he wouldnt be interested in the Virginia job.  realistically, the coach I would likely want would be Nellie.  realistically the best coach I would likely be able to get would be Westphal.

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     I like your coaching ideas… sounds like you prefer a fast paced style with them. and all fundamental. you got a point about Randolph/Beaseley too. if we could take any RFA Batum, Eric Gordon, and Hibbert would be huge.  I took Avery Johnson just for a good coach to start out with for the first 5 years. I’d really want coach K or Popovich but that wouldn’t happen. Oh yeah I think Las Vegas needs a team too- probably call them the BUNCH. lol. sports gambling should be legalized anyways. only problem i guess would be a lot of athletes could potentially get in a lot of trouble in Vegas. get high character players and the road team visiting Vegas may get potentially into a lot of problems. 

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     the Virginia Vanguard select Andre Drummond.

    if we had the 2nd pick thats what I would do.  If we were assigned the 4th pick like Charlotte was when they first came in, I would take whoever is available between Drummond, Barnes, and Robinson, in that order.

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    I’ll say I have the 3rd pick and 33rd I guess.

    The team will be the Las Vegas Blackjacks.

    Overpay John Calipari to be the coach

    Supplemental Picks 

    Terrence Williams

    Martell Webster

    Omer Asik

    LaVoy Allen

    Robin Lopez

    Rudy Fernandez

    Jerryd Bayless

    Mickael Pietrus

    Beno Udrih

    Dan Gadzuric

    Draft

    #3 Brad Beal

    #33 Kevin Jones

    Undrafted FA Scott Machado (has to be lower then 56 right?)

    Depth Chart

    PG Jerryd Bayless Beno Udrih Scott Machado

    SG Brad Beal Rudy Fernandez Martell Webster

    SF Terrence Williams Mickael Pietrus

    PF LaVoy Allen Kevin Jones

    C Robin Lopez Omer Asik Dan Gadzuric

    The first thing I did constructing this team was go for defensive bigs. Lopez is a good defender who can play both the 4/5 and Asik/Gadzuric are nice defenders off the bench. Allen starts at the four, with Jones being the stretch four for spacing. Williams and Pietrus are both excellent defenders who I’d use to guard the elite wings in the league. All of my two’s are at least solid shooters to help spread the floor and Beal is my prized possesion. Bayless should offer some scoring, with veteran leadership from Udrih and a real nice prospect in Machado.

    I think after a year of ~20 wins I can get a top tier wing prospect (or overpay for a lower level star in FA) or a better scoring PF and then this team would at least be passable.

     

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