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Struggling early

Wich rookies look to be slower adjusting than you thought and why?


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MKG has been a huge

MKG has been a huge disappointment in the preseason. I thought with the the style that the Bobcats are playing he'd at least get some more transition buckets, slashes and early offense.

Also, I know he struggled mightily in summer league, but I thought T-Rob would've scrapped this SF crap that he was trying and play more like the energy, hustle, power player he was in college. Yet, he still wants to prove his supposed SF skills and was jacking up and bricking stupid jumpers from the perimeter. He's looking more like another Derrick Williams type, trying to prove he's something that he's not.

It's still just preseason though.

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I haven't had a chance to see the Kings during pre-season and was curious how Robinson has looked. I asked in a few threads relating to the Kings but didn't get any responses.

I loved his game last year in college and I considered him to be a safe pick. I figured his rebounding ability would transfer well to the NBA and he seems like a hard worker. That's disappointing that he has been so unimpressive since he is an easy guy to route for. That being said, the season hasn't even started yet so hopefully he can shake the poor start and get his game together.

I don't see all that many Kings games but will be keeping an eye on him. Thanks for the update.

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Robinson is a beast.

He posterized D Howard the other day.

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thats funny he's trying to

thats funny he's trying to prove his SF skills, i argued time and time again he has the skill set to be labeled a combo-forward and got plenty of hate

http://nbadraft.net/forum/potentially-or-yesno-question-t-rob-pfsf

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I think Dion Waiters will

I think Dion Waiters will have a tough time getting good looks in the NBA. He's going to be asked to score, and he will shoot, but I think he'll shoot awful percentages. I consider a rookie guard shooting over 42% pretty good, because there is an adjustment period, and many good NBA guards have started out shooting low percentages.

That being said, I think Waiters will be at 37% and 33% on FG and 3 PT. I don't think he has the right attitude to mesh with Bryon Scott and he can't defend. I think he'll have a lot of growing pains, and IMO, he was the worst value pick in the 2012 draft.

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I think his struggles were

I think his struggles were expected though. Judging by your post, I doubt you were thinking he'd enjoy more early success as well.

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True, I honestly thought he

True, I honestly thought he should have been take in the late lottery, and when he showed up overweight to summer league, I think that showed he wasn't taking things as seriously as he should have.

A bench spark in college is much different than in the pros, as usually the best bench scorers in the NBA were #1st option starters in college. I think his rookie year will be a lot like another former Cav, in Dejuan Wagner, he'll shoot a lot, score a decent amount, but be extremely ineffecient. I think his ceiling is his role in college, a guy to bring off the bench and shoot. He doesn't have the defensive capabilities, nor the efficiency to stick as an NBA starter.

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Quincy Miller

I don't know if Quincy Miller has even seen the floor yet and Marquise Teague hasn't done anything in the few mins he has gotten.

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I figured Kim English would

I figured Kim English would have gotten a lot more playing time due to the lack of shooters on Detroit's roster

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I like Austin Rivers and

I like Austin Rivers and think he should be good, but I would like to see him make a shot at some point.

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Austin

Austin Rivers has been struggling bdly IMO... Iv'e watched them a couple times and he hasn't fully adjusted. He shows flashes but he really looks uncomfortable. And yes as stated above, he's shooting terrible percentages. I've seen one game where he went like 1-8 and another I think 2-11.

Harrison Barnes finally had some success last night. He had a couple of highlights and was able to shoot 3-4 from 3pt range. I think that was good for him mentally. He'll def only improve after that game.

I think MKG is having a problem with fiding a way to score the ball. He has the IQ and the toughness. But he's not aginst kids anymore in college. In the NBA he cant bully people around at will like in college. He has to learn how to get open and make precise cuts and get the simple buckets until his jump shiot improves and gets better at creating his own shot. until then, it's going to be hard for him on the offensive end.

I dont particularly think T-Rob is struggling, I think he's competing at an acceptable level. He's had a couple high scoring games and a couple low scoring games. He has to figure out his identity completely tho. He's taking a couple 3ptrs a game. He has knocked a couple down and is playing D and rebouinding aggressively.

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Austin is struggling

He is a scorer who should be allowed to be a gunner. If need be bring him off the bench. He looks good penetrating and dishing. He is not a PG but can help there. I disagree with him starting at PG bad coaching move. I think he will be fine if he just attacks and gets fouled, attack and dish. Kid should be put in positions to ATTACK. That's what he needs to do instead of thinking so much.

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Austin has a big problem on

Austin has a big problem on his hands because he has a scoring mentality, doesn't really affect the game in any other way, but he is not a good scorer at the moment. He's really having trouble finishing with contact amongst the trees and he is not a good shooter. An argument can be made that he has been THE worst player in the preseason given the amount of minutes he got per game.

His struggles in the preseason aren't a surprise though.

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It's still just preseason

It's still just preseason though.

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Robinson will be okay when he

Robinson will be okay when he hits his stride, I feel. He's got the athletic ability and work ethic to find a role for himself, but I feel he just needs to adjust a little. Last season was his first, as a starter, and these pre-season struggles aren't that surprising. I think he'll be a 2nd half rookie, start a little slow and really turn it up in Jan.

http://www.businessinsider.com/thomas-robinson-dunk-over-dwight-howard-2...

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Top 10 picks Yes = Impressed

Top 10 picks

Yes = Impressed No = Unimpressed

Davis - Yes

MKG- No

Beal - Yes

Waiters - No

T-Rob - No

Lillard - YES

Barnes - Yes

Ross - No, but he hasnt played alot

Drummond - YES

Rivers - No

Others who impressed me

Sullinger, P. Jones, JAE CROWDER

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I still can't believe

I still can't believe Sullinger fell so far. The guy dominated two years of college ball. I mean seriously. So he has a bad back. Do you think you are drafting him to play 10 years from now? You get three years on the rookie contract, after that you have to pay them if they can play. Why not take a guy who is a lock at being a good basketball player and then hope for good health, instead of taking a guy who is healthy and then hope they become a good basketball player?

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T. Jones looked good for HOU

T. Jones looked good for HOU so far too. Right guys?

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yes, forgot about him

yes, forgot about him

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