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Great Footage of Former MVP Steve Nash teaching you the Basic fundementals of the game. Is Steve Nash a top 5 PG of all time?

https://youtu.be/5c9TU1IWo6Y

[circumlocution75Participant]

 Two MVP awards were Protest Votes by Old Fat White guys who were furious the Newspaper was going the way of the T-Rex

Shaq & Kobe deserved those 2 MVP’s

As far as Nash as a Top 5 All Time pG — I liked Steve Nash — he was Def a Great Offensive player

But he was the Worst Defender ever seen……. This List is Not in order, but I would take Every single one of these players B4 Nash

Magic Johnson, Jason Kidd, John Stockton, Kevin Johnson, Steph Curry, Dennis Johnson, Isaiah Thomas, Oscar Robertson, Maurice Cheeks, Rajon Rondo, Chris Paul, Norm Nixon, Tim Hardaway, Terry Porter, Allen Iverson, Rod Strickland, Russell Westbrook, Gary Payton, Tiny Archibald, Baron Davis, Penny Hardaway, Lenny Wilkens, Stephon "Starbury" Marbury, Mark Price, Steve Francis, Derrick Rose…….. There are others who we can debate…….. Nash was a Great player & had a Great career but if I was starting a Team, I would just about all of these guys over Nash

 

 

 

[mowestenParticipant]

 

 

There is no one anywhere that can convince me Rajon Rondo, Steve Francis, Stephon Marbury, Mark Price and Baron Davis were better players than Steve Nash. No way. 

None of those players changed the way the game was played. At least not in a positive way. 

IMO Steve Nash and the Phoenix Suns largely helped spur the way basketball is being played in the modern game: spread the floor, run the floor, run to the 3-point line — especially in transition — share the ball and find big men that can stretch the floor and drag an opposing big away from the basket and out of the paint. They played more pick and roll offense than the Warriors, but their offense was all about moving the ball and shooting the ball.

The Warriors have taken what the Suns did to another level, and done so with collectively much more talented players and a bigger emphasis at the defensive end. But it was Nash and the way the Suns played that helped start a revolution. 

 

[DanielcmccartyParticipant]

 If I was starting a team, I wouldn’t put Rondo or Steve Francis in front of Nash for sure. Not gonna debate with anybody else off that list, and there’s for sure players on there I would take in front of Nash. Nash was a great teammate, a deadly shooter, a master at the pick and roll and he’s a hall of famer.

[Dazzling Dunks and Basketball BloopersParticipant]

 Top 5 may be a stretch, when you take into account the fact that he was a subpar defender for most of his career. The 2 MVPs he won could up for question (although I thought 2005 at least was absolutely deserved).

 Top 10, I don’t think there is any question. He had a five to six year stretch of some of best pg play the league has ever seen and was still playing at an all-star level well into his late 30s. And he was maybe the most important player of his generation in terms of fundamentally shifting the way the game was played.

[ItsVictorOladipoParticipant]

 I definitely don’t see him in the top 5 and possibly not even in the top 10 (and I consider him one of my favourite players all time).

Magic, Oscar, Isiah Thomas, John Stockton and Walt Frazier were all clearly better. I’d rate Bob Cousy as better too, even if he played in an inferior era, he dominated his peers more than Nash did and also changed the game like few other players in history have. I’d also have Kidd, CP3 and Gary Payton higher because of their defensive ability as well as strong offensive games. Curry isn’t the passer Nash was, but he’s the greatest shooter of all time and while young has already won two MVP awards and a championship.

So right now I’d have him just outside the top 10, just barely over Nate Atchibald, Lenny Wilkens and Dennis Johnson. But in two or three years I assume that Westbrook will leapfrog him too.

 

 

 

[D7H7NParticipant]

 Two time MVP,  pretty much a 50-40-90 guy, revolutionized the pick and roll and his Suns team revolutionized how offense is played today in the NBA thanks to the use of analytics. What’s more amazing is that most of his success came from after he turned 30 years old.

[theballerwayParticipant]

was the orchestrator of that offense plantobe fair. It his trade mark. asare inflated statsand nodefense but thats not the point here.

Top 15 ,and subjectively top 10

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