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Soft Bigs

Besides BGriffin (who is a beast) all the other C/PF in the draft seem kind of weak is it me or is this draft lacking depth on true quality big men who can bang, Monroe is soft and cant rebound, the kid from GaTech is raw and waaaaay overrated, Aminu should stay another year, Jordan Hill has no competition in the Pac Ten, Hansbrough is limited, Clark cant shoot and thinks he is a small foward, Thabeet has no hands and is softer than putty (ask Blair), Mullens will be a bust and is even more overrated than the GaTech kid, and Patterson cant stay healthy


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Thabeet?

No Hands? Watch The Tape Little Billy. How Can A Guy With "No Hands" Catch Alley-Oops? Sure, He Has Problems Holding Onto The Ball After Catching It Sometimes, But Doesn't Every Big At Some Point In Their Career? For A Center Who Has Only Played Organized Baketball For A Handful Of Years, I'd Say His Hands Are The Least Of His Problems.

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To Clarify...

Thabeet Catches Pretty Much Every Pass Thrown To Him.

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thabeet

Thabeet is still young and when he gets drafted, an NBA team will work with him on it.
For only playing a few years of basketball, I would say Thabeet has some pretty good hands.
And I agree Billy, how does he catch all of those alley-oops, while still " has no hands "
I agree that he may be a little soft, but what Blair did to him just speaks of Blair's physical toughness.

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Thabeet is just not very strong and has a high center of gravity. thats the reason Blair,who's full of strength, was able to get low and power through him. He doesnt look to me to be a soft player, he just has to get stronger play lower. The rest of the bigs (Lawal,Mullin,Monroe,Hill,Griffin) are a mixed bag. Lawal is overated, he is not skilled at all,especially when he has to create for himself but he does have a good motor. Mullin is too raw to be any good in the NBA but he does have outstanding size and athleticism so he should be a decent player down the road if he works hard and gets some post moves. Monroe is a smooth player, but I must admit he is on the soft side. He plays a finesse game and would benefit from going to a NBA squad that like their forwards to face the basket and hit mid range jumpers, but he has to get stronger also. Hill is an athletic monster, and he is fairly new to the game but he has a whole lot of promise and he is a pretty intense and aggressive player out there, which is good to see in a player new to the game. And Griffin, needless to say there is nothing soft about the way he plays the game. He tries to dunk everything near the goal and has potential as a face up player, even though he is fairly raw here. He shows the ability to handle it a little bit better than most power forwards but he has to have awareness on defense to maximize his abilty there. So there is pretty solid talent in the top of this class in the front court, but all of the prospects have at least 1 serious concern (besides griffin) holding them back from reaching the next level.

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Thabeet

I feel Thabeet has room to improve in terms of gaining overall muscle. He has only played about 6 years of organize basketball, and I feel that he is just getting used to his body abilities. I still feel that his lack of scoring is not as big a deal as long as he continues to be a defensive monster. Everybody says that if you play dominate defensive like he does, he doesn't need to score because defensively he's probably taking about 10 to 15 points away from the other team. But yes he needs major work in the weight room.

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Hey future NBA GM's of

Hey future NBA GM's of course he catchs alley-oops the ball is right next to the hoop that doesnt display what type of hands a player has everytime he gest a touches the ball in the post he loses it and then he claps his hands as to say maybe next one. He gets a MAJORITY of his points from alley-oops and uncontested dunks he has no reliable hands to make a decent post move. You can go to any YMCA or Park and find somebody than can convert an alley-oop dunk. Please!!!! Thabeet's hands are a liability on offense thats why he has no post moves he is unsure of his ability to handle the ball (no hands) Alley-oop dunks dont predicate how well a baskeball players hands are. 3.5 turnovers a game for a center thats not the focal point of the offense is horrible Thabeet also routinely gets stripped by opposing teams guards. And no you dont learn to have "soft" or "great" hands for most great bigs is a natural thing. And the fact he has only been playing ball for a short period of time means nothing "POTENTIAL" can be a ugly word for a young player. He has been playing baskeball for 7 years since he was 15 does it matter if you start at 15,12 or 11 years old. At that level they play so much basketball year in year out he should have a decent pair of hands at the age of 22. As I said Thabeet will be exposed in the pros for having NO HANDS (he doesnt average more than 8pts a game for his career in the pros) and being soft as PUTTY!!!!!!!

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He should be catching alley

He should be catching alley oops dunks, he's 7ft 3in! He's right next to the rim, please.

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Thabeet...

He Catches Almost Every Pass Thrown To Him, Billy Boy. Catching Passes Is Not A Problem For Him Whatsoever. The Main Problem He Has Is Kendrick Perkins Syndrome. That's Where No Matter How Good Of Position You Have When You Catch The Ball, You Always Seem To Bring The Ball To The EXACT SPOT Where The Defense Can Get To It. It's Not "Bad Hands", Willy. It's And Extremely Low Offensive Basketball IQ.

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And...

What Games Are You Watching Where Thabeet Is Averaging 3.5 Turnovers Per Game? He Only Averages 1.7, And At Least One Of Those Turnovers Is From His 1 Offensive Foul Per Game. Nice Try Though... Some People Will Do Anything To Try And Make Their Point.

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Someone going to take Thabeet high regardless

Thabeet will be taken high no matter what I say or what anyone here has to say. There will always be a G.M. risking to take a 7'3 guy with defensive abilities. I not a fan of him, but G.M.s fall in love with bigs in the first round high. Look at all the busts Patrick O'Bryant Robert Swift, Johan Petro, and that Sene guy. nbadraft.net has him going 2nd alot of other draft sites rate him high as well. We can sit here and say how much he stinks, but in the end he will be a lottery pick and another back up center.

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Name One.

Name One OVER Seven Footer That Has Blocked The Same Number Of Shots As Thabeet, And Is Now A Benchwarmer... That's Right, There Are None. 3 Of Those Players You Just Named Were Either From HS Or Overseas Playing U-21 Competition. None Of Them Proved Themselves Against Any Real Competition.... Thabeet Has. He May Not Be A Hall-of-Famer, But He's DEFINITELY Better Than Each Of The Players You Just Named.

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Yikes I don't know

Thabeet is good defensively in your read my comment early on the blog, but I just feel that he won't block as many shots in the league that easily. With bigger beast than him he'll get pushed around. I hope Patrick O'Bryant isn't overseas or did you mean Robert Swift lol, but Johan Petro was a high pick as a big man and Sene was too. So what's your point. That oversea big guys stink they were centers, and they were busts I didn't think we should label where someone came from. Someone is a Thabeet lover.

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Ummmm.

No. What I Was Saying Is That Sene And Petro Were Drafted High Before Proving Anything. They Both Were Playing Against People Under 21 (U-21). Same Goes For Swift Except That He Came Directly Out Of High School. He Had Proven Nothing Other Than The Fact That He Could Dunk It On 6'5 Posts From His Neighboring Towns. O'Bryant, On The Other Had, Just Had A Poor Work Ethic And Never Really Ammounted To Anything. My Point Was That Thabeet Doesn't Suffer From Any Of The Numerous Flaws The 4 Guys You Named Had Suffered From.

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All Right You Win

I was just giving examples, and my opinion.

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not to be obnoxious

Not to be obnoxious or seem like a jerk A. Stock but is there a particular reason you capitalize every single word in your posts? Just wondering.

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Learn how to type A Stock

Quit capitalizing everything to try to get everyone to look at your idiotic Thabeet meet riding posts, just type normal like everyone else.

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Cry.

Are You Gonna' Cry If He Doesn't Stop?

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